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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:22 PM
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O'Lielly retreats! Says phrase 'Happy Holidays' is fine!
O'Reilly retreats in "war on Christmas," declaring: " 'Happy Holidays' is fine'

On the December 19 edition of Fox News Channel's The O'Reilly Factor, host Bill O'Reilly apparently reversed his previous position that the phrase "Happy Holidays" is offensive, stating, " 'Happy Holidays' is fine, just don't ban 'Merry Christmas.'" O'Reilly has previously claimed the term "Happy Holidays" is offensive to "millions of Christians" and "insulting to Christian America."

O'Reilly's comment came during an interview with Fox News analyst and former House speaker Newt Gingrich in which the two discussed the so-called "war" on Christmas. During their discussion the two criticized ABC News national correspondent Sam Donaldson for his December 18 comments on ABC's This Week that O'Reilly was hyping the "war" on Christmas to garner ratings. Gingrich declared Donaldson's remarks to be a "perfect illustration of the mainstream media's elitism," while O'Reilly stated Donaldson's remarks were evidence of "organized left-wing secular bias" in the media.

O'REILLY: Continuing now with Fox News analyst Newt Gingrich, who's been following the Christmas controversy with some interest. Our pal Sam Donaldson weighed in over the weekend on that.

DONALDSON : We're accusing this media of ours of trying to get ratings. Well, Bill O'Reilly wants ratings. He wants to stroke the yahoos -- where is Mencken when we need him? -- in his audience by saying there's a war on Christmas. You can say "Merry Christmas." You can say "Happy Holidays," "Happy Hanukkah." Say whatever you want. The fact that he's simply trying to get ratings on this should not engage us to think that there's a war on Christmas.

....

O'REILLY: You know, I like the debate. It's an interesting debate, but the personal attacks leveled at me and other people who have taken the position that Christmas should be respected should be -- "Happy Holidays" is fine. Just don't ban "Merry Christmas," that's all we're saying. But the personal attacks just show you how vicious and how, you know, intense this whole thing is. Give you the last word, Mr. Speaker, as always.

GINGRICH: Well, look, I think it's this intense, Bill, because in their world, they want a future that radically different. And they recognize if you're allowed to talk honestly about it, the people are going to side with you.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512200007

Looks like Bill is starting to roll over like the dog that he is...and Sam Donaldson is part of the organized left-wing secular bias??
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:23 PM
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1. Thank Gawd. Is the war over?
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:25 PM
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5. I was beginning to think it would bog down with an insurgency....n/t
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:34 PM
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13. LOL. This could go on for years. Timetable for pull out?
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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:47 PM
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18. Yes, we have liberated Christmas...
and Santa and Rudolph have greeted us with flowers (poinsettias) and candy (canes.) We will, however, continue to monitor all international phone calls for use of the phrase "Happy Holidays."
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dubyaD40web Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:24 PM
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2. Will someone get me a jacket?
Hell is freezing.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:24 PM
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3. Flip Flop
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:25 PM
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4. What a consummate jackass
But you knew that.
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:27 PM
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6. Wonderful. The evil christ hating Atheist agenda...
is moving right along. I and my atheist friends shall celebrate with many an abortion tonight! :evilgrin:
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:59 PM
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21. That's perfect
Ha ha ha :7

:rofl:

:applause:

:patriot:
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:27 PM
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7. The liar surrenders
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mindfulNJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:28 PM
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8. Please tell me again...
Why does this man have his own show?:think:
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:40 PM
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16. He has some pics of someone big in the network....
in a compromising positon, would be my guess. :shrug:
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:42 PM
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17. Gannon and Cavuto?
:hide:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:28 PM
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9. Still doesnt stop the fact that O'Reilly is the biggest douche ever.
Hell, for all this crap he's pulled this year, I'm nominating him for biggest douche in the universe.
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 08:25 PM
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30. Too bad Keith Olbermann is on vacation
He'd jump on this.

BTW I think Keith said O'Reilly has been retired from World's Worst Person cause he wins so often!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:30 PM
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10. The baby Jesus weeps...
...with laughter.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:31 PM
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11. some retreat: here's his "talking points" column for today
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,179259,00.html

Seems like he still thinks Happy Holidays is not fine at all.

onenote
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:34 PM
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12. Well excuuuuuse Sam Donaldson for having two neurons firing at one time!
"Gingrich declared Donaldson's remarks to be a "perfect illustration of the mainstream media's elitism..."

The whole "elitism" scam is just that - an emotional grab for the masses: Look at that guy - he thinks you're stupid - hate him!

Sam walks right into the trap with, "He wants to stroke the yahoos -- where is Mencken when we need him?" Do you know anyone who will feel respected if called a 'yahoo'?
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:38 PM
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14. Rupert Murdoch signed his letter "Happy Holidays" this
is the reason for the flip-flop.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:12 PM
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25. Plus * wishing the reporters "Happy Holidays"
kinda deflates your sails when your "Saviour" uses the wrong words . . .
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:38 PM
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15. Royal douchebag
With no integrity.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:48 PM
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19. fucker - may his soul be forever in a state of turmoil n/t
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SushiFan Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:49 PM
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20. FUCK O'Reilly. Hard and without abandon. Make him love us libs! nt
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:04 PM
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22. Oh God, did they falafel each other on the air. Two Big Sickies.
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Chabs39 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:06 PM
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23. I don't see the problem either way
I don't see the problem either way
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:09 PM
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24. Who gives a flip what he says? nt
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:17 PM
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26. The War is over. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
Idiot. Get called on your shit and back down. O'Lielly is such a pussy.
I swear my 6 year old nephew could take him in an intellectual debate.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:23 PM
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27. What will his minions do now?
I have this image of Republicans roaming aimlessly around the plains like sheep without their shepard. They've got to find something else to hate - quick!
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:53 PM
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28. We've Truned Off...
...the distraction light. You are free to move about the airplane...
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:56 PM
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29. If O'Reilly says it's so, then it must be
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