"Pray the Gay Away!"...'ex-gay' minister talks about pee-pees and Barbies

...oh, and CA$$$$H.


"Ex-gay" Venice and wife explain it all for you.

...."At age five or six, a boy will tell himself, 'My pee-pee is not like her pee-pee, and my pee-pee is like Daddy's pee-pee, so I must be like Daddy," Venice explains. "At this time boys start learning from Dad what it means to be a man, how to be masculine and do boy things like play in the dirt, roughhouse and catch frogs, et cetera.

"For girls it's the opposite," Venice continues. "They're filling their bowl with femininity and things that are soft and pink and pretty and pajama parties and hopscotch and jump rope and Barbies and tea parties."

At each meeting, Venice asks his clients what they've done to "fill their bowl." For a man, that might be weight-lifting, fishing or catching a Cardinals game with a male friend (provided he's heterosexual).

The goal, adds Venice, is for his clients to participate in activities with heterosexual males that will reaffirm their masculinity. He calls it "buddy time," the type of child's play most people enjoyed as kids....During each visit, Venice asks for a donation to the ministry based on 1/1,000th of the client's income. A client earning $30,000 per year, for example, pays $30 per session. Venice accepts all major credit cards.


http://www.rftstl.com/Issues/2005-12-14/news/feature.html

I lift weights and am still gay. I just get hit on more often now.

Evidently I wasn't going with the right kind of "buddies"? What an idiot this dude is.

enough to pay it...

Geez, these people are nothing but waste.

who is ... um ... sexually fulfilled?

just askin

Music, philosophy, child rearing, and such recreations as scuba diving and sailing. Not ONE weightlifting session or Cards game.


Damn! I'm gay!

...and I always thought I was straight. It's a good thing we have people like this to stereotype our lives and "tell" us what we are.

:sarcasm:

Uh oh. I spent the weekend shopping at the local antiques fair. And now I am fretting over the color that we are going to paint the bathroom walls, blue or purple? Good thing I put that starter into my 41 year old truck to make up for all that antiquing. I have meet some ex-gays in my day. One is divorced with 3 kids, sad for the kids. He's a really nice guy but jeez who does he think he was fooling? I know one ex-gay, cuban catholic hairdresser, no really, who is now a Jehovah's witness and he is still gay but celibate, at least according to him. Oh, and he was married and has a daughter. I guess it takes all kinds.

I've met a lot of straight people and a lot of gay people. Never met an "ex-gay" person.

Every instance I've seen of an "ex-gay" person seems to consist of somebody who was generally unhappy with their life, happened to also be gay, found god, and became "ex-gay". Hey, maybe they really WEREN'T gay...how am I to know? Their vehement need to attack homosexuality after their "enlightenment" is suspect in my opinion, however.

This PFLAGer (and retired social worker) believes that we need to expose the 'ex-gay' movement for the destructive, unconscionable fraud that it is.

http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/index.html

(scroll on down, find 'Venice' on the page)


The movie, "Fish Can't Fly," featuring Wayne Besen and Peterson Toscano is really, really good, and describes what a destructive, dangerous bunch of hooey this 'ex-gay' effort is, and virtually all medical, mental health and social services professionals won't touch it.

http://www.fishcantfly.com/

Beware of the name, 'Throckmorton.' He is some instructor at a seemingly hardright religious college who has a background in psychology, and who pushes this crud incessantly, making some goofy film called, 'I do exist.' It turns out that many of the so-called 'ex-gays' just happen to be employed by or who have an association with hardright religious organizations such as Dobson's.

because, as a self-defining heterosexual woman of a certain age, when I was a child, I always (according to a reliable source = my mother) had worms in my pockets, of my shorts. They were my friends. But. I also had the Barbies. But. I also learned how to shoot (my dad was in the army). But. I wear (to this day) a lot of pink = works with my complexion. But. I also was taught Judo (by an army Sargeant Major) and also learned how to drive by a MP (military police). Which makes me (according to this asshole), a very confused woman. Or... according to most people that I know, a very well rounded person.

I HATED barbie, anything pink or girly, and from infancy would SCREAM if put into a dress. I played sports, climbed trees, punched boys, and tried to pee standing up.
Yet (gasp!) I'm a fulfilled human being!

Yes, I'm sure that the bull queers would respond very well to the "buddy time".

This asshole has something coming if he thinks that effeminite personalities are isolated to queer men. Lot's of straight men are perfectly wimpy and drawn to traditionally female models of behavior.

Something tells me that Venice's real point is to "fill his bowl" with something special. What better way to meet vulnerable people than to advertise for queers who want to be straight. His job is probably just as easy as that of a seminary master.

why the fuck is a grown man saying "pee-pee"? It's a penis. Or a vagina. Apparently he's so wrapped up in the symbolism, he's afraid to say the proper name.
Edit: I know you don't piss with your vagina. Just making a point.