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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:19 PM
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Martin Garbus: An Incredible Day in America
Today, for two separate reasons, has been an incredible day in America. First, the United States has legitimized torture and secondly, the President has admitted to an impeachable offense.

First, the media has been totally misled on the alleged Bush-McCain agreement on torture. McCain capitulated. It is not a defeat for Bush. It is a win for Cheney.

Torture is not banned or in any way impeded.

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Secondly, the President in authorizing surveillance without seeking a court order has committed a crime. The Federal Communications Act criminalizes surveillance without a warrant. It is an impeachable offense.

Link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/martin-garbus/an-incredible-day-in-amer_b_12392.html


On Thursday, December 14, 2005, the Washington Post (actually) reported the following regarding addition of classified torture techniques to the US Army Field Manual:

It's reported that the Army is forwarding a classified addendum to the new Army Field Manual on interrogation operations. According to these reports, the 10-page addendum provides dozens of examples of what procedures may and may not be used by interrogators, and it informs commanders on the circumstances for their employment.

This move amounts to an attempt by the Army to use the back door to establish secret interrogation techniques at the same time the new Field Manual on interrogation operations is coming out (later this month). It sends exactly the wrong message to the world and, more important, fosters the same kind of confusion and contradictory policies that have contributed to the abuse of detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay.

More at the link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/14/AR2005121402193.html


Sterling Professor of Law and Politics at Yale University, Bruce Ackerman, further informs us of the hypocrisy of what Bush, Cheney, McCain and Grahman have concocted to enable torture and denial of habeas corpus to work seamlessly, and, evidently are succeeding in snookering the media:

Congress will soon consider two amendments that threaten a descent into hypocrisy. Both have been tacked onto the defense authorization bill. A provision by Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.) is an unconditional bar on torture - a prospect President Bush finds so damaging he is threatening to veto the entire bill.

But he won't have to, thanks to a recent amendment by Sen. Lindsay Graham (R., S.C.). This one bars Guantánamo detainees from going to federal court to enforce the rights that McCain would declare sacrosanct.

A shabby compromise is in the making. Bush removes his veto threat - as long as Graham's amendment remains in the bill - to transform McCain's principles into a hypocritical gesture: Listen up, world, we are against torture at Guantánamo - as long as nobody can complain about it.

To deflect critics, Graham has created an exception to allow Guantánamo inmates their day in court once they are finally convicted of a crime by a military tribunal. But this exception creates more perverse incentives. If a detainee has been victimized, the best way to cover it up is to hold him indefinitely as an "enemy combatant" and never send him before a military tribunal. That way, he will never get access to a federal court. At present, only nine of the 500 Guantánamo detainees have been charged with crimes, and none have yet been convicted. How long will it take for Americans to learn what is really going on inside?

More at the link:

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/editorial/13401262.htm


And, while the hypocrites are creating even more ways for America to behave as a rogue imperialist, Bush creates an impeachable offense and, of course, refuses to answer questions.

As Hilzoy notes:

... Bush signed an order allowing the NSA to spy on US citizens without a warrant. This is against the law. I have put references to the relevant statute below the fold; the brief version is: the law forbids warrantless surveillance of US citizens, and it provides procedures to be followed in emergencies that do not leave enough time for federal agents to get a warrant. If the NY Times report is correct, the government did not follow these procedures. It therefore acted illegally.

Bush's order is arguably unconstitutional as well: it seems to violate the fourth amendment, and it certainly violates the requirement (Article II, sec. 3) that the President "shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed."

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... this is something that no American should tolerate. We claim to have a government of laws, not of men. That claim means nothing if we are not prepared to act when a President (or anyone else) places himself above the law. If the New York Times report is true, then Bush should be impeached.

The Law:

... the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Its Section 1809a makes it a criminal offense to "engage in electronic surveillance under color of law except as authorized by statute."

FISA does authorize surveillance without a warrant, but not on US citizens (with the possible exception of citizens speaking from property openly owned by a foreign power; e.g., an embassy.)

FISA also says that the Attorney General can authorize emergency surveillance without a warrant when there is no time to obtain one. But it requires that the Attorney General notify the judge of that authorization immediately, and that he (and yes, the law does say 'he') apply for a warrant "as soon as practicable, but not more than 72 hours after the Attorney General authorizes such surveillance."

FISA link: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sup_01_50_10_36.html


http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_12/007789.php


Seems I have lots of material for more "Dear Gov. Dean --" letters ...


Peace.



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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:37 PM
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1. Impeachment, for the sake of the nation. n/t
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 08:43 PM
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2. I'm overwhelmed with the negative information, but
enouraged that they failed with the Patriot Act..
Bama
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 09:01 PM
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3. But he has done so many impeachable things...
when do we get to get around to doing it?

Thanks, 'life. Good post.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 09:56 PM
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4. A question:
"Bush's order is arguably unconstitutional as well: it seems to violate the fourth amendment"

"Arguably"? "Seems"? Isn't this the very reason that Able Danger was shut down???

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 09:59 PM
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5. Yes. And, I see no reason for the qualifiers "arguably" and "seems" ...
... but, I'm not a lawyer ;)

Bush is so far beyond the law now that nothing will rescue him but a Nation that has decided to be just as lawless and ruthless as he and the neoconsters have demonstrated, beyond any reasonable doubt, they are.


Peace.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 10:01 PM
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6. Wow.
Rec'd, with gratitude.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 02:19 AM
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12. "Dear Gov. Dean -- On Concealing Crimes …"
Here's the link to the next letter to Gov. Dean:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5608382&mesg_id=5615989

Thank you for your support!


Peace.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 10:25 PM
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7. kick...
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 10:51 PM
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8. re george = I don't think he has any idea that he exceeded his power.
I believe he is only concerned about a few basics that have everything to do with body and ego and the only elevated concern is about his legacy.

I believe they tell him just enough to get him through his fund raising speeches.

He propbably has no idea of the trouble he is in. They use Gonzales and Olson and Ashcroft and a huge team to concoct interpretations to justify everything they want to do in a kingdom setting with a playboy king, barons, knights, and serfs. As a deficient king, he can only be told certain things.

They are creating an unreal world in the former United States of America with rules made in the secret meeting rooms behind the throne.

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 02:34 AM
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13. "He probably has no idea of the trouble he is in." Interesting perspective
Perhaps his pathological capacity for denial may be so vast and efficient that he is incapable of recognizing himself as the mega-outlaw that he is.

On the other hand, I've often thought that Bush knows exactly how big an outlaw he is and he enjoys it and will continue pushing it until he is stopped. And, I think his megalomania is of such a scale that he considers himself unstoppable.

In any event, he is a dangerous killer with a major arsenal.


Peace.

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SupplyConcerns Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 07:35 PM
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17. Bush's perspective
I feel that Bush believes he plays by different rules, and in this sense he doesn't think of himself as in trouble. Maybe his famous swagger has something to do with him knowing that elections will be stolen on his behalf, and that he will always be protected by a cabal of elites. Hell, maybe he's right, and not particularly delusional to think of himself as a king. Of course, kings often get overthrown in one way or another.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 11:05 PM
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9. Sometimes I wonder if I am living in America
Doesn't this administration have any conscience anymore?
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 11:39 PM
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10. Anymore? They never did n/t
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 11:43 PM
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11. wow - kickapalooza
:kick:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 03:56 PM
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14. ReddHedd: "How does one sit down to write about the deliberate ...
... circumvention of law in a nation of laws by the Chief Executive? Especially, when the actions taken by that executive ignore the lessons that were hard learned and codified into law for the express purpose of preventing the very actions taken?

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (or FISA) provides the framework for how surveillance by covert agencies may or may not be done. The Bush Administration has put forth the argument that FISA had to be circumvented due to immediate need for surveillance of subjects in the aftermath of 9/11 due to urgent national security concerns. But this is a lie.

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Congressional leaders of both parties have called for hearings on the subject.

They would do well to remember that, in a nation of laws, neither the President nor members of Congress are above the rule of law. And that the nation is watching to see if anyone will be held to account for the machinations and lies of King George. If the Congress does not hold this Administration to account, then the public will do so in the 2006 elections. Period.

Much more at the link:

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005_12_01_firedoglake_archive.html#113484213149263316


And, now we have the criminal-in-chief proudly describing his violation of the law --

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/17/politics/17text-bush.html

Mirandize and book him ....


Peace.

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 04:22 PM
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15. "The moment the President has the power to prosecute a suspected enemy,
... that is the moment that the United States of America becomes a dictatorship because -- ask any lawyer -- all that separates a democracy from a dictatorship is process of law standing between rulers and citizens.

When a President can prosecute a citizen simply by writing their name on a piece of paper, or whispering to the police -- when the President has the power to make a citizen a criminal by naming him or her a criminal -- that is the mark of a dictatorship. And that is exactly what the Yoo memo claims.

You have asked for our opinion as to the scope of the President's authority to take military action in response to the terrorist attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001. We conclude that the President has broad constitutional power to use military force. Congress has acknowledged this inherent executive power in both the War Powers Resolution, Pub. L. No. 93-148, 87 Stat. 555 (1973), codified at 50 U.S.C. §§ 1541-1548 (the "WPR"), and in the Joint Resolution passed by Congress on September 14, 2001, Pub. L. No. 107-40, 115 Stat. 224 (2001). Further, the President has the constitutional power not only to retaliate against any person, organization, or State suspected of involvement in terrorist attacks on the United States, but also against foreign States suspected of harboring or supporting such organizations. Finally, the President may deploy military force preemptively against terrorist organizations or the States that harbor or support them, whether or not they can be linked to the specific terrorist incidents of September 11.

Complete memo:

http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/warpowers925.htm


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John Yoo's memo argues that because there is terrorism in the world, the President of the United States can do whatever he wants, to anyone, at any time, without justification or warning -- and it is all legal.

Link:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/12/17/83253/190


Good to see folk are noticing how close we are to a dictatorship ... perhaps, tomorrow night, especially after his performance today, Bush is simply going to tell the Nation that until further notice he is King.


Peace.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 04:58 PM
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16. "Today, what Bush said is he went around the law, which is a violation of
... the law — which is illegal."

Susan Low Bloch, a professor of constitutional law at Georgetown University Law Center, said the president needs authorization from Congress for this kind of activity — or risk adverse rulings from the Supreme Court has it has with other post-Sept. 11 changes.

"He's taking a hugely expansive interpretation of the Constitution and the president's powers under the Constitution," she said.

That view was echoed by congressional Democrats.

"I tell you, he's President George Bush, not King George Bush. This is not the system of government we have and that we fought for," Sen. Russell Feingold, D-Wis., told The Associated Press.

Added Sen. Patrick Leahy (news, bio, voting record), D-Vt.: "The Bush administration seems to believe it is above the law."

Republican Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record) of Pennsylvania, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, on Friday said the NSA program was inappropriate and he promised hearings soon.

Link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051217/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush;_ylt=ApmZTf_ZJJLMY42skbsHjeas0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--


Just so we're all on the 'same page' -- the guy has confessed to crimes. Mirandize and book him ...


Peace.


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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 07:48 PM
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18. all legal under the new laws... i.e. PATRIOT ACT + Secret Laws
if bush wasn't losing the Grand Theft Oil War in Iraq would anyone in the elite even notice their crimes?

hopefully fitz can knock down rove & cheney and this recent 'news' can take care of the chimp :bounce:

peace
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