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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 08:19 AM
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"So the real General in the Iraq war may now be Karl Rove"
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 08:19 AM by kpete
December 20, 2005 | 5:01 p.m. ET

Bush leans on old arguments (Bob Shrum)


So the real General in the Iraq war may now be Karl Rove -- his strategy to withdraw some U.S. forces, just enough to get by the next election where the Administration really does seem headed for defeat, the 2006 mid-terms here at home. But that won't redeem a conflict of choice that was fought on false pretenses; it may not even reduce American causalities if a somewhat smaller U.S. force faces escalating attacks. John Murtha, John Kerry, Russ Feingold and Joe Biden --not to mention Ted Kennedy, who was right on Iraq from the beginning -- have proposed alternative policies. Whatever their differences, they all begin with the truth that an indefinite U.S. military presences, with no benchmarks to measure progress or no target date for withdraw, will bring the final failure of a failed policy by prolonging not preventing the insurgency. As in Vietnam, the present U.S. policy in Iraq is a triumph of hope over experience.

Forty years ago today, I argued the wrong side of the Vietnam War. Now I hear the same flawed arguments trotted out to justify what's happening in Iraq. We are even hearing that old Nixonian standby: the disaster should be blamed on those who criticized the conflict, not those who created and continue it. In our hearts, we all know how this story ends; we just don't yet know when.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10284912/#051220b
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 08:25 AM
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1. okay Bob Shrum!
I tend to think of him as a hack. This is the first time that I feel any respect for him at all. Maybe I won't mind seeing his face on the TV in the future.
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Robert Cooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 08:30 AM
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2. I wonder...
...how those in the field feel about this:

"So the real General in the Iraq war may now be Karl Rove -- his strategy to withdraw some U.S. forces, just enough to get by the next election where the Administration really does seem headed for defeat, the 2006 mid-terms here at home."

Election strategy determining military strategy? That -always- works

Just ask the boys of Stalingrad.
:eyes:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 08:30 AM
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3. I guess even Bob Shrum can make sense occasionally...
(when the evidence has finally piled higher than his house) :eyes:
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