C-Span "Live" in the House...now at 12 MN..Whats Up?

Don't tell me they are actually Live in Session at this moment??????? If this is true, What is going on?

Something feels creepy about this........It could be benign and I'm just "itchy" when I see repugs up on the floor at 12 Midnight before a Holiday week during a lame duck session...

:scared: :hide:

Always enjoy seeing him.

:shrug:

I presume

He was up there objecting.

Or something to that effect. I had just turned it on and didn't catch the full line of bullshit Hunter was putting forth.

I'll be damned. It's about the Defence appropriations bill, right?

I was just off to bed but I don't know now. :scared:

Yes it is live. They couldnt wait 10 more minutes to led Randi's Q&A finish. :grr:

edit:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/3533732.html
WASHINGTON — House Republican leaders worked late tonight on a bill that would open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in northern Alaska to oil and gas exploration.

The GOP leaders had to quell a rebellion of moderate Republicans to pass a Defense Department spending bill that included language that would grant energy companies access to what's believed to be the largest, untapped oil deposit left onshore in the United States.

The real battle could come this week over in the Senate, where Democrats have vowed to try to strip the drilling language from the legislation

Why not put the free school lunches in the energy bill. the kids need the energy to learn.

What else has more to do with defense than art museums! :sarcasm:

that would get the point across. like you said, NEA funding or maybe Fully funded Homeless shelters, or Spay and Neutering clinics for stray dogs. these GOP Slime will surely have an aneurysm.

:)

but can't find one. Maybe I missed them when I post here.:shrug:

Oh wait....there is one from Arkansas......He supports the bill......

They both complained about the way this conference report was handled, but they support the bill.

I have been on "sleeper mode" over the weekend. This is a big shock. I should of paid closer attention.:spank:

Pretty amazing huh?

They are working on the Defence appropriations bill, fighting about not adding a campaign finance law to it, and I think yet another bill. I know the Patriot Act was on the agenda, but I think they might have abandoned it.

Let everyone know what's up in da House. :P

now that I know it was not a hallucination from eating that worm with the Tequila.:smoke: :hide:

report.

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/13438652.htm

JACKSON, Miss. - Congressional Republicans have come to a hefty hurricane relief agreement, Sen. Thad Cochran said Sunday. Cochran, R-Miss., chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, said that he has negotiated a deal to provide more than $29 billion in federal funds for areas affected by Katrina and other storms from this hurricane-rich season.

"This is a big victory for Katrina disaster victims," Cochran said. "This legislation will accelerate and improve the recovery from the damages caused by the hurricanes." The White House initially requested $17 billion in hurricane relief. Cochran's request sought more relief for the Aug. 29 storm, including: $11.5 billion for community development block grants; $1.6 billion for K-12 schools; $95 million for higher education; and $125 million for state and local law enforcement.

Hurricane relief funding came from previously appropriated FEMA money and from cuts to the 2006 discretionary spending budget. The House and Senate will consider the spending measure as part of the regular Defense appropriations bill. The Republican-controlled Congress worked through the weekend, battling over year-end bills to trim the deficit, aid victims of Hurricane Katrina and pay for military operations in Iraq.

Gov. Haley Barbour has spent much of the past two weeks in Washington in an effort to coax as much money as possible from national lawmakers. "Over the last few days, agreements have been reached in Congress on important initiatives to help the Mississippi Coast and South Mississippi recover and rebuild from the devastation of Hurricane Katrina," Barbour said in a release. "Today (Sunday), conferees from the House and Senate agreed on an unprecedented $29 billion relief package whose development was spearheaded by Sen. Thad Cochran."

It's a shame the Democrats didn't do anything to help Katrina victims :eyes:

until they get the bills passed before xmas.

It still makes me nervous......I know better but I just feel guarded for some reason.

You know, ....."When is that other shoe going to drop feeling". :scared: :shrug:

NO ANWAR!

since no one has read the bill all the way through...

Remember last year when the GOP tried to sneak through the provision allowing them to look at our tax returns for no reason...

He was flat out asked and is on the record if he lied.

They lie all the time. What's the difference?

are in the House........

has that already passed or is it still part of upcoming legislation (ie. a rider)?

:wow:

It's going to get fiesty.......I feel it in my bones.

this is great what Kucinich is doing .. like yea what the f ...... k are you guys trying to get by us in this bill? What is in here. That was great. :)

:rofl:

that high ... is to try and hide something. Damn I remember reading 'War and Peace' thinking the story could have been told in half the book. But then that's just me .... :shrug: Peace.

Russian Authors during that time period were paid by the WORD. Learned that from a college kid a few months ago while I was reading it!

wrote it back then .... I woulda made it loooooooooooonger .... cause the extra $ woulda come in handy indeed! But then that's just me. :shrug: Thanks for the insight, I didn't know that. :)

:popcorn: been waiting for this amendment.

Pork for some airport somewhere?

Lane Evans, Illinois is the only one from that state on the House Armed Services Committee Membership list for the 109th Congress. (that being said, i'm sure everyone's horse can be up on the blocks in the horsetrading going on behind the scenes )

They are ready to slap down any funny business........:woohoo:

grrr i hate these (R) congresspeople.

The version of a bill that has passed one house of Congress, and is sent to the other. It reflects the changes made to the original bill, if any, during the amendment process on the House or Senate floor.

(answering my own question)

:)

Naming post offices after people...

Don't do what donny dont did.

:P

like watching paint dry.

At least paints give of an intoxicating fume.. these guys just stink. :D

why am I still awake? We're watching post offices being named, guess they couldn't go on break without naming that post office out in BF Egypt! ...... :)

:crazy:

Soon as everyone's asleep, that's when HR 6666 the Martial Law Act will be passed. :-O

increasing a pipeline...

I really wish I could follow all this!

That's the whole point :P

Kucinich objects for a minute...

I'd love to know just the title of that one!

cain't spell good whin i'm pissed!

Even Kucinich is asking what the heck is in the amendment.

Then he backed down.

pork-pie alert!!! pork-pie alert!

JUNIOR DUCK STAMP?????

I'm ranking member and I have a right to know what we are passing!

OMG!!!!

D-Wisconsin, appropriateions committee ranking member.


drug company indemnification. 45 pages inserted by FRIST. he demanded it be included in the report after the conference was told it wasnt.

How can we be sure this nonsense isnt happening right now?

"HOW LONG IS THE BILL"?
I intend to demand that EVERY bill be read in it's entirety.


Operating under some very strange rules right now, saying that items being inserted after conference reports are finished.

POMBO: I understand your frustration.

OBEY: what does not happen is that the leadership does not abuse it's power routinely to alter conference reports.!!!!

Leader of the house is abdicating his responsibility !!

I saw the exact same thing. Those look like my notes. :)

Pombo deliberately misunderstood Obey's questions...it's not about his 4 page duck bill, and he knows it. It's about the deceit going on behind the scenes with added pages and lies in conference. Republicans are altering conference reports. Lying thugs! They can NOT be trusted.
Frist is a proven liar. They just lie and lie until they're caught several times and then they lie and lie some more.

He did, which is why he pulled it, by interrupting him. Scumbag. Pombo is a known foot-soldier thug in these house dust-ups.

Put up your dukes!

It's 1AM and they're just getting started..

I'm so glad to hear him demand a reading of the bill.

Why won't they read the Bill?

He got so nervous he said "stupid stuff" on the house floor!

goatee guy right?

I'm always up this late or later. :D

I see he's a D, but how liberal is he?

This David Obey outburst interrupted "The Junior Duck Stamp" legislation ... been waiting for that one all night .... :popcorn:

that you are so impatiently awaiting? :hi:

Oklahoma speaker recognized for one hour? Ugh.

Conference report. OMG that thing is ginormous!! a good 6" stack of paper.

gonna ask for my 'Junior Duck Stamps' at the post office here in a couple of weeks just to see if they passed this legislation tonight. :hi: :popcorn:

seems like a worthy cause ... conserving our wetlands and migratory birds ..... teaching kids, kindergarten through grade 12 can participate.... oh well maybe they'll still bring something else up tonight I can participate in. :shrug: :popcorn:

by sprinkling enough money around the appriations bill to buy off those against it.

45 pages of language that was NOT going to be included, but WAS.

Indemnity for Pharmaceutical companies, in case of illness, unless there was malfeasance..
instead they get access to an EMPTY compensation fund.

Sweet,You have to lobby congress in order to provide compensation for your loss.

FRIST walked across the capitol, and demanded the language be inserted in the bill.

We are here once again , to notice that a couple of musclemen corrupted the process, who think they have the right to make us do their bidding.

It ought to be stripped!
WOW SCATHING stuff.

Speaking up:
this bill is violating germaneness rules, WAIT he just said ANWR is in the bill.


Pombo withdraws unanimous consent, interrupting markey.

:puke:

Where the wind comes sweeping down the plain
Where the waving wheat
Can sure smell sweet
When the wind comes right behind the rain

IRAQI FREEDOM OK!!!

He's giving his selective memory of his trip around IRAQ. Unlike reporters, or the IRAQI government he got to travel outside the Green Zone, with an escort of what, 200+ troops?

giving the repukes a little lesson on the rules!!

My america beat fascism without resorting to torture!!

Thanks, I missed that gem.

I should be shocked, but I for some reason I'm not...

I fear they will, someone an (R) already contradicted the denial by Duncan.

What a jackass.

STUFF ADDED AFTER THE CONFERENCE WAS OVER.

"stuff back to jefferson's manual has been waived"

"for heaven's sake, what we are doing is so critical ... you are going to be explaining what is in this bill, why you don't know what's in it, and why you didnt stop it. "

shoving stuff in bills after the fact, after everyones signed it .... if I signed a contract and some nit-wit added something to the contract AFTER, I'd see them in court and let them tell it to the judge. What recourse do our reps in the House and Senate have to get these Repubs to stop this crrrrrrrrraaaaaaaap? :popcorn:

R-Texas talking up the ANWR drilling, why it's not in the conference report? OR IS IT?

Hypocrite, lying cowards and criminals. The GOP is the Nazi party of the 21st century.

and it is! For the pharmaceutical industry!
I want to know what exactly is in this language...

This is what the word of Republicans is worth.

updated: Oh, its to protect phamaceuticals because of the BIRD FLU!

Why else would they use Musclemen?

Obey is on it, even at this hour!

by sprinkling enough money around the appriations bill to buy off those against it.

45 pages of language that was NOT going to be included, but WAS.

Indemnity for Pharmaceutical companies, in case of illness, unless there was malfeasance..
instead they get access to an EMPTY compensation fund.

Sweet,You have to lobby congress in order to provide compensation for your loss.

FRIST walked across the capitol, and demanded the language be inserted in the bill.

We are here once again , to notice that a couple of musclemen corrupted the process, who think they have the right to make us do their bidding.

It ought to be stripped!
WOW SCATHING stuff.

..."ANWR provision rammed down our throat by the Senate" or did I get it wrong?

That's what I typed but sometimes I'm frothing and mistype.

which is why there was confusion on whether ANWR was in or not.

confusion or lying.

I vote for Lying. They lie all the time.

:eyes:

ugh.

Edward Markey: not in the house, not in the senate bill, this provision has been added to the defense appropriations bill. A Cant pass measure has been added to a, must pass measure in order that the republicans give a huge gift to the oil industry.

Now after the oil companies have registered 100 billion dollars in profits, ...
the republicans waving all rules in the house, have slapped this bill onto the appropriations bill.

"What are they doing? they are attaching an OIL AMMENDMENT to drill in the arctic wildlife preserve"

"This myth that republicans dont fight wars for oil, ... is finally put to rest once and for all, since members CANT vote up or down whether they want to drill in ANWR"

RE: soldiers in IRAQ, if the rules committee will bring a bill down here without ANWR, it would pass.

drug companies got stuff added, oil companies got stuff added.

if you think that if we vote this down, that it wont be in the next bill, they will put it right back in.

so we reach this point where the house and senate majority are contortiing the rules of the house for generations.

...

In order to preserve the integrity of the rules of the house, to give full consideration of the rules, I URGE A NO VOTE.

A Fund for avian flu ??

nobody will be able to collect from the fund, it gives indemnity for any vaccine makers.
the plaintiff will have to prove "willfull misconduct" causing death or serious injury.

however a mfgr is assumed to be innocent of misconduct IF they have followed the health and human services rules. That determination trumps the plaintif.

JESUS CHRIST, these crooks need to pay!!!

Well done, Dan!

no balls

against the vaccine manufacturers getting off scott free. He knows they falsified documents and lied to the consumers and most importantly he knows full well that many, many children were damaged because of that malfeasance.

I hate the rest of his politics but on this issue he has always been rock solid.

late this afternoon. That was added like the ANWR provision.

I don't remember seeing you in our usual CSPAN Geek threads.

:) I've been in on some during the day, but these congress critters got me angry! :evilgrin:

What are we going to lose at this point?

We all know that despite all the speeches this is going to pass...

fvcking LIAR!

I'd like to be able to read this when I can think clearly. :)

what you see here on CSPAN will probably not match what you read in the record. Before each speaker talks, they ask for unanimous consent to revise and extend their remarks, which is always granted. So Duncan Hunter, for example, could put into the Congressional record that he told Kucinich that ANWR was still in the bill, even though he's on video saying it wasn't...

is, for fvcksake!

the only reason it's being done is because they (majority) can do it.

Why would we expect Duncan to tell the truth?

I hear the Abramoff scandal might snare him. I hope whoever is running in the election is watching tonite.

Mr speaker if absolute power corrupts absolutely so does oil.

He's calling it subterfuge. "The Artificers who try to run this scheme realize it is difficult to vote against a defense spending bill."

Doing some tough duty and calling FOUL!

He's calling for a Bi-partisan effort to stop the rule on ANWR.

You can beleive in Santa Claus, but you cant beleive ANWR will solve our energy problems" :rofl:

vote no to restore integrity to this institution
vote no to this rule.

the naming of post offices and stuff...probably hoping people would think that they were all done...

I actually wouldn't mind sleeping through this sh*t! Maybe I'd wake up from this nightmare.

Have only seen a handful of Democrats on the floor.

Ranting against this being slipped into the appropriations bill at 2 in the morning!

and he's right! Shit like this should not be slipped in at 2 AM!

What I Know more strongly. the process stinks, it;s indefensible ..forcing members into a false choice.

this (ANWR)( has gone through 3 presidents, and it should.

This rule should be defeated.
This rule should not be part of the defense appropriations bill.

Just because people have the power to do it doesnt mean its right, and it will come back to haunt you.

Such a fucking douchebag.

look at him. please.

"I guess we will debate it again. "

"I think it's kinda funny" is this guy really a congressman?

And yet they have used procedural rules to stop it.

HES falsely EQUIVOCATING the rules used by dems to stop ANWR in the both bodies to the parliamentary SHIT they are pulling right now.


I have an idea, lets' put a spigot in POMBO's fat ass and see if there is oil in them hills.

slimey imho

that was quick...

He did get the opposition into the record. Getting back to the idea of the Congressional Record, it will be interesting to see how DK's exchange with Hunter will get recorded...

the Greatest threads page only at the late hour.

Katrina: We saw this, and thought.. lets' start cutting the budget.

Operation Offset.. ugh.

Republicans saw a disaster and decided to take away kids lunches!!

What about that big 500 BILLION DOLLAR BILL FOR THE IRAQ WAR??

TONITE THE TASK BEGINS:

The republican revolution is back :puke:

????

:)

Revolution is back.:puke:

Rep. Jay Inslee up now, at about 2:00am. "Vote NO on this rule!" One pissed off fella.

Hoyer up to make " a point" :rofl:

I love all the spine I'm seeing tonight!

applause!

...i thought it was the freakin' panzers got 0.8 miles per gallon.

"I look for better days for the U.S. Congress."