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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:20 AM
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Poll question: Poll for Dean Supporters: What are your politics?
Edited on Tue Oct-21-03 12:29 AM by BurtWorm
Polls for other candidates to come.
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alexwcovington Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:22 AM
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1. eh?
Seeing as how this *is* DU, how can you justify putting in the right-wing slots? Every vote for the right wing sides must therefore be the vote of a flamer...
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:25 AM
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2. I suspect non-Dean people are voting
That's the last poll I'm putting up. I wish people would be more honorable.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:26 AM
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3. If you're a Dean supporter self-identified as "right"
please identify yourself.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:29 AM
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4. Northwest of center.
Socially very liberal, fiscally very conservative (as in balanced budget). In favor of some, but not many restrictions on gun ownership (ban assault weapons, obviously, more controls on hand guns, but leave hunters be with existing regulations.)
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:48 AM
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5. I don't do labels
why don't you ask about issues .. these directional terms are meaningless .. no vote
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:55 AM
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7. Okay. Where do you stand on the tax cut rollback?
Are you with Dean? Do you think the whole thing has to be canned, or do you think only pieces of it should be--the pieces that won't affect the middle class and working poor?

And what should be done about NAFTA and the WTO? Should the US impose US or international standards on countries we make trading agreements with? If not, what standards should be set, and what trade-offs should the US be willing to make for fair trade?
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:09 PM
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11. tax rollback
Sure, I agree with the tax rollback. I wouldn't mind leaving the breaks in place for the few 'families of four' who get the best cut in the deal, as Krugman suggests. But a 100% repeal is probably best.

If you remember, before b**h forced the tax breaks through, polls showed 80% of Americans didn't WANT a tax 'cut'. How many other 'tax cuts' in history have been handled the way this one was.. by mailing out $300 checks? Media show all the way.

And now we have this: ..."This President and Congress are placing the very financial security of our nation in jeopardy. They are “borrowing” hundreds of billions from the Social Security Trust Fund and placing $52,000 of new debt on every family of four over the next six years.

Under George W. Bush, Enron Economics has become the official fiscal policy of the United States. We are endangering our financial status abroad and mortgaging our children’s future.

It is time for the American people to stand up. Together we can take back our government from large corporate interests and restore fiscal sanity." ... letter from Howard Dean

I understand Dean wants to make some changes to NAFTA. That and WTO are not something I have kept up with as much as other issues .. but I trust HD to make the right decisions. Something DOES need to be done about the corporations taking their business and jobs out of our country, and he knows it.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:19 PM
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13. still on this.
Are you with Dean? Do you think the whole thing has to be canned, or do you think only pieces of it should be--the pieces that won't affect the middle class and working poor?

Repeat after me: We don't need any part of Bush's Tax Cut in order to provide fair tax policy that benefits the middle class.

Instead of picking and choosing which parts of Bush's tax cuts are worth retaining in this convoluted, mangled tax system, why not get rid of all of the tax cuts and introduce some RESPONSIBLE tax policy that benefits the middle class?

IOW, why is it presented as a black and white issue, as in Either You Are For Repealing All Of Bush's Tax Cuts Which = Raising Taxes On The Middle Class Or You Support Rolling Back SOME Of Bush's Tax Cuts Which Is The Only Way To Give The Middle Class A Fair Shake?

And what should be done about NAFTA and the WTO? Should the US impose US or international standards on countries we make trading agreements with? If not, what standards should be set, and what trade-offs should the US be willing to make for fair trade?

Since you are making this your issue of choice, I will assume you know a lot about this issue. That's good, because I need help. What is the difference between US and International trade policy? I mean, I don't think most people know any specifics about these policies as they currently exist. I think people look at this specific issue and see "waffle" which is ridiculous when you consider that this all stems from a dimwitted attack on Dean over semantics, not policy.

Dean wants for our trade policy to include standards for labor rights, human rights, and environmental protection. When he used the term "international trade policy" he was referring to the EU, and more specifically how you can't JOIN the EU if you don't adhere to certain standards. Some US trade policies have similar caveats.

So the answer to that is BOTH. Trade offs? There need not be tradeoffs.
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WaterDog Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:55 AM
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6. I voted
Liberal/center left but it is kinda hard to put a fast label on it. I'm liberal but like Dean's fiscal conservatism. I'm very big on the environment because in the end that's really all we got in a way. I like Dean's practicality.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:09 AM
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8. I don't like labels either. I see myself as "practical"
In some areas I'm fairly centrist, in others I'd be considered radical.

As far as environmentalism, I'd be considered "radical" by most. However to me, it's sheer practicality. The environment must be protected at any cost. It's what gives us life.

As far as most other things, I feel that competition is good, but it's the government's job to play referee and enforce the rules so that it's truly competetive.

What the republicans fail to tell you is that competition doesn't necessarily lead to better products, what it leads to is the biggest and strongest eating the rest to ELIMINATE the competition.

It's like a basketball game without referees, and no rules, and pretty soon Shaquille O'Neal is standing on a chair kicking everyone down who approaches and stuffing ball after ball through the hoop.

Businessmen are like children. Their job is to push the rules as far as they can without getting their hands swatted, and hard. You have to cordon off certain areas (the environment) and say YOU CAN'T PLAY OVER HERE. And you have to watch them like a fucking lifeguard and make sure nobody's getting pulled under water.

And yes, of course Bush's tax cuts should be 100% done away with. They were a bad idea in the first place. They should never have happened at all.

The fact that I think George Bush should be sent to death row for his crimes .... along with his cronies ... does that make me radical? If so, then I'm a radical.

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:14 AM
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9. You know what's sick?
I'm not too good at labeling myself, either. I reflexively prefer "leftist" or "progressive" to "liberal," but leftists and progressives can drive me batty, too.
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:21 AM
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10. Take the test to discover your place on the spectrum
Bring up the site then go to the second button "take the test" on the left. I found out when I took this on another thread that I'm a leftist libertarian like Nelson Mandela. It doen't seem to match up with any of the candidates. What a revelation! My thanks to whoever posted it first. Lots of fun.

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/usprimaries.html
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:19 PM
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12. me too
Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.44

You should post this as a thread. It would be interesting to see where most people are.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:22 PM
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15. ha I am - 8 on both of that
I am such an extremeist lol.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:25 PM
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16. Thanks for giving this unscientific poll a shade more of a
Edited on Tue Oct-21-03 12:25 PM by BurtWorm
scientific foundation. ;)
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:33 PM
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18. me 2
Dennis and Al are both in the left/lib quadrant ...
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:21 PM
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14. I'm just like Dean
I believe what I believe. Wherever that puts me on your political spectrum, whatever.

My boss thinks I'm liberal, and some people here think I'm a freeper because I don't like Michael Moore. Go fig.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:26 PM
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17. i'm liberal/left of center
probably somewhat to the left of Dean.
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