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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 02:29 PM
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In light of recent revelations of Bush criminality, did he order Anthrax?
I'm serious here. Do any of you think that he could have actually personally ordered the Anthrax attacks that so conveniently negated several threats to his power?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 02:31 PM
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1. I don't think he would be smart enough to think of it.
I do think that 9/11 was LIHOP, though. That didn't take any brains, just ignoring threats and being lazy.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:37 PM
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28. I agree that he isn't smart enough
but Rove or Cheney could have come up with it and the Boy King would have gone along with it. No doubt giggling gleefully at the thought of the horrible deaths it could cause.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 02:31 PM
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2. Sure. Why were only Democrats and the press targeted?
Answer: BFEE. Most Americans don't even remember the Anthrax scares.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 04:12 PM
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16. I sure do. I was opening my mail with rubber gloves here in NYC
Because we had just been bombed with airplanes and then anthrax hit several newsrooms plus a poor lady whose mail just happened to come in contact somehow - she lived midtown east, IIRC. Anthrax heightened the severity of the WTC trauma. It felt like the danger was endless.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:12 PM
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25. I think most Americans outside of NYC, FLA, NJ & DC paid little attention.
Edited on Mon Dec-19-05 06:14 PM by CottonBear
I am so sorry you had to go through all of that horror. :(

Strange, isn't it, how Bush never mentions the Anthrax attacks?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 02:31 PM
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3. yes. I've always thought he was behind them.
Notice...no one has ever been arrested for that? WHY?
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joannc Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 02:38 PM
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7. I have wondered the same thing
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 05:58 PM
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24. Hi joannc!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 03:39 PM
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12. Me too.
It was so contained and the drug companies made SO much money. Plus, there were NO anthrax attacks anywhere else in the world. It was just too convenient.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 02:33 PM
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4. Its a possibility
Im still wondering why anyone even bothers to bring up these charges. Its obvious he can do anything he pleases and the GOPers in Congress will justify it.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 02:33 PM
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5. Yes, he did.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 02:36 PM
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6. Seems a strange coincidence
that the letters were hand-dated 09-11-01. Either some-one knew in advance what would happen on 9-11 or they quickly took advantage on the day by grabbing a bit of anthrax and stuffing it in a few letters..
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 02:38 PM
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8. Well I always thought so....or someone who liked him alot...
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 02:42 PM
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9.  The Forgotten Anthrax Attacks of 2001
Just a week after the Twin Towers went down, the first of seven letters filled with anthrax arrived not from the distant outlands of the planet, but from Trenton, New Jersey. This first wave was sent to a potpourri of media outlets: ABC, NBC, and CBS news as well as the New York Post and the National Enquirer in Florida. They proclaimed, "Death to America. Death to Israel. Allah is great." Two more, also postmarked from Trenton and dated October 9, 2001, were sent to Democratic Senators Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy. These letters emptied prime-time TV newsrooms and, for the first time since the British burned Washington in 1814, cleared the halls of Congress while it was still in session. It should have been unforgettable.

The cast of characters would come to include bumbling or recalcitrant FBI agents, intrepid disease investigators, amateur sleuths, heroic postal workers, a wounded child, brain-damaged survivors, TV personalities like Tom Brokaw, the top politicians of our nation, and the most secretive weapons scientists, labs, and arsenals of the Cold War. Just to make matters more interesting, Steven Hatfill, a bioweapons expert and for some time the main (as the Attorney General put it) "person of interest" in the investigation, had access to the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) in Frederick, Maryland at Fort Dietrich where some of the country's most secret bioweapons work was done. It should have been the case of the century. It should have been unforgettable.

September 11, 2002 rolled around amid weeks of ceremonies and rites, interviews with survivors, and memorial articles galore, while TV shows and books poured out. But where were the survivor interviews with those victimized by the anthrax killer(s)? Where were the books, the dramas, the movies, the TV shows? Four years later, the victims and heroes of 9/11 are still being written about; their "sacred" ground in New York is still being bitterly fought over, but when was the last time you saw anything about the victims or the heroes -- mainly postal workers -- of the anthrax attacks?

Within the last year, the ongoing investigation of the case has, according to the Washington Post, been significantly downsized. The number of FBI agents assigned to it has dropped from 31 to 21 and postal inspectors from 13 to 9. Many of those remaining are now said to be "in the process of taking inventory. The FBI and postal inspectors have spent months piecing together a voluminous internal report that will review the scope of the investigation…" It has "cold case, dead file" written all over it.

When it comes to costs, according to the Post, "at least 17 post offices and public office buildings were contaminated. Including cleanup costs, an FBI document put the damage in excess of $1 billion." And that doesn't account for the more subtle costs such as the role the attacks played in panicking Congress into an invasion of Iraq. Would the administration's various bizarre fears and alarms about the dangers to us of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction have had such a realistic ring to them if our representatives hadn't actually experienced a bioweapons attack? It should have been unforgettable, but by some mysterious process that has yet to be considered, the attacks were, in a sense, "disappeared."

http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=43459
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The 'attacks' were a planned, co-ordinated, and implimented just as some Dems and media began to question the 9/11 'failure'.


...but nooooo, Alqueda and Bu$hco/PNAC aren't working together, not at all.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 03:15 PM
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10. Well,
Between orchestrating 9/11, and being responsible for the Tsunami, the earthquakes and hurricanes, wildfires and mudslides, dynamiting the levees, SARS and the bird flu, the London terror bombings, Arafat's death, the Big Dog's heart attack, rigging elections both at home and abroad, and the Patriots 2002 super bowl win, I'm not sure he'd have the time given that he also spends a significant amount of time running this country into the ground. I guess it's possible, though.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 03:16 PM
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11. If he did it puts him over the top
he'd officially be worse than Saddam if he did.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 03:59 PM
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13. IMVHO...
it was more likely his "brain" or dickhead.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 04:08 PM
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14. access, opportunity & motive
only spooks have access to weaponized anthrax.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 04:11 PM
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15. Makes one wonder about the D.C. protests too. n/t
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 04:16 PM
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17. ok-tin hat in place-follow this link
Edited on Mon Dec-19-05 04:24 PM by w8liftinglady
http://www.casi.org.uk/discuss/2001/msg00932.html

"THE OVERTHROW OF THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC, Part Three
by Sherman H. Skolnick 10/12/01



THE ANTHRAX COMMISSARS

Invoking War Power-like authority, the Younger Bush White House ordered the
suppression of certain news under the disguise of plugging up leaks of
so-called "military secrets". The details.

For a number of years the State of Michigan, through Michigan State
University, owned and operated the Michigan Biologic Products Institute.
They had the exclusive contract with the Department of Defense to, among
other things, develop and produce an anthrax vaccine.

A strange and mysterious group, in 1998, bought out the state-owned
Institute, calling themselves BIOPORT CORPORATION, and the Department of
Defense became its only customer.

"The takeover itself is considered suspicious by some. 'The company
acquired the Michigan Biologic Products Institute for the express purpose
of taking over and acquiring a lucrative military contract', said a
bio-warfare expert who asked not to be named and accused company officials
of 'WAR PROFITEERING'". (Emphasis added.)
-cont-

Now-go to sourcewatch

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=BioPort_Corporation

what is the common denominator between bioport and bush?

then go to
http://www.judicialwatch.org/1967.shtml
FBI & BUSH ADMINISTRATION SUED OVER ANTHRAX DOCUMENTS

Judicial Watch Wants to Know Why White House Went on Cipro Beginning September 11th

What Was Known and When?

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption and abuse, said today that it has filed lawsuits against the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”), the Department of Health and Human Services (“HHS”), the Center for Disease Control (“CDC”), the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (“USAMRIID”) and the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) for those agencies’ failures to produce documents concerning the terrorist anthrax attacks of October 2001, under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (“FOIA”).

and finally
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/anthrax/anthrax_espionage.html

The CIA's Role in the Anthrax Mailings:
Could Our Spies be Agents for Military-Industrial Sabotage, Terrorism, and Even Population Control?

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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:01 PM
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29. Judicial Watch Wants to Know Why White House Went on Cipro Beginning Septe
Judicial Watch Wants to Know Why White House Went on Cipro Beginning September 11th


What Was Known and When?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 04:21 PM
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18. came from american military base, hit dems and reporter neg to
bush.

i dont know, i would think we would at least check it out
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 04:28 PM
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19. one last link(I promise)
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 04:33 PM
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20. Naw, Bush can't do it all
Besides, it's Cheney and his right hand man, the charming "Scooter" Libby that just LOVE germs. Not that the little Emperor would have a problem with it. Anything it a time of war, you know. It's what's best for the country.
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 04:37 PM
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21. The WH WAS taking Cipro
BEFORE the attacks. just sayin'....
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 04:39 PM
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22. right-see post #17 above
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 04:47 PM
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23. And what about the dead microbiologists?
Something's rotten in DC.

Did you hear they released Dr. Anthrax and Dr. Germ in Iraq. Guess they weren't responsible.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:29 PM
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26. This whole thing is "hinky". nt
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:32 PM
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27. Of course.
In one way or another.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:04 PM
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30. Bloody George is only a puppet
Considering the targets, it's obvious that the cabal ordered the anthrax attacks.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:03 PM
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31. So we give him a pass? nt
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