Gonzales: "when Americans wake up on January 1, we will not be as safe"

the terrorists have won, fear fear fear

I hate these motherfuckers

queer queer queer

lather, rinse, repeat until "mission accomplished."

prove their point?

that way at all in the United States of America in the 21st century.

meanwhile, I will hope that you are correct.

or get caught not reading their PDB that day.

n/t

A three month extension would be accepted unanimously but you would rather have it expire.

Talk about crocodile tears.

as if the terrorists will suddenly pop up out of nowhere on Jan 1st!

Terrorists take months and years to plan their attacks, the govt should already be on the ball.

and then martial law. But it was *'s choice not to extend it.

as Bush subscribes to the interesting legal theory that congress cannot restrict the executive branch's authority.

Those who believe it can cower in fear. I don't believe a thing they say.

Every day he's is office increases our dangers.

The arrogance.

while Bush was governor of Texas. He is exactly the "yes man" that the administration needed in the Attorney General's office. Welcome to the banana republic of Republicana.

happen the instant the Patriot Act expires, you'd think they'd be willing to take that 3-month extension while they're wrangling over the details. I guess blivet** and his people aren't that worried about our safety.

and we get LESS safe every day this crew is in power.

:evilgrin:

Al-Qaida is being redeployed. They were real interested in Ohio in 2004. Who's up for 2006? Any must-do states on Osama's list?

:evilgrin:

January 1 or else? Or else what, exactly?

As long as you and your boss is still in office, no American is safe.

If he'd just learn to yield a little.

If he'd just learn to follow the law.

If he just had to pay consequences for being a hardnosed, failure, bastard criminal.

Sue

I blame Bush. He failed to cease the opportunity to unite the world in a fight against terror after Sept. 11th.

I blame Bush. Instead of making our freedom a greater beacon to the world, he used our intelligence, our military and our press to gin up a case for invading a sovereign nation, thereby making the whole world less stable, less safe.

I blame Bush. Instead of relying on principled democracy to triumph in the hearts and minds of the world, he denigrated every ideal of our country by resorting to torture.

I blame Bush. While touting democracy he destroyed the lifeblood of our freedom by making the counting of our votes the property of his corporate donors.

I blame Bush. For all the assaults he has made on the freedom and well-being of this country in the name of national security, he knows what he has done is wrong, for he did it in secrecy.

If after all of this, we have another terror attack, I blame Bush.

Do they just not get it or (more likely) just pretend they don't get it, so they can line the pockets of their buds?

Never mind.

are we supposed to believe that *'s secret police are going to stop their operations at midnight? He must think everyone is as stupid as he his?

Since the invasion of Iraq, which so alienated the very partners we need to work with to curb terrorist threats that something that was once doable now seems impossible: for reasonable people around to world to cooperate in applying police techniques (the only thing that actually works) to the threat.

As another poster has said, we took a big right turn to danger when Bush stole the 2000 election, in that the Supreme Court installed in power a political machine that had nothing but disdain for fair play and honesty.

The same political machine that attempted to execute a coup de tat against Clinton.

The danger is dire and getting worse.

and Gonzo will argue a reason why it's perfectly legal and within his "powers in order to protect the American people." This is all a scare tactic.

Besides, didn't they PROMISE that the only way we would be kept safe is if Bush were re-elected? Since Kerry isn't President, we shouldn't have a single terrorist attack until around 2008 or so...at least according to Cheney who said we would if Kerry was elected.

that terrorism completely dropped off the radar for a while?

Terror alerts suddenly stopped and Ashcroft retired saying that he'd conquered crime and terrorism.

Suddenly Social Security reform became the new mantra.

When that product didn't sell, it was unceremoniously dropped and the old standby of terror rebooted.

Defrauding the American people, spying on the American people, torture, war profiteering, exposing a CIA op tracking WMDs, etc etc etc!!!

You and the rest of those criminals in the BushCO/neoconster regime should not only be ashamed of your abuse of power and exploitation of the American people, you should be in fucking prison!!!

Go to hell!!!

because of the authorization to 'fight terror'. They claim that they would not be restrained by laws and regulations because all Bush would have to do is declare his actions a response to a threat. Here's Gonzales the other day:

"We took the position -- the United States government took the position that Congress had authorized that detention in the authorization to use force, even though the authorization to use force never mentions the word "detention." And the Supreme Court, a plurality written by Justice O'Connor agreed. She said, it was clear and unmistakable that the Congress had authorized the detention of an American citizen captured on the battlefield as an enemy combatant for the remainder -- the duration of the hostilities. So even though the authorization to use force did not mention the word, "detention," she felt that detention of enemy soldiers captured on the battlefield was a fundamental incident of waging war, and therefore, had been authorized by Congress when they used the words, "authorize the President to use all necessary and appropriate force."

and,

"For the same reason, we believe signals intelligence is even more a fundamental incident of war, and we believe has been authorized by the Congress. And even though signals intelligence is not mentioned in the authorization to use force, we believe that the Court would apply the same reasoning to recognize the authorization by Congress to engage in this kind of electronic surveillance.

I might also add that we also believe the President has the inherent authority under the Constitution, as Commander-in-Chief, to engage in this kind of activity. Signals intelligence has been a fundamental aspect of waging war since the Civil War, where we intercepted telegraphs, obviously, during the world wars, as we intercepted telegrams in and out of the United States. Signals intelligence is very important for the United States government to know what the enemy is doing, to know what the enemy is about to do. It is a fundamental incident of war, as Justice O'Connor talked about in the Hamdi decision. We believe that -- and those two authorities exist to allow, permit the United States government to engage in this kind of surveillance."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/12/20051219-1.html

So they claim that Bush can put whatever subject behind the authorization, any target, as long as he claims his actions are directed against an 'enemy', 'detention', 'wiretaps', whatever.


So, why are they claiming now that anything Congress has done will restrain them?

every bit of it. I hope they're all indicted SOON before they finish their PNAC agenda.

:cry:

and told them we might need to use them for a base to attack Iran from. With war in the ME expanded, I don't think we'd need a terra attack domestic-wise. But with all the trials and scandals firing up in January - everyone from Ken Lay and torture to the latest spying revelations and Abramoff - they might need something bad to happen so they can go back to doing what they do best: keeping us safe.

Like anything the torture-justifier says is to be taken seriously. :eyes:



, Gonzalez

Be afraid, be very afraid - OF ME. Now you see your civil rights, now you don't.

look at Bush and Ted stevens they look like kids throwing temper tantrums. This is why they get away with everything, seems as though they make threats and everyone gets afraid. Bush says he is going to keep doing what he wants to do and Stevens yells and screams that he will quit. I say Quit! Quit! Quit!, I have been watching that little drunk for a long time wondering when people would start to notice how he gets away with his tantrums.

Get your emergency supplies ready.

Peace.

attorney general, tralalala, lalala. "If the impasse continues, when Americans wake up on January 1, we will not be as safe," Gonzales told reporters at the Justice Department.

sounds just like

if you are not good, you're gonna get a sack of coal! or, like, so many other tried ways of manipulations by those who want to be powerful over others... i mean, barbara bush must have raised her boys with a whole host of repertoire like, if you don't do "x","z" will happen to you...and alberto gonzalez has certainly learned the score...but maybe his own mother taught it to him!

what a hole bunch of crock! i mean, these people are so childish they are not even capable of thinking that they are talking to adults, mature people.

but then again, their childish fear spreading has worked so well for them up to now, why would they even want to change it, or have an inkling that the people are, so to say, growing up!

and still didn't do anything to stop it, so give me a break...How is the Patriot Act going to make a difference? Incompetence is Incompetence no matter how many laws they make up....

All the tools in the world won't do a damn bit of good if you are too incompetent to use them.

How can we possibly be less safe than we already are????

the GAO proved that!!!

What a bunch of fucktard hypocrits.

:tinfoilhat:

and if he tries any terra fightin that day, I feel even less safe.

Or a concept. You cannot have a war against a concept. You cannot defeat a concept. Why are people lapping up this shit?

Orwellian.

whatever...yawn.

His friends' fearmongering has rendered too many Americans APATHETIC to the Great Cause(tm), or do I mean "crusade"?

Dropping enlistment figures help prove the point to boot.

Ya know?

he did a great job of supervising Mike Brown

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :rofl:

This is the same guy who didn't know anything about a hurricane hitting the Gulf Coast. Maybe when HE wakes up on January 1st., someone will clue him in that there are STILL people living homeless in New Orleans. What a puke.

If we were all prisoners, technological slaves to *, had the GOP and Fundies watching our every move all the time, we would be safe from free thinking, from questioning the wisdom of Kim Il Bush. If were were little drugged robots, we would be safe from all those things that freedom allows us. Fascism, totalitarianism can be "safe." Hell on earth and not what our country is about, but "safe."

On Hardball he said,(paraphrase but pretty close)"Why would the Republicans and this Adminstration let lapse a bill that they insist is VITAL for our National Security when Democrats have offered to extend it for 3 to 6 months as is, while we all discuss changes?
They are putting the politics of attempting to make the Dems look bad over any actual concern for the security of the country."

the power to ensure that any security threat will not occur while our Senators resolve the problems within the law. So these claims are completely false!

But think I caught it much earlier....

I started feeling that exact same way when I woke up on January 21st, 2001 and again on January 21st, 2005..

Hopefully I can start feeling more safe IF I can still wake up on January 21st, 2009...


Doug De Clue
Orlando, FL

"Mr Torture" has all the autonomy and capacity for independent thought of Bush's right arm. When I saw him and "Death Walking" Chertoff come out to defend the ape, I was amazed. These are spokesmen? Neither has any credibility at all. You might as well send frickin' Cheney out to talk about integrity! Oh that's right, they already did.

It's not like this country was ever safe since Bush inaguration in 2001.