Admin admits it didn't want to get the FISA law changed and too

BR_Parkway

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Wed Dec-21-05 05:35 PM
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Admin admits it didn't want to get the FISA law changed and too

much paperwork to comply!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/19/AR2005121900211.html

"The whole key here is agility," he said at a White House briefing before Bush's news conference. According to Hayden, most warrantless surveillance conducted under Bush's authorization lasts just days or weeks, and requires only the approval of a shift supervisor. Hayden said getting retroactive court approval is inefficient because it "involves marshaling arguments" and "looping paperwork around."

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"This is not a backdoor approach," Gonzales said at the White House. "We believe Congress has authorized this kind of surveillance." He acknowledged that the administration discussed introducing legislation explicitly permitting such domestic spying but decided against it because it "would be difficult, if not impossible" to pass.

Screw your civil liberties, there's too many forms to fill out!

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Walt Starr

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Wed Dec-21-05 05:37 PM
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1. HOLY SHIT, GONZALES HAS ADMITTED GUILT!

By admitting to considering legislation to allow it, he has admitted they knew they were in the wrong and were not following the law!

AND THEY COMMITTED NUMEROUS FELONIES OVER LAZINESS DUE TO PAPERWORK!!!!

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reality based

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Wed Dec-21-05 05:43 PM
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3. So I guess Gonzales needs to be added

to the impeachment resolution along with Dick and Little George

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Cleetus

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Wed Dec-21-05 05:45 PM
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4. Holy Shit, you're right.

Gonzalez said it wouldn't pass and it was too much work, so "Fuck it". It sure sounds like chimpy and Gonzalez have both admitted guilt.

Wow, they're stupid. No way this one is going away.

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BR_Parkway

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Thu Dec-22-05 02:39 PM
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9. Guess when you get gov't small enough to drown in a bathtub - then

you don't have as many file clerks running around to do this sort of grunt work for you.

Oh wait, this (mis)Administration has GROWN jobs in the gov't sector - sorry Grover, just one more way ShrubCo f#*ked up. You guys oughta know by now he can't do nothing right!

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Supersedeas

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Thu Dec-22-05 03:42 PM
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10. knowing violation of the act - marshalling arguments justifies anything

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Supersedeas

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Thu Dec-22-05 03:42 PM
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11. knowing violation of the act - marshalling arguments justifies anything

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Geoff R. Casavant

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Wed Dec-21-05 05:41 PM
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2. It involves "MARSHALING ARGUMENTS??"

DEAR SWEET LORD, the man essentially admitted "We didn't seek retroactive approval because then we would have to explain our reasons!"

I think a complaint to the Texas State Bar might just be in order for this fellow.

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katty

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Wed Dec-21-05 06:21 PM
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7. They Dictate - they don't want to or feel they have to explain

anything they do. It's the dictatorship bush said he wanted-and he's got it.

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orwell

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Wed Dec-21-05 05:57 PM
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5. Gonzales...

...just jumped the shark.

I must be tough keeping track of all the lies and spin.

It's time to trot out the insanity defense...

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Spinzonner

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Wed Dec-21-05 06:10 PM
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6. So, if the President can't have his way with Congress

he just goes and does what he wants anyway.

Well, he's been doing that pretty much already.

Isn't that a definition of a dictatorship ?

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subterranean

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Wed Dec-21-05 07:47 PM
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8. They "believe" Congress has authorized it?

I wonder how many members of Congress knew that when they passed the resolution after Sept 11, they were "implicitly" authorizing unwarranted surveillance of American citizens? That is Bush and Gonzales's dubious legal reasoning:

In asserting the legality of the program, Bush cited his power under Article II of the Constitution as well as the resolution authorizing force passed by Congress after the Sept. 11 attacks. The resolution never mentions such surveillance, but Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales said it is implicit...

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