So we impeach and he refuses to resign. What happens next?

Clinton did not resign. How can we make him and Cheney leave?

the house impeaches (indicts)
the senate removes from office (convicts)

why don't we just skip forward a few steps...
to the conviction and removal from office part.

kidding.... i wouldn't miss Bush's trial for anything !!!!!

He was found not guilty in the Senate.

On Edit: To all those so petty to miss the point, blah blah yes, he was impeached in the house blah blah, but the second step of that process, the senate conviction, failed. The impeachment failed. Don't bore with with petty details when the context in relation to the OP is the same. It wasn't a choice by Clinton to not step down. The overall impeachment process failed and that is why. If the senate convicts they are gone, period.

It was an unsuccessful impeachment. Not a choice by Clinton. You know what I'm talking about.

By you standards, then an indictment, even if found not guilty at trial, and a conviction are the same. They aren't.

Though similar, the law does not deem that a trial has to occur no matter what.

Impeachment is a two step process, period. Yes, after the house is successful the person is considered "impeached", but to be a successful impeachment the second step of the "Impeachment Process" has to be successful.

To me it was petty semantics. My point was valid though maybe not as explicit as it should've been.

does an indictment not lead to some sort of court action? Sure, the Prosecutor can refuse to bring the charges to court, but then the Senate can refuse to hold the trial, there is nothing in the Constitution mandating that it happen that way.

I suppose a court can throw out an indictment, and not an impeachment, but then that involves a mini trial, right?

or being impeached, he cannot stand to lose and he cannot stand to be proven wrong. He will push the button before that ever happens !

Impeachment means the House finds reason for the Senate to try a POTUS. It has happen twice in US history. Both times the Senate failed to convict.

http://www.eagleton.rutgers.edu/e-gov/e-politicalarchive-Clintonimpeach.htm

Not guilty on the investment deals, which imho were far worse. He was actually impreached for lying about the sex deals. So, how many lies has Chimpy McPinoccio told?

If they do not leave then, we are faced with the greatest constitutional crisis in modern times.

but not the Senate?

Then it goes to trial in the Senate, and if they convict, the President can be removed. Clinton actually was impeached but was acquitted by the Senate which is why he finished out his term.

that correct? I was only a young pup back then.

He would have been impeached and convicted most likely (as well as you can predict these things) if he had not resigned.

He was persuaded to resign because the House would have proceeded with impeachment had he not.

Why did Nixon leave, then? Was he convicted in the Senate?

Only the House of Representatives plays the role of the Grand Jury. Instead of "indicting" they either "impeach" or not.

The 'trial' is held in the Senate. Think of the Senators as members of a regular jury in a criminal trial. They hear the evidence and decide whether or not the evidence warrants conviction of the crimes the president was impeached (think 'indicted') for.

Clinton was indeed impeached. The House found reason to believe a crime had been committed. The Senate held a trial on the charges in the impeachment and found the evidence lacking.

The Impeachment of President Nixon and The Crimes of Camelot by Jerry Zeifman. It is out of print but sometimes you run across one on Amazon or even through used books at Barnes and Noble or Borders. It will take you through the whole mess.

Clinton was indeed impeached but since he was NOT convicted he didn't have to leave office. Nixon resigned before the impeachment process. He and his advisor's, who, I think, MADE him resign because of what they considered the fragile state of the American public at the time (an excuse not to let the public EVER know the extent of what he had done) knew he couldn't escape impeachment, conviction, and removal from office.

Removing Bush from office IMO is just impossible but convicting him of his crimes, also IMO is NOT impossible, after he leaves office and the Dem's take back OUR government.

I just don't think the Bush loyal family will EVER actually vote for impeachment, ergo no vote for conviction while Chimpy holds the crown.

Senate voted against it

At least not any "We" that I'm part of. Nor, as far as I know, any other member of DU.

to remove these g.d. rose colored glasses.

but are you asking, what if he is impeached by the House and removed by the Senate and still refuses to leave? Because I've wondered that myself. He has already started building a mercenary army, loyal to him, and he has boodles of financial backing from corrupt corporations who would rather see him stay right where he is. Exactly who would walk in to the Oval office and grab him by the collar and remove him?

make up the law like he does, so I don't know what to think anymore. Originally my question was regarding the actual process that happens after impeachment, but I also half wonder if he would try something like you described. I think in the end it would only happen if a powerful enough group of rich folks choose for it to happen.

And a few veterans of various ages might be willing to follow their lead. With continued benefit cuts, too many have nothing to lose.

The neocons have NOT been good to the military. They have used (and spent) them as decoys while raiding the US Treasury for the corporate masters they serve. They attach legislation to military spending bills to force Congress to approve them or be attacked for 'starving the military' and being 'soft on defense'.

The neocons serve their corporate masters. Hell, I would help evict any neocon squatter who tried to stay after being impeached and convicted by the US Congress.

If the Secret Service, the DC cops, and whoever the hell else is protecting him let me, I would go right in and tell Mr. *, to get the Hell Outta The People's House!

That is, of course, after he is impeached by both houses of congress and the cops wouldn't kick his ass out. I think the SS will get to him first.

his ass out. The GOP will not allow him to take down the entire party like that. Vacating isn't the problem. It's getting to impeachment hearings. I have no doubt if we get hearings, his ass is fried.

This might be fun!

I'd love to see it.

...If it reaches the point where he loses the confidence of his own party and he is impeached by a large majority he's going to resign.

and voted up.... then they get delivered to teh Senate where a trial is held... which incidentally found Clinton NOT Guilty, that is why he remained in power. If Bush if found guilty and he refuses to step down, we enter territory this nation has never been at... period. He is found guilty and steps down, it will still be unprecedented.

Read the Constitution, the legal map is there

as of today...might be hard to read. :)

They should try it. I don't know about Cheney, but he's rather ill and maybe won't fight back.

if you turned your back on him. Don't let that ill act fool you.