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_TJ_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 08:18 AM
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Iraq election a DISASTER - two new Talibans created !
Iraq's election result: a divided nation

Iraq is disintegrating. The first results from the parliamentary election last week show the country is dividing between Shia, Sunni and Kurdish regions.
Religious fundamentalists now have the upper hand. The secular and nationalist candidate backed by the US and Britain was humiliatingly defeated.

The Shia religious coalition has won a total victory in Baghdad and the south of Iraq. The Sunni Arab parties who openly or covertly support armed resistance to the US are likely to win large majorities in Sunni provinces. The Kurds have already achieved quasi-independence and their voting reflected that.

The election marks the final shipwreck of American and British hopes of establishing a pro-Western secular democracy in a united Iraq.

Islamic fundamentalist movements are ever more powerful in both the Sunni and Shia communities. Ghassan Attiyah, an Iraqi commentator, said: "In two and a half years Bush has succeeded in creating two new Talibans in Iraq."

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article334476.ece

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PatrioticOhioLiberal Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 08:26 AM
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1. And one new "Taliban" in America
Oh wait...it's a Christian Taliban here, that makes it ok...my bad.
:puke:
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:43 PM
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7. But you have it the wrong way around
The talibornagain begat Booosh.

-Hoot
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 08:28 AM
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2. I bet Bill OhReally is happy that evil secularists won't be in charge
He hates secularism here. So I bet he is thrilled at the prospect of a religious state over there...
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 08:44 AM
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3. You're doing a heckuva job, Junior!
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 08:49 AM
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4. Don't ever forget .....



This all happened while the rethugs were in control of all three branches of the BushCo government. How can they possibly say the fuggups were the fault of any other party?






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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 08:53 AM
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5. Well, Apparently,. . .
. . .if we had all stood behind Silverspoon and cheered his imperialist adventure, those people wouldn't have voted the way they did. Yeah, i know that doesn't make any sense, but that's their rationale.
The Professor
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:49 PM
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8. Damn straight. It's them damn libruls, treasonously refusing to hold
their mouths right and pray for our Pretzeldent in the proper, prescribed fashion--on all fours, asses facing Dick Cheney. That's why we lost in Iraq--them damn libruls wasn't rooting hard enough for the home team!
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:54 AM
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6. Actually it's all Clinton's fault. He did it and you hate America. n/t
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 09:04 PM
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16. The Reich Wing imbeciles will only claim...
That the Democrats threatened to shut down the Government to prevent a victory, and made it turn out just like Vietnam with their dissent.

The 'Leftists' did not plaster flags on their vehicles to support the troops, which lost the war.

The 'Leftists' always opposed the President, which aided the enemy and hurt the troops, which lost the war.

The 'Leftists' didn't stop the Reich Wing from over-reaching and abusing their war powers, which made us weaker and lost the war.

Oh no, it's never their fault. Just like it is never their fault that, government actually works with Democrats in charge and turns to shit when Republicans control, pervert, abuse, rig, and dominate everything in the government.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 09:08 PM
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17. "I don't know why she swallowed the fly..
perhaps she'll die"

(Your post reminded me of that old nursery nonsense!)

It could also be written up to the poem "the house that Jack built"..
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:52 PM
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9. Yep
George Bush and Tony Blair ruined their lives where as before it was a lot better. Iraq was the most secular democratic country in the region and now they've sent them back centuries. You won't hear about this on the "liberal media news."
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:00 PM
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10. Went to see what Riverbend's comments were
but she hasn't updated since the 15th. Raed, however, had this:

http://raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com/
Wednesday, December 21, 2005
Cairo Conference: The Divorce of the Fundamentalisms

The big Iraqi conference in Cairo some weeks ago was totally under-reported in the US media. The conference was an indirect declaration of the end of the US-Iranian temporary marriage in Iraq. The last weeks witnessed, for the first time since the tragic fall of Baghdad, a public war between Iran (the political supporter of the Iraqi government) and the US (the military supporter).

On the west side of this conflict, the bush administration tried its best to smear the Iraqi government by “discovering” some “torture prisons” around the country, where the evil Mullahs are supposed to be torturing Iraqis without the knowledge or permission of the US occupation authorities. On the east side of the conflict, the Iraqi government decided to open fire on the US administration by taking a part in the Conference.

I wasn’t very surprised by Cairo’s conference, but it was clearly a turning point in the post-war polictics for three reasons: It happened under the Arab league's supervision and support at a time when Iraq is “not supposed” to be an Arabic or Islamic country anymore; it had a clear request for scheduling the pulling out of the occupation forces despite all the bush administration's attempts of keeping the US army there; and - most importantly - it distinguished between “terrorism” and “resistance” in a move that can be considered as the biggest attack against bush’s war on terror (may America’s god protect him).

Terrorism, according to the Cairo conference, is attacking Iraqis, which justifies attacking any foreign troops in Iraq, including those of the divorcé: Uncle Sam!

If bush and his administration are waiting for Allawi to win in the last elections, let them dream on.

Dear Mr. President bush (may America’s god protect you), I hate to say I told you so, but I did. One year and nine months ago, I blogged:

I mean… from my secular point of view… it is a disaster to have all of these extremist religious right-winged militias… but this is the direct result of the lost policy of the Bush administration, which exactly what the expected problem of imported “democracy” would be. I used to call this cul-de-sac that we are stuck in: The Algerian Dead End. Algeria went through the exact scenario some years ago… do you want elections and democracy? The powerful extremist religion people are going to win : * )

You don’t want democracy and elections? Don’t start the mess.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:31 PM
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11. Wow, so the arbitrary boundrys set up by the Brits after WW1...
actually sucked? Is that what the people in that region are trying to say? that they actually want identity???

I'm sooooooooo surprised, just sooooooooo surprised.

Partition the country. Give them their traditional lands and be done with it.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 07:24 PM
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12. Gee, what an unexpected turn of events. NO ONE could have
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 07:25 PM by RazzleDazzle
predicted this, right?

:sarcasm:
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 07:41 PM
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13. How could any election be a disaster?
Iraqis vote, and they vote for whom they want. They'll get the government they asked for, just like we did with Dumya.

Sounds like democracy to me... At least I'm not hearing about disenfranchised voters and hanging chads.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 08:45 PM
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14. The US never hoped for "democracy" in Iraq, just their oil and making
an example of a non compliant stooge. He had the nerve tu quit being "our SOB"
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 08:56 PM
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15. Our soldiers died for this so you had better suck it up and like it! n/t
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