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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:10 AM
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Just how delusional is Alan Colmes?
This delusional:

Fox News' Colmes Jeered by Other Liberals
Sun Oct 19, 8:44 PM ET

By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer

NEW YORK - Alan Colmes has been called an on-air punching bag, a runt, wishy-washy, a milquetoast and — this one must really hurt — a conservative at heart.

And these words are from people who usually agree with him.

<snip>

Colmes' low-key manner — in the face of Hannity's fire — is on display in his new book, "Red, White and Liberal." Unlike political authors who snarl and bite, Colmes is nice. He writes as much to reason with conservatives as to rally liberals.

<snip>

Colmes called Franken's book "very funny," but the typical liberal line.

"What am I supposed to do?" he asked. "Should I not work there because I'm a liberal and they want to paint Fox as a conservative? For them to make the argument that Fox is conservative, they have to diminish my role there."

more...
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:12 AM
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1. he needs to put food on his family
worse ways than being a well paid punching bag.
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:17 AM
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But he just destroys the liberal cause
by calling himself a liberal. He's a prostitute pure and simple.

"For them to make the argument that Fox is conservative, they have to diminish my role there."

And a moron...
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:17 AM
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2. What the hell?
"What am I supposed to do?" he asked. "Should I not work there because I'm a liberal and they want to paint Fox as a conservative? For them to make the argument that Fox is conservative, they have to diminish my role there."

Your role is totally diminished already!!! Stand up to that meathead occasionally!!!!!
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:19 AM
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3. "Diminish his role there" (at FOX)?
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 08:20 AM by JHB
I don't think his role could be any smaller without cleaning supplies being involved...

Free clue, Alan: your "role" there is to be an ineffective punching bag so that at the end of the program, the viewer is left with the impression that conservatives either have the answers or are at least inclined to do something, while liberals don't and aren't. Any other qualities you posess become moot and mute in the face of that.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:22 AM
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4. a tool, but slightly less delusional than Juan Williams
who has become a complete neocon--a wolf in sheep's clothing, like Matthews.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:22 AM
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5. Colmes calling himself a 'liberal'...
...doesn't make him one. He's a well-paid punching bag who pretends to be 'liberal' so Faux can claim to be 'fair and balanced'.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:33 AM
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6. The worst part is that Colme's is not delusional
He's not a liberal--he just plays one on TV. He knows what the casting directors at FAUX want, and as long as the pay checks keep getting wired, he's more than happy to supply it. Ailes wants his "libruls" to be cartoon versions of the liberal cliche: whiney, milquetoast, and ineffectual, little girleymen for the heroic hanities and Snow's to destroy. Juan and Alan are delighted to oblige.
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TKP Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:35 AM
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7. Alan Colmes
I disagree with the comments so far and have not found him to be a punching bag at all. I find Alan Colmes to be one who makes good and logical arguments. His radio program is also excellent. I look forward to reading his book.

>Unlike political authors who snarl and bite, Colmes is nice. He writes as much to reason with conservatives as to rally liberals.

I agree with his approach. You'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:44 AM
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9. Not that I make a habit of watching HANNITY and colmes
but you're tripping.

Hard.

Every time I have watched, colmes came across as an ineffectual wimp.

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TKP Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:52 AM
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12. Reply
Jeez, can't anyone say they disagree with someone at DU without having to try and belittle them?

Let me demonstrate how it's done.

CatWoman,

No, I'm not tripping. Hard.

It's how he approaches things. We all have our own quirks and mannerisms and we need to respect them, and Alan does things his own way. I much prefer it to the ranting, in-your-face style of Franken. That type of approach only makes us liberals look desperate to me, when we should be appraoching it in a logical and reasonable tone. If you see two people debating, and one is ranting and the other is calm, doesn't that leave an impression with you as to who has the upper hand? It does to me.

Like I said, you'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:59 AM
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16. But when the calm one doesn't effectively counter...
...the spin and outright lies of the ranter, then it's the ranter who controls the debate.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:12 AM
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30. I'm sorry -- I wasn't out to belittle you
but your comments just blew my mind.

My experience is the only flies Colmes catches are horseflies -- you know the ones that like to feed on horseshit?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:16 AM
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35. Hahahahahaha!
GOOD ONE! I like it! :7
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:46 AM
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10. Yeah. That's why Colmes is always...
'disappointed' at the behaviour of his Democratic party friends.

If you don't have the guts to call a liar a liar, you have no place in a tv debate.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:56 AM
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14. Perhaps, but you can catch even more flies with...
...steaming heaps of horsedump, which is the environment Colmes has chosen to have a "role" in.
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TKP Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:02 AM
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20. Reply
If Colmes goes onto Fox and becomes aggressive like Franken wants him to be, he'll play right into the hands of how conservatives view liberals as being anyhow. If he remains calm, then you'll call him a wimp. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:08 AM
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26. Colmes is already being viewed by conservatives
as one who does make strong enough arguments, someone who doesn't counter republican's "truth". Not wanting Bush impeached, not wanting to say anything bad about the war once it starting, getting in arguments with liberals. I can tell you right now, not one person has got their pantys in the twist at free republic over something Colmes said. The conservatives already know how Hannity is, aggressive, interrupter, insulting, etc and they still are angry over the formant at H&C. But I still admit Hannity wins the arguments because Colmes backs down even though Hannity repeats the same lie. Carville is aggressive and makes the right points and you want find him arguing with liberals as often Colmes does, but Faux won't hire him.
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TKP Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:22 AM
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39. Reply To Many
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 09:24 AM by TKP
This may come as a great shock to some of you, but wanting Bush impeached is a extreme left-wing viewpoint. Now, I've already noticed here at DU that most posters lean to the left of left-of-center and it is even noted by the administrators that this is the case, but there is no traction for impeachment by the American people as a whole. The whole thing would be viewed as the Democrats wanting to "get back at Republicans" for Clinton, and push us right back into the "sore loser" role that has defined our Party since the 2000 election. The sooner we as Democrats start facing facts when viewing how the general populace views matters the sooner we're going to connect with them. Saying Bush needs to be impeached isn't going to connect. Saying Bush planned and carried out 9/11 in order to have another Reichstag Fire isn't going to connect. Saying this country is fascist or a police state isn't going to connect. Being against measures by which the USA uses to protect itself from terrorists attacks isn't going to connect. We need to get back to the basics, which is "We are the Party of the working class people", And until we get back to that basic premise, every other word we say is falling on deaf ears, and we will continue to lose.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:27 AM
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45. however, Alan Colmes WILL connect, yes?


Alan Colmes is our ticket to the White House in 2004 - my god, if we could only have an invincible army of Alan Colmes Clones... WE COULD RULE THE WORLD!



Just think of the feeble, whiny, sniffling they could all do before being cut off by their respective Hannity clones for a commercial break!

Fuck that bestselling Al Franken crap... time to get serious, time to appeal to swing voters...

we need to get back to the basics, alright...

its time, America.



ITS TIME FOR ALAN COLMES. For the future.

a message brought to you by the Alan Colmes Society for the Advancement of Alan Colmes, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Alan Colmes FunKlub, Limited.



All Alan Colmes graphics courtesy of ConGlomCorp.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:31 AM
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50. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!

TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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TKP Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:37 AM
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56. thebigidea
Logic and reason WILL connect. If you want those other tried and tested methods that work so great, like marching in the streets carrying signs or black bloc tactics, then by all means go for it. I see how well it stopped us from going to war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:44 AM
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60. your winning strategies have, well - won me over!
Thanks to my newfound reverence for Alan Colmes I've learned to stow all manifestations of anger. Not only will I not march in the streets to protest warmongering, I will gladly march all suspicious looking brown people into convenient holding pens for further investigation...

and I will do this with a SMILE on my face, a smile brought on by the cool realization that Alan Colmes himself would approve of my tried-and-true "less confrontational" tactics.



Colmes Bless Us,
Every One.

"uhhhh.... ehhhh... that's all the time we have now."
Book of Colmes, Chapter V: Verses 12-14
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:46 AM
Response to Reply #60
63. rotflmao
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TKP Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #60
70. thebigidea and VermontDem2004
I sincerely hope your methods are tested and tried by the whole Democratic Party. I hope we nominate Kucinich or someone to the left of Noam Chomsky and that we use the style of speech, methods of debate, and behave in the manner you suggest to get our points across to the masses. I can't wait to see your reactions to what would happen.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:09 AM
Response to Reply #70
71. Anything other then being a pink-tutu liberal
will work.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #70
73. my method is an ALAN COLMES in every home
an ALAN COLMES for every man, woman, and child on this planet. A personalized Alan Colmes for all occasions, a finely crafted clone with a plethora of rib-tickling witticisms and astute political commentary to suit ANY occasion.

In short, I want a world that's... ALL ALAN, ALL THE TIME. I'm tired of just lying around my squalid apartment in stained Alan Colmes underoos all day - take my arm, dear friend... instead, let us stroll into a magical world of constant ALAN COLMES... a world where "Over to you, Sean" is the universally acknowledged greeting/salutation/empty smalltalk phrase of choice.

I want a world where I can tell my imaginary daughter - yes, Virginia... there is an Alan Colmes. Over to you, Sean.

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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #73
80. STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lmao
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #70
81. hey TKP - how DARE you impugn my faith in Colmes?
I think some of the regulars will vouch for my longtime, STAUNCH advocacy of the Colmes Method on this board over the past two years... ever since I stopped paying attention to Tony Robbins and started paying ravenous attention to Alan Colmes, I've noticed my sex life has improved by leaps and bounds. Well, in that I think about having sex with Alan Colmes constantly... which I guess is an improvement over the Tony Robbins fetishization.



move over, Tony Robbins! There's a new fleshpot in town!



Pardon me for a moment, I need to be alone with my perversions for a while.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #81
85. lmao
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #85
96. He can hardly hold the mike for godsake...
Megawimp.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #56
62. It is my right to protest
but even if we wimped out and to talk it over it sure as hell wouldn't work, talking it over didn't sign the 1964 civil rights act, protesting did. But about Afghanistan, I don't know of any 500,000 people organizing a protest against the war in Afghanistan.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #39
46. You spent an entire paragraph talking about impeachment
when I only used on sentance to talk about it, but that isn't my point. Often a liberal will come on there making his point but will be challenged by Colmes, often times Coulter will come on there spreading her propaganda for Hannity to praise it. Sorry to inform you but this country is becomming a facist and a police state and the measure being taken are wrong, you should read what the Patriot Act asks for which violates are civil liberties which are wrong. But Bush lied and manipulated evidence to push an illegal war which is wrong and I don't give a fuck how conservatives view us, they view us as anti-american and a plague trying to currpot their children.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:23 AM
Response to Reply #39
77. Sorry, I consider myself a moderate. A realist.

I believe that * should be removed for a number of offenses.

I know a couple of old time retired Korean War Era military Republicans, who over dinner, said that * should be shot at sunrise. I nearly fell out of my chair. I then told then that they should be careful of what they said, but they didn't give two hoots. They are fully aware of the shit that * is going to bring down on this country and are pissed off about it. So we so called LibRuls are not alone.

It's no shock to me that the Dem apologists would rather limit our political goals to being the party of the workers.

You can say many things about *, that on face value don't seem to connect, but having reviewed the facts (the ones that the press consistantly ignor, downplay or pervert to their own standard of BS) those that are bright enough to connect the dots can see what wrongs are being committed.

If Clinton had done any of the things that * had done on 9-11 (or for that matter any other rat-bastard thing that he has done before or since) then there would have been a litany of screaming parading Repukes calling for his impeachment. Then, after exhausting their investigation, they would investigate his dick instead.

I hope this connects. The repukes are out to kill the democratic party or so marginalize it forever that they can screw and screw and screw this country up and then use the Dems as the scapegoats for their crimes.

Think about that the next time Colmes folds in a debate.

The time for bi-partisan diplomacy is over.

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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #39
95. You're making my blood boil...
The first post was tolerable. The second in defense of Colmes was as well. But your assessment of whether Dems are far left or not or are connecting or will "lose" or not coupled with your affinity for Colmes beg the question of whose side you are on.

Seems to me that with your overriding support of the right's policies you may just be in the wrong forum. This is, after all, the Democratic Underground. But I am curious as to what principles draw you as you profess to the Democratic party.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #95
98. See post #108 in the Wellstone thread I posted
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 05:14 PM by VermontDem2004
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:13 AM
Response to Reply #20
31. bwhahahah
"If Colmes goes onto Fox and becomes aggressive like Franken wants him to be, he'll play right into the hands of how conservatives view liberals as being anyhow."

yes, wouldn't that be terrible. I'm sure Colmes would hate having a #1 Bestseller instead of books without an audience at all.

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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:15 AM
Response to Reply #31
34. lmao
I'm sure Colmes would hate having a #1 Bestseller instead of books without an audience at all.


If Faux actually got a liberal with cajones then maybe Hannity will quit his shoe.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:02 AM
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19. Please
I find Colmes arguring with Liberal guests 100% more then Hannity arguing with conservative guests. While Hannity makes us get pissed off by his facist comments, you will never find someone on freerepublic getting his panties in a twist over something Colmes said. Colmes is a pathetic on the air punching bag for conservatives, I say replace him with Carville but Fox is too scared to put a liberal on there with cajones.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:07 AM
Response to Reply #19
25. Yep
he actually does argue with the liberals. I've seen it myself. And it left me wondering, :wtf: ???
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:17 PM
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93. I remember him arguing with Al Gore
Colmes claiming that there is a pervasive librul bias in the media, arguing the fact with Gore, because after all, if there were a conservative bias, why would they let Colmes on the show..?

Al was like "i'm not going to make you bite the hand that feeds you"

:evilgrin:
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #7
29. i agree
Colmes is slammed way too much on this board, most of whom rarely watch 'H & C' or listen to his radio show.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:16 AM
Response to Reply #29
36. I watch H&C all the time
and often disappointed by the performance by Colmes, I never seen a show where Colmes didn't argue with a liberal or Hannity argue with a conservative. I could care less for his radio show, I don't even listen to the radio.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #29
52. you're right... VERY VERY VERY RIGHT
I for one have had quite enough of all this Alan Colmes bashing!



Its time we all embraced him to our respective bosom(s) - its time that we all rose as one and shouted: "Yes, Mister Rupert Murdoch - you are an evil bastard and a filthy spreader of propaganda... but you know what? That Alan Colmes ain't half bad. He makes up for all that O'Reilly/Hannity/Barnes/Kondracke/Hume/Snow stuff."

ALANMANIA STRIKES DU!



I get the t-shirt concessions. Mousepads and coffee mugs too. Get 'em while they're hot.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:35 AM
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54. ROTFLMAO
ALANMANIA STRIKES DU! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! rotflmao that is too funny.

get the t-shirt concessions. Mousepads and coffee mugs too. Get 'em while they're hot.

lmao.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:40 AM
Response to Reply #54
58. a joke, they said... satire... parody?
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 09:45 AM by thebigidea
nay, dear friends... I'm only a calm, reasonable liberal that believes in calm, reasonable discourse.

I believe in America.

I believe in Alan Colmes.

... and I believe in ME!

So sign up, resign up, and re-enlist today. The Colmes Kiddie Kamps are popping up faster than I can sell the franchises - send your children there... TODAY. We offer no recreation, no instruction, no whimsical summer activities. Only hours of quiet reverence, contemplation, and meditation while strapped to a chair before a vast Andy Warholian array of Colmes portraits...





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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #58
61. stop it!!!!!!! stop it!!!!
you're killing me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #61
75. I.... I... dunno what got into me
I think being up all night and then encountering (of all things!) praise for Alan Colmes on DU was more than my poor, reasonable, calm, swing-voter-conscious liberal brain could take.

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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #58
64. rotflmao
Colmes kiddie camps!!!! rotflmao!!! We offer no recreation, no instruction, no whimsical summer activities. Only hours of quiet reverence, contemplation, and meditation while strapped to a chair before a vast Andy Warholian array of Colmes portraits...

You are making me laugh so hard it hurts! :)
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Ishoutandscream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #52
86. Big Idea - go into comedy
I can't stop laughing. Sooooo outrageous!!!!!!!
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 11:03 AM
Response to Reply #86
87. heh. Yeah, I kinda did...
Sadly, my so-called "comedy" is about as commercial as say... an erotic thriller starring Alan Colmes and a long-dead Jessica Tandy.

and I've got the obscure films and Hollywood doors slammed in my face to prove it!
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:29 PM
Response to Reply #87
99. I'll have to add my 2 cents here and say you have the makings
of an excellent one man show - Alan Colmes Super-Liberal! And the material, as evidenced here, is endless.

I have never, NEVER seen colmes defeat han-job in any debate, regardless of the lies he uses. There have been do many easy smackdowns available to colmes without resorting to han-job's spew tactics, and colmes hasn't won ONE yet.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #99
100. ha! thanks...
I dunno if an evening of Colmes would be watchable, but maybe I'll do a short video piece for "the paranoia show" featuring Our Favorite Liberal...

using edited out-of-context colmes and narration? Or an actor doin' Colmes?

after these insane Colmes threads, I don't think I could stand the strain of studying him to get his voice and mannerisms down. This looks like a job for stock footage!
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:24 AM
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42. Totally agree with CatWoman that Colmes is wimp.
He is nothing but a paid punching bag. RW'er love to have him on the show.
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smaug Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:25 AM
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43. So, Rush/Coulter/Hannity/O'Reilly got there by using sugar?
No, these vermin got theirs by being nasty. Politics in the general sense is a nasty business, very unforgiving. By trying to be sensible and meek, Colmes tends to show the typical Rethuglican/FAUX viewer that being sensible is weak. Fashion now is style over substance -- witness the Schwartzengroper's victory in California. One of his Arnuldness' campaign spots was demanding "hand to hand combat" with his enemies: ex-Governor Davis was a decorated infantry officer in Viet Nam, who probably could have destroyed Anold's movie "toughness" in "for real" hand to hand combat. It is amazing that pseudo-macho plays more than does actually performing the fact in our country's service.

We have to counterattack viciously, and use facts in a way that ordinary people understand. Instead of using factual percentages in discussing tax rates, we need to raise taxes on those who's *total* income is above $360,000 per year (including investment income as well as work income). That element in the discussion on the Deserter in Thief's quest for more money to give to Halliburton and Bechtel played well in my area; normally anti-all-tax folks around here were in agreement that the over $360,000 crowd (of which there are extremely few here) had too much in tax cuts. This is a wedge issue we can use to drive our points in with -- can Hannity and O'Reilly argue to the low rent FAUX viewers that taxes on money over $360,000 is hurting them? Ha! Our median income in this county (western Arkansas) is $17,864. Hard to explain to a family on that income that lowering taxes on $360,000 people makes sense, and it's beginning to come home here.

:dem:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 11:54 AM
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89. I do agree
that his radio show is excellent, although it's on a bit late for me.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:41 AM
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8. Get some balls colmes...
stand up to that little Rush Limpjaw wanna-be Hannity...get into an argument...


Just once I would like to see him tell Hannity to shut the hell up and let a person who represents the left to actually state their case without the Limpjaw wanna-be cutting them off in mid-sentence...
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QuestioningStudent Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:50 AM
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11. Incorrect.
Colmes does not adopt an aggressive and offensive manner in the style of Hannity, no. He does, however, present much more logical, rational arguments in a style conducive to actually persuading someone of opposing political beliefs. Given a choice between listening to Hannity's self-righteousness and Colmes's far more pleasant arguments, I know who I'd prefer...

...Incidentally, since when does actually attempting to persuade one's ideological opponents instead of alienating them constitute being a "an on-air punching bag, a runt, wishy-washy, a milquetoast and — this one must really hurt — a conservative at heart?"

God forbid that the political left has a prominent spokesman who doesn't come off as annoying as Hannity or Rush.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #11
17. When they let the opponent get away with stating lies...
...and distortions as settled fact, as happens routinely on H&C.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:04 AM
Response to Reply #17
24. Yep I agree
so many times Hannity keeps ranting terrorism, evil, lies etc so many times I find Colmes agreeing with him. So many times I find Colmes allowing Hannity to repeat the same lies but when Colmes talks you hear Hannity in the background "Good grief" *sigh*, etc.
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QuestioningStudent Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:13 AM
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32. Sigh...
Hannity comes off as a complete ass. That is one of the MANY reasons why his arguments are generally ineffective when it comes to persuading people to his beliefs. Does Colmes agree with Hannity on some issues? Yes. Is this an automatic indictment on his character? Not unless the indicter ignores the issue, and focuses sheerly on the conservative character of Hannity. Does Colmes condemn terrorism? Yes. Does Colmes condemn personal attacks on ANY politician, whether Clinton OR Arnold? Yes. Does Colmes care about consistently applying well-stated liberal principles? As far as I can tell, yes.

The big complaint about Colmes that I've seen here is that he does not yell, shout, or act in a verbally or physically agressive manner towards Hannity. Rather, he acts like a rational individual. That is not, to my mind, a problem.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:22 AM
Response to Reply #32
40. I said etc
but on the issue of terrorism was the argument for the 87 billion, Hannity was trying to make the point that the 87 billion is NEEDED to fight terrorism evil or whatever and the liberal guest on his show kept being interrogated by Colmes basically saying "Well what would you do?" My problem with Colmes is he lets Hannity get away with repeated lies and I find him arguing with liberals 1,000x more then I find Hannity arguing with conservatives(which is never). Colmes once wouldn't talk bad about the war once it started because he felt it would hurt the troops morale(he was obviously duped by O'reilly's talking points) and said Bush shouldn't be impeached. I don't think he should be physically aggressive, I think he should stand more for liberals then conservatives.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #32
69. wrong! WRONG!
"The big complaint about Colmes that I've seen here is that he does not yell, shout, or act in a verbally or physically agressive manner towards Hannity."

NO. The big complaint is there just isn't enough ALAN COLMES for us TRUE ALAN COLMES FANS to enjoy. If you were a REAL Alan Colmes fan, and not some Colmesy-come-lately... you'd know this. You'd know that DU is a bastion of all things Colmesian, a repository of timeless wisdom with that peculiar Alan Colmesish aroma.

Some days I get on DU and ya know, I just SMELL the quizzical eyebrows coming off the screen at me. Then I start crying, weeping for the death of the spirit and the soul.

Then I pop in a special 8 hour EP mode tape I made, charmingly labeled the Colmes Cavalcade of Constant Cutting Conversation - and I'm all better.

Over to you, Sean.

Sniff. Sob. Cough. Choke.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #69
72. ok stop it
your too funny!!!! :)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:25 AM
Response to Reply #72
78. I've been laughing non stop for the past half hour
this shit is great!!!!!
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #78
82. Me too
the Colmes kiddie camp, lmao!!!!
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #82
91. ahhhh, this has been the most fun I've had on DU for weeks
and I owe it all to ALAN COLMES!

Here's to you, Alan!
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QuestioningStudent Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:09 AM
Response to Reply #17
27. Unfortunately...
The show is not set up so as to present an actual debate format. Colmes makes do with what he gets, and does as decent a job of it as I think anyone else would do.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #27
51. Carville
Press, Begala, me, any DUer, Malloy, Franken, Ivins, and 300 others could do a much better job then Colmes. Colmes does get time to talk and interview guests which he does a bad job of doing it making the conservative look right.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #11
79. In the words of FAUX News
SHUT UP!

SHUT UP!

SHUT UP!



well if I could just counter that by saying how nicely dressed you are today. Is that a new suit? Oh, by the way, I think you make an excellent point with....


SHUT UP!

SHUT UP!

SHUT UP!

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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:54 AM
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13. It's hard to say which one (Hannity or colmes) made me stop watching
the stupid show. Hannity is such an asshole that it's hard to watch him. But colmes is such a, ..., a..., a..., a shit, that he makes me rant and rave at the tv screen.

I don't know which one of them I can't stand the most. It's gotta be colmes for pretending to be liberal. He's such a disgrace. He's scared of his own shadow. And most of the time you can tell that he thinks he's doing liberalism a favor by trying to appear "rational".

It doesn't help that he looks like he gets his hair permed.
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TKP Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:57 AM
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15. just wondering
>And most of the time you can tell that he thinks he's doing liberalism a favor by trying to appear "rational".

Are you saying we would do better if we were to appear "irrational"?
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:04 AM
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22. It would be better if he appeared "effective"
n/t
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:10 AM
Response to Reply #15
28. not what he's saying at all...
but come to think of it - yeah, probably. A stark raving madman would do better in a debate vs. Hannity than Colmes currently does. A piece of plywood could perform better, for that matter.

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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:34 AM
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53. lmao
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:30 AM
Response to Reply #15
47. No, what I'm saying is he should stop
SUCKING UP to the god damn right wing in an effort to prove he's not wacky like those damned liberals.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:01 AM
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18. He does the Democratic party
more harm than good by being Hannity's republican lite side kick. If Roger Ailes REALLY wanted to be "Fair and Balanced" he would fire Colmes and hire Al Franken. THAT will never happen because then the Liberals may have a REAL voice on FAUX news.

I haven't watched that show in years and don't plan to watch it...EVER. Colmes use to tick me off so bad by being so damned passive!:puke:
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:03 AM
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21. They need a guy who will not stand up and deck Hannity
A real liberal would give Hannity the well deserved smack down he deserves.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:04 AM
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23. My problem is that I don’t believe he is on our side.
On key issues he’ll back down and side with Hannity. It seems like he is subornate and is there to introduce the weakest point of the liberal argument so Hannity can strike it down and look clever.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:14 AM
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33. I "think" I heard
that Colmes is married to some semi important Repuke. Am I wrong? I think I read or heard that somewhere. He may get the RW shit at home too.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #33
59. Colmes is married
to Monica Crowley's sister. I've never seen her and don't know her political persuasion, but I can guess.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:22 AM
Response to Reply #59
76. Thanks!
I knew there was a repuke connection in there somewhere. I, of course, am only assuming his wife is a repuke because her sister spews FAUX news rhetoric constantly.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:19 AM
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37. I could never understand why progressives/liberals even appear
on the show. Just let Fox vomit their RW crap; it would then be seen as pure propaganda.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #37
38. I AGREE!
Let them have all RW guest and preach to the choir....see how long they last!
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TKP Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:31 AM
Response to Reply #38
48. Ratings
Ratings, my good men and women. Ratings. Fox is blowing the others out of the water.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:37 AM
Response to Reply #48
55. So?
Faux is a pathetic news network no matter how many viewers they get. Many Faux viewers have no idea what the facts are.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:40 AM
Response to Reply #48
57. HMMMMMMMMMM
You sure are smitten with all things "FOX"...............
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:52 AM
Response to Reply #48
65. ratings are the name of the game, and ALAN COLMES DELIVERS
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 09:57 AM by thebigidea
FOX will be spinning off their hot ALAN COLMES franchise with a slew of new shows guarenteed to get the Colmes-loving blood flowing... lets take a look at this exciting lineup:

THE COLMES FACTOR - 8PM - Alan Colmes wiggles his eyebrows for 30 solid minutes (minus commercials for other Colmes projects) of pure inaction, guarenteed to get Democrats elected.

COLMES & COLMES - 8:30PM - Hit FOX(TM) host Alan Colmes co-hosts a hard-hitting news program with hit FOX(TM) host Alan Colmes... watch the sparks fly as Alan Colmes meets Alan Colmes! TV GUIDE says: "Its the Colmesiest!"

COLMES IN CHARGE - 3PM - wacky Alan Colmes is up to his usual no-good tricks in this zany sitcom about a telegenic TV host and his adopted gang of questionably cared-for children... you'll roar with delight as Alan gets in one kooky mixup after another, you'll cry when Colmes can't whine his away out of doing hard time for his crimes against humanity.

COLMES & FRIENDS - 5:AM - Alan Colmes alone in a dimly lit room, moaning about his fate while serving up hot breakfast chat with a dazzling array of guests that don't show up - not that you'll mind, you'll be too busy masturbating to the sheer "Colmesian coup of it all" as Tom Shales put it.

in short:


Think about it, won't you?
Thank you.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #65
67. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
You are on a roll!!!

THE COLMES FACTOR - 8PM - Alan Colmes wiggles his eyebrows for 30 solid minutes (minus commercials for other Colmes projects) of pure inaction, guarenteed to get Democrats elected.

COLMES & COLMES - 8:30PM - Hit FOX(TM) host Alan Colmes co-hosts a hard-hitting news program with hit FOX(TM) host Alan Colmes... watch the sparks fly as Alan Colmes meets Alan Colmes! TV GUIDE says: "Its the Colmesiest!"

COLMES & FRIENDS - 5:AM - Alan Colmes alone in a dimly lit room, moaning about his fate while serving up hot breakfast chat with a dazzling array of guests that don't show up - not that you'll mind, you'll be too busy masturbating to the sheer "Colmesian coup of it all" as Tom Shales put it.

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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:46 AM
Response to Reply #65
83. Can't breath....laughing too hard....

nearly inhaled my coffee on that.

Damn! You should be in network programming!
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #83
88. ooooo, I'd give my Ollie North action figures for a network job
think of the damage that could be caused with a midnight slot on some sleepy cable outlet!

Sadly, they have a word for "talent" like mine: un-em-fucking-ployable.
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:53 AM
Response to Reply #48
66. Yeah, but then, again....
....Milli Vanilli won artist of the year in the early '90's Grammy Awards.

Just because it's popular doesn't make if right, or ethical, or smart, or worthy of reverence. Just makes it popular.

Case and point - Fear Factor. Because they get high ratings by challenging people to eat a pig's anus, does that make pig's anus a delicacy?
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #48
94. A common Faux News misconception
"Ratings, my good men and women. Ratings. Fox is blowing the others out of the water."

CABLE NEWS ratings only.

All three network news shows (CBS, ABC and NBC) are blowing Faux News out of the water in the ratings game.

Faux News doesn't even rate a fart in the wind compared to network news.
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Warren Stuart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:22 AM
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41. In Franken's book he describes confronting Colmes
When Franken asked him why he didn't respond to obvious lies, Colmes replied that "That's not the format of the show".

In other words the format is a stacked deck, in which the conservatives come out like the Harlem Globetrotters and the Liberals come out like the Washington Generals (Franken's analogy).

It's not fair nor balanced, if Colmes really was a liberal he would know that. Liberals fight for what they believe in, Colmes refuses to fight the good fight. He believes in his paycheck.

What's the word for someone whose morals and integrity are for sale?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:27 AM
Response to Reply #41
44. W-H-O-R-E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:48 AM
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84. NeoCon

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:31 AM
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49. I read that Hannity selected Colmes
The way I heard it, they tried out a different Liberal co-host who wiped the floor with Hannity. So, Hannity selected Colmes because of his demeanor and positions. So, if isn't Colkmes - it'll be someone else like him.

I did catch a week's review show on Fox yesterday. They showed Colmes at his most forceful with Ollie North. I think Colmes is beginning to have enough of these guys. And the other night, I listened to his radio program and he took on a raving over the top conservative and actually did very well at shutting down the rhetoric.

I have to wonder if he shut them down just because he caught them off guard. It would be nice if he kept it up and evolved. With all the evidence coming out about Iraq and then the leak and other damnable things the administration is doing, no one could say that Colmes didn't give them the benefit of the doubt. Mostly, he drives me nuts. But he does have a quick mind when he decides to use it. It was in evidence this week for sure.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:58 AM
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68. I'm wary of self-described "liberals" sometimes.
People who call themselves "liberals" seem to me to be generally less assertive ideologically than people who identify as progressives. Just a personal observation--no offense to those who prefer "liberal." Colmes is so terribly ill-suited to do political combat with his opponent.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:13 AM
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74. Alan Colmes is indeed Ann Coulter
Colmes is a straight man, no more, no less.

No one is the world is greater than Alan Colmes, but on the same hand no one is any less.
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #74
92. Stopped
watching the show. Who neeeds the heartburn? But I would say WWJD? He called King Herod a fox. The man stood up, spoke up to the religious leaders who were nothing but bullies who looked down on the common people, in fact calling them Amherets meaning dirt people or good for nothings. He made a rope drove the money changers out of the temple(money changers were cheating the people). So I say there is a time to keep quiet and there is a time to SPEAK up and on that show H&C it is the time for Colmes to speak up. I know n this country money has taken over all common sense but there are still some people who want to live with and die with dignity and Colmes in my opinion does not care to be one of them.
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 12:18 PM
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90. In Al Franken's "Lies..." book
One of the things that made me laugh more than anything was the reduced font size everytime he wrote alan colmes in all lower case. That about sums it up. The reason why alan is there is because Fox doesn't have a vested interest in putting someone like Carville, for example, on their network because he'd wipe the floor with the right-wingers that appear on the show. Fox is a carnival, a propaganda machine, and colmes is just a whiny little cog in the wheel of their propaganda machine. He's completely ineffective to say the least.
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:12 PM
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97. I'm sick of having our party personified by Lieberman and Colmes
Colmes may be a nice guy, but I'd rather that he bite the hand that feeds him, instead of taking it up the ass from Hannity.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:59 PM
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101. Colmes' paycheck is cut by Faux. What more is there to say?
He's on the RW payroll. And that's why he's the piece-of-shit punching bag that he is.

It's been said that "we all have our price"; evidently Colmes' has been met.
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