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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:01 PM
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Why do they call it "intelligent design"?? What is intelligent about it?
I don't get it. I was listening to Mark Riley on my way home from work this morning; he was talking about "intelligent design" and I was wondering where that term came from?
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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:05 PM
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1. Marketing 101.
Makes it sound better than it is by implying "intelligence" is involved where in reality it's only beliefs.

I read a recent article about "Incompetent Design" which laid out the engineering failures of the human body and posed the question "If someone of intelligence designed us, why all the flaws?"

Good question.
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:07 PM
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2. The creationists came up with it because they think it sounds like science
It means that life is so complex it can only be explained by magic. They call it "intelligent design" so it can supposedly masquerade as science, since "creationism" is such a hard sell in science curriculum.

Their logic is that life is so complex that there must have been a designer, i.e. God. But if God is able to do this, it follows that God is so complex that there must have been a designer of God, and it would go backwards in infinite regression. But as we know, logic is lost on them.



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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:10 PM
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3. "infinite regression" ???
You must be one of them book learnin' elites usin' big 'ol words like that! :)
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:30 PM
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9. Dang lib-rul elitists and their 50 cent words!
;)
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:15 PM
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5. Or in other words...
...that since they don't understand evolution, no one should have to.

;)
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:13 PM
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4. As another DUer pointed out, its redundant. Design implies intelligence.
There is no such thing as "unintelligent design".

Its just a stupid catch phrase.

On a side note, did you ever notice that stupid people tend to add the word "intelligent" to things they invent as if adding that word actually makes the stupid invention intelligent?
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:20 PM
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6. I think there's an assumption there that homo sapiens sapiens
is an intentional and highly desirable (near-perfect) end-product. The idea that we just happen to be the dominant species du jour and we're here because other possibilities didn't survive the crap shoot is anathema to ID proponents. They seem to think that because something is extremely unlikely to have happened, it must therefore have happened on purpose, when in reality, unlikely things happen all the time. Yes, this particular outcome was unlikely, but some outcome of evolution was inevitable, and this is just the one we got. But some people are very uncomfortable with the idea that there isn't anything "special" about humans, which is why ID can so readily find adherents.
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WhereThereIsFire Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:22 PM
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7. Intelligent design = magical thinking
"Magical thinking" equates nicely with the concept they want us to buy as "intelligent design." I agree totally with the blogger who said if it is intelligent design, why all the flaws? For sure, the project manager on that would need to be fired.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:23 PM
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8. Trojan Horse Creationism
Pretty much.
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