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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:15 AM
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Poll question: Do you believe YOU were spied on?
If there were a freedom of information act tomorrow, and you
could find out if ANY branch of ANY police, state or private
contractor has spied on you. Do you believe that your paranoia
would be confirmed? We well understand that this is likely just
one of many departments and DOD contractors in a murky pond of
civil rights violations and enthusiastic profiling database police.

So do you actually think that your phone records have been
listened-to? Do you hesitate to send things in email or via
conversation, expecting information to be lifted by the electronic
spy agencies? Has anyone in the intelligence industry looked at
a satellite photo of your home to check for any odd constructions
or materials?

And it all adds up to... do you think they spy on you?
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:20 AM
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1. Yes. I know that in 01 & 02 my phones were tapped and my house was
watched for about 2 months.

I would hear the noise on my land line and started making jokes about it on the phone, the interference was so bad. I would have to move around the house to other locations to get a more clear reception, and the click and fuzz was unbelievably loud. People calling would comment on it, and I would just laugh and say it was the feds with their wiretap.

I wasn't scared or even bothered... so far *cough* dissent and calling the traitorous pigs in the white house fucking assholes isn't illegal.


I have a dear friend that is a well known published dissident who's had it much, much worse than I have, so I knew that my name calling wasn't anything to worry about.

Fuck the feds.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:21 AM
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2. anti-war
Before * commenced the war on Iraq in March 03, I participated in anti-war vigils.

I also supported Dean for President and participated in marches and rallies.

I'm not that important or official, just a participant, but nothing this admin does would
surprise me.

I haven't made any overseas phone calls, but have made lots of emails overseas and
participate in global mb's where I express my liberal leftie views freely and passionately.

Sue
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:23 AM
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3. I simply don't know.
It's a possibility of course, but I don't know.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:26 AM
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4. Me personally? No. DU? Yes!
:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:31 AM
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5. There are nearly 82,000 registered users here.....
...and I would actually be more surprised to find out that most users here weren't being monitored.....
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sproutster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:31 AM
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6. I'm telling ya'll set up a firewall - check and see who's attempting ...
To get in.

DoD Network Information Center 285.36.66.48 Port 26575
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:32 AM
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7. Not gona vote, because I don't give a shit!
If they spy on me or have spied on me they will see a true American!
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:34 AM
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8. I know where there are 81,893 suspects.
Just sayin'
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:47 AM
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13. Rather i see those as "not" suspects
People who talk about their feelings, engaging on any level, are
not resorting to violence, and obviously don't accord with it, or
they would not be online where violence is not an option between
civil individuals. So why would persons hang and talk in a nonviolent
haven? Does one need ask? How many havens where not an aura, a
premonition, or history of violence, and in all those places, not
82000 persons having rational discussion.



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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:59 AM
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15. A NBC story said they spied on Quakers and a PTA meeting.
So I think they got spooks checking out DU too.
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:43 AM
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9. It's certainly within the realm of possibility...
that DU has been/is monitored - so in that sense, yes, I've probably been spied on. I have also marched, attended vigils, signed petitions, etc.


Oh - and there's that Dean bumper sticker still on my car.


For the record: I now think GWB should be impeached and possibly imprisoned. (Stick that in your database you fascist pos).

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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:44 AM
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10. absolutely
I have an Iraqi friend living in the UK whom I correspond with frequently. He and his wife are extremely critical of junior, Rummy, and Bliar.

Also, I have had many LTTEs published critical of these felons.

I lived in the ME for 4 years and had many friends who were political appointees from various counties.

I have no doubt that I have a file.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:44 AM
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11. It doesn't matter to me.
It's fucking awful one way or the other.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:01 PM
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16. it matters like a blacklist
When you make the lists of political ideological writers who compose works against the
administration, it can work wonders in the jobs marketplace in keeping certain candidates
"outside" certain careers, as if the new priesthood in the byzantine system of corporate
professional castes, are partisans, cleansing the system of dissenters... like in the film
gattaca.

So as you're young and not on a list yet perhaps, it will come to matter to you.
Blacklisting is how they destroy the economics of those who disagree with them. If you
have to learn this the hard way, then be aware. These bush folks are like the yakuza and
they know that the cutting edge of their demise is the writer's pen.

So writers sharpen your swords and lets off these villains. (it *should* matter)

... said krishna to arjuna on kurushetra underground... :-)
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:44 AM
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12. I doubt it, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:56 AM
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14. I have no idea--but it pisses me off that they might have.
Have I been someone they wiretapped or have they monitored my online activities? I honestly have no idea.

I'm pretty outspoken with my disgust at violent or illegal activity, however, I'm no real threat to anybody unless you consider a loud and outspoken voter to be a threat. If political action is any kind of threat than I guess I probably am on a list someplace.

What really pisses me off is that we now living AGAIN in a country where I might even WONDER if it has gone on.

This sure as hell isn't what they had in mind when they penned the Constitution.

This certainly isn't what they had in mind when all the men and women in the military swore to defend and protect our nation and its ideals as expressed by the Constitution.

I hate what we have become under this group.


Laura
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