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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 12:44 PM
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Kerry: White House spying unconstitutional, Bush excuse `lame'
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Kerry: White House spying unconstitutional, Bush excuse `lame'
By Glen Johnson, AP Political Writer | December 20, 2005

BOSTON --Sen. John Kerry said Tuesday that the domestic spying authorized by the White House "doesn't uphold our Constitution," and that President Bush offered a "lame" defense in recent public appearances.

"I think the president's explanation is lame," Kerry said. "The fact is that there is no wording whatsoever in the law that permits what he engaged in. ... And the president's claim that he has some inherent authority to do this -- against the stated intention of Congress not to -- is simply wrong."

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/12/20/kerry_white_house_spying_unconstitutional_bush_excuse_lame?mode=PF
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 12:45 PM
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1. THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, JOHN n/t
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:02 PM
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2. Actually, we are the ones that need to do something. Kerry can
speak up and he can try to gain support in the Senate, but until "we" place pressure on our elected officials to investigate this further, Kerry's is just one voice. I intend to contact both of my Senators and my Rep too. I have had enough of no "Checks and Balances".
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:15 PM
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13. I have done the same.
Unfortunately, 2 of my 3 representatives are Repugs, and the lone Dem. votes with the Repugs more than 1/2 the time or so it seems. Nevertheless, I appealed to the Repugs' patriotism, love of country, and the oath for which they swore to defend our beloved COTUS. I hope everyone else will do the same as us. :patriot:

I have also contacted the local newspaper numerous times to complain about their lack of editorial condemnation of Bush-boy's lawbreaking. I must have pissed them off too much in the past, though, since I no longer receive responses. :rofl:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:08 PM
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5. he HAS been doing more than anyone but conyers.
come on get pissed. say how worthless a dem he is. lets hear the whole bullshit story line again
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:44 PM
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6. More than Boxer? Or Lewis?
I think not.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:38 PM
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7. i think so. the only thing boxer has done without kerry is jan 6
there are a few things kerry had done boxer hasnt made statement in..... otherwise they are pretty consistant with each other. if we just HAVE to have a competition. i personally would rather just appreciate each and everyone of our congressional leaders that speak out each and every time
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:13 PM
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8. January 6th WAS monumental.
But I agree that it shouldn't be a competition. They should ALL be speaking and acting in unison to remove the Boy King from his throne. The I-word should be pouring forth from all their lips and they should be wrapping themselves with the COTUS. It's time for them to make the Repugs choose - We the People or their traitorous leader.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:14 PM
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9. Taint a race. I think they're in it together
or at least that's been my impression.

Team effort.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:35 PM
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10. So, Bush "doesn't uphold our Constitution," huh?
This is a completely worthless response. He is not taking a stand.

How did so many people get the idea that saying nothing is the same as standing up and saying something?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 07:50 PM
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12. ah, you are full of it. of course it says something
you want to pretend it doesnt, so be it......

we can do the fight without you. or are you going to attack in order to help the other side,.... i wonder
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:25 AM
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14. Nonsense.
Kerry's position is, "That's too bad; gotta go."

That's neither leadership nor taking a stand. If you think it is, you're not willing to fight.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:05 PM
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3. I'm glad Kerry is still hassling these jerks
n/t
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:05 PM
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4. I am happy that he has come out with a statement. He is right the
President's excuses are lame. I suppose it was "hard work" to have to go and get subpoenas, and beside, he is the Commander in Chief, and can do whatever he thinks is correct.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:39 PM
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11. Way to go John...
Doug D.
Orlando, FL
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:31 AM
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15. "lame" good way to make some news and get your point out there
much better ;)
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