From 9-11 to Peak Oil and Beyond - Michael Ruppert on TVNL Radio

From 9-11 to Peak Oil and Beyond

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December 19th, 2005 - 12:00 Noon ET - Denial Stops Here - From 9-11 to Peak Oil and Beyond

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Was 9/11 a pretext for securing the last remaining energy supplies? Are we running out oil? Are we headed for economic and lifestyle doom? Are we ignoring the biggest threat ever to modern man?

Guest: Michael C. Ruppert of From the Wilderness. Michael Ruppert, a former Los Angeles police officer who exposed the CIA drug trade and identified Dick Cheney�s role in the events of 9/11, is now warning the public about what is possibly the greatest threat to the modern man�s way of life.

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but he is wrong on this one. we have more oil than ever. look up abiotic oil. the oil companies fund the enviromentalist groups to get govenment control over the alaskan oil . they also stop more refineries from being made to create a bottleneck in gas production. global warming is caused by the sun getting hotter. there are so many alternative theories to consider. saying theres peak oil justifies them to jack up the prices of gas over $3.00 a gallon. its a total scam.

Whatever . . . :eyes:

with all that abiotic oil being made out there.

Namely from the fact that at the depths that abiotic theorists speculate these great untapped pools, the heat would be breaking apart the molecular bonds of hydrocarbons, and what you would be left with, at best, is natural gas, or possibly methane. And the biggest point of contention is that even if there were these great untapped pools of oil, they are prohibitively expensive to tap, thus leaving us in the same situation.

Which leaves us where we are now, escalating oil prices with no relief in sight, along with rising pollution levels. All of which means that we still need to switch to clean, renewable, alternative fuel sources. Why go hunting for more oil when there is enough harvetable wind energy in North Dakota, South Dakota and Texas to supply all of the US electrical needs, including projected growth, through the year 2030? Why continue to burn petroleum when we have viable hybrid and biodiesel technology?

Sorry, but even if there are these great untapped pools of oil that the abiotic theorists speculate about, we still need to get off the petroleum teat, if for no other reason than for the sake of our health and the sake of the planet's well being.

there'd be no need to worry folks. In perpetuum you soccer mums could keep on driving your 12mpg Expedition to take the kids to dance lessons or soccer practice while dad takes his 10mpg hummer on the 40 mile commute to the office each day, and at the same time the family easily affords the heating bills for a suburban 4500 sq ft McMansion with a cathedral ceiling and the cost of jetting off to mid winter breaks with the kids at exotic resorts in the Caribbean each year. What's more, in the years ahead a billion or so Chinese will be able to take up this lifestyle as well.

oil-shale.
Investing in refineries and extraction technology to deal with those 2nd rate sources requires a lot of money, hence the price-gauging we've been seeing lately.
Current refineries are approaching the end of their operational life, so it would be a waste of money to build more traditional refineries now. They certainly are not building many more traditional extraction facilities.


ROCKY MOUNTAIN NEWS
SHELL'S INGENIOUS APPROACH TO OIL SHALE IS PRETTY SLICK
Date: Saturday, September 3, 2005
Section: Commentary/Editorial
http://ww2.scripps.com/cgi-bin/archives/denver.pl?DBLIST=rm05&DOCNUM=20000

When oil prices last touched record highs - actually, after adjusting for inflation we're not there yet, but given the effects of Hurricane Katrina, we probably will be soon - politicians' response was more hype than hope. Oil shale in Colorado! Tar sands in Alberta! OPEC be damned!

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Drill shafts into the oil-bearing rock. Drop heaters down the shaft. Cook the rock until the hydrocarbons boil off, the lightest and most desirable first. Collect them.

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And we've hardly gotten to the really ingenious part yet. While the rock is cooking, at about 650 or 750 degrees Fahrenheit, how do you keep the hydrocarbons from contaminating ground water? Why, you build an ice wall around the whole thing. As O'Connor said, it's counterintuitive.

But ice is impermeable to water. So around the perimeter of the productive site, you drill lots more shafts, only 8 to 12 feet apart, put in piping, and pump refrigerants through it. The water in the ground around the shafts freezes, and eventually forms a 20- to 30-foot ice barrier around the site.

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the heaters. Heating something requires power, power is generated by, hmmm, could it be fossil fuel???? I doubt seriously they would use wind or solar power because that would blow away any theory of trying to exploit this very expensive type of oil extraction. Even if they use natural gas, the price of that stuff is sky rocketing.

Beyond heating the "tar" all other processes involved in this is pretty conventional, but when you add the cost of running, repairing and fueling the heaters, then the price goes way up.

They claim $30 per barrel but I think they are quite delusional.

It's going to cost more than they get from it.

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I was confused by the Dec 13th date posted in the text of the message.

Thanks for the alert. Mike just came on at 12:24 est.




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