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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 03:49 PM
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Bush: I Was “Just Saying He’s(DeLay) Presumed Innocent”
Bush: I Was “Just Saying He’s Presumed Innocent”
Wednesday on Fox News, President Bush said that he believed Tom DeLay was innocent of money laundering:

HUME: Do you believe he is innocent?

BUSH: Delay? Yes, I do.

The comment caused considerable controversy because the White House has been deflecting comments about the CIA leak for months, claiming it’s their policy not to comment on ongoing criminal investigations.

ThinkProgess has obtained an advanced transcript of Bush’s upcoming interview on the NewsHour with Jim Lehrer. In it, Bush claims he only meant that DeLay was presumed innocent until proven guilty:

MR. LEHRER: You don’t know. Okay. The–you mentioned Tom Delay. Why did you say he was innocent?

PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, I was—

MR. LEHRER: This is an interview with Brit Hume.

PRESIDENT BUSH: I did and–but the point I was making was innocent till, until otherwise proven, and I was also asked did I hope he would come back to Congress. The answer was yes.

MR. LEHRER: But you–I looked very carefully at that transcript. I mean, you essentially said he was innocent. I mean, you weren’t–that wasn’t–you weren’t really saying that then? You were just saying he’s presumed innocent?

PRESIDENT BUSH: I–that’s exactly what I was saying.

Bush didn’t make a mistake by violating White House policy. We just misinterpreted what he was saying. Got it?

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/16/presumed-innocent/
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 03:51 PM
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1. The excuses...
just get more and more lame, don't they?
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 03:53 PM
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2. Depends on the Meaning of "Is"
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 03:56 PM
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6. except in this case it's spelled 'Bs' n/t
dp
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 03:54 PM
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3. Think how Hot Tub feels today, Smirky, now that
you have qualified your statement. I bet he was all puffed up yesterday, cause the preznut said he was innocent.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 03:54 PM
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4. Weak excuse
Not even a mother would buy that.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 03:54 PM
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5. From the same Lehrer interview:
Bush said in an interview that "we do not discuss ongoing intelligence operations to protect the country. And the reason why is that there's an enemy that lurks, that would like to know exactly what we're trying to do to stop them.

"I will make this point," Bush said. "That whatever I do to protect the American people — and I have an obligation to do so — that we will uphold the law, and decisions made are made understanding we have an obligation to protect the civil liberties of the American people."

The president spoke in an interview to be aired Friday evening on "The Newshour with Jim Lehrer."

Bush played down the importance of the eavesdropping story. "It's not the main story of the day," Bush told Lehrer. "The main story of the day is the Iraqi elections" for parliament which took place on Thursday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bush_nsa&printer=1
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 04:05 PM
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14. That 's an amazing statement by bu$h. He decides what the main story is.
Once again, that piece of paper says otherwise: Freedom of the press.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 03:57 PM
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7. part of me wants . . .
. . . the dickweed to just shut the hell up.

But, the silly ass is hanging himself every time he opens that cokejaw. So, bring it on sucka . . .

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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 03:59 PM
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9. He really is digging himself a deep one, isn't he?
Lots of little things, like saying that Rummy is doing a "heckuva job". Plus the usual big things, like constant lying.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 04:03 PM
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12. I have a waking dream . . .
. . .that Alcatraz is reopened for all those jerks, and we get to visit them in that cold, damp prison, and tell them, "Heckuva job on those license plates boyz! Heckuva job!"
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 03:59 PM
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8. Not like mainstream media cares
Norah O'Donnell and Kyra Philips are always lined up to tongue-wash Bush's ass.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 04:00 PM
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10. I bet ol' Bushey is wishing his B. Williams interview was today
and Lehrer already happened.


This interview may be HUGH!!1!!
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 04:02 PM
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11. Ooooh, yeah, * - ole Tom is just about as innocent as you are.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 04:04 PM
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13. Ahhhhhhh excuse me for bringing this up but
isn't this the same GW while governor of Texas allowed a man be executed after DNA proved the guy wasn't guilty of the crime? I guess innocent until proven guilty only applies to those Jr approves of and the rest don't matter. So much for Bush's oath to uphold the constitution.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 04:06 PM
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15. that's exactly what Harold Ford said, actually
looks like Frist or his successor will hang on quite handily to that seat...
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 04:11 PM
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16. flip-flop
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shantipriya Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 04:16 PM
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17. Excuses!
Does he not speak English? Isn't English his mother tongue? Oh I forgot--he is a moron!!!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 05:05 PM
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18. Why didn't Lehrer press the issue?
Just by reading the transcript you can't tell if he felt he had made his point and caught * in a lie or if he wussed out like brian williams and let * off the hook
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 06:09 PM
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19. What a curious turn of phrase!
". . . the point I was making was innocent till, until otherwise proven . . ."

Does there exist in this country any person over the age of five who doesn't know the concept as it is usually phrased - "innocent until proven guilty?" It's almost a reflex action to say it this traditional way.

Where does this "innocent until otherwise proven" come from. Is Bush so far gone he can't even say the word "guilty?"

Or, is there perhaps a pause in the interview that doesn't appear in the transcript, where someone screams in the earpiece, "DON'T SAY 'GUILTY!!'"
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