Dennis Miller versus Barbara Boxer -- one Californian's perspective

My best guess about Dennis Miller's chances against Barbara Boxer...

Dennis Miller is not Arnold Schwartzenneger. He's not nearly as popular as the Terminator, not by a long shot. Granted, RWers are going to love him, but they're not going to vote for a Dem, anyway. He can't use the fact that she voted against the war against her, because the war isn't too popular right now. And if she voted against the 87B, too (I should know that, D-OH!), that's even less popular than the war. Plus, his "sardonic wit" isn't going to translate into the same thing as Ahnuld's "optimism." (Thank you, Bill Lockyer...NOT! :mad:)

Barbara Boxer isn't Grey Davis. Even the people who voted for Davis and against the recall (like me) had to hold our noses to do it. No one liked Grey Davis. Plus, she isn't burdened by the (gasp!) "car tax" and a huge budget shortfall. We all know Bush* caused those things, but try convincing the sheeple of that.

So, who knows what can happen in this nation gone mad :shrug:, but don't look for Dennis Miller to catch fire as Ahnuld did.

Other opinions from the Golden State?

that the repube party is hollow, empty, and bankrupt.

c'mon, Dennis Miller..?


Dennis Miller????


THAT's the best they can do????


:D

She has written me fund raising letters saying so. She also knows she is really going to have a tough reelection because she is very aware that she is a target of the right wingers. I don't know if she knew then they would try to run a "personality" against her.

I guess they are cocky now over Arnold's "win". I think she can best Dennis in a debate with substance, but she doesn't have the comic timing Dennis has. If she loses to Dennis all Californians have to know that the fix is in and that we have to demand answers about how the votes are handled in the elections.

As a matter of fact we should be demanding those answers now.

The 2004 elections are going to end up costing me money! I just spent my birthday present on a Dean reception. Maybe for Christmas I can get a generous donation for Barbara B. Then, my next year's anniversary present can be more money for the Dem nominee. Etc, etc, etc. Luckily, I have an understanding husband.

Bill Maher could run and kick his ass.

All the things you put down are enough. Boxer is not hated like Davis, and Miller is not loved like Arnold.

I think a big part of Schwarzeneggar's election was based on the "oh, fuck it" factor. Sort of like voting for Mickey Mouse.

I mean, Mickey Mouse might win an election on novelty alone, but Donald Duck is going to have a tough time running after that. The novelty's gone. The statement's been made.

Best description of 'Murika of late! It's perfectly acceptable to repugs for an actor, as long as he/she is a repug, to run for political office or speak out politically, while at the same time, completely unacceptable for an actor of a Liberal persuasion to do the same. Their blatant hypocrisy regarding this, never ceases to amaze me.

Miller's fortunes in his new neocon act depended on the war going well. What does he have now that it isn't?

"The next time we want to start a war, we don't ask anybody"
Or something like that. That would make a great Boxer Ad.

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Dennis doesn't have a snowball's chance

:spank: A Total Asshole

It now occurs to me that the party of family values and the war on drugs are a big bunch of hypocrites. But we knew that didn't we?

I thought that the voters of this state were smart enough to see through the recall power grab. What did I know??

I'm not putting anything past these power-hungry hypocrites. If they can dupe the public into forgiving Ah-nuld for fondling women, methinks they can forgive Miller's past indescretions and get the public to go along.

Like I said, what do I know? :shrug: In short: after the recall, I'm never saying never again.

My advice is "Don't count your chickens before they hatch" Dennis Miller could win in a state that would elect Ah-nold. He is smarter and may not be As well known, is still a celebrity. Californians just demonstrated that celebrity status is all that is important. Ah-nold had no previous experience except a failed restaurant business. He expressed no policy plans or anything that indicated he even knew what policy was and Californians elected him convincingly. I no longer can say Californians as a whole are enlightened in any manner. Expect Miller to be your next Senator.

and balance your butt. Its another thing to be one
of two people repping your state. Can Miller even
conceive of the way the Senate works, of how bills
get made and collegiality and reciprocity work to
make them go through? DOes he know that patter is
bs and Roberts Rules are the way things go?

Can you imagine him riffing on Byrd and getting his
head handed to him?

Uh, I would pay money to see that, actually...

. Boxer would win hands down.

Personally I think he comes off as an obnoxious jerk.

I doubt it! In showbiz circles he is widely known as being one of the unfriendliest, mean-spirited and ungratefulest bastards in the business. And this was well known before he became a neo-con shill. He's a prick who gives a shit about nobody but people who he finds worthy enough to breathe the same air as himself and that's not us average folks!

Miller has made a career out of being a condescending elitist. I just don't see him having any appeal whatsoever to the average person in California, who probably never understood half of Miller's snide and snobby "jokes," anyway.

At least, I hope he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell, but then, I'm from the state that elected Chimpy as governor instead of the terrific Ann Richards, so unfortunately I'm not ruling out anything.

But she will have to work for it.

It looked very, very close until the final days and vote tally. I don't think she or her organization will forget that, and the lesson of ahnald is right there for all to see. I think she will work very hard and take nothing forgranted. She is a great senator, and I am glad to have had the opportunity to vote for her.

for Republicans. He is seen as an intellectual snob by the people the Republicans would need to win over. He would be a bad candidate for them.

Since his Leno-sponsored revivification (which is suddenly making dreadful sense), he has been less given to those obscure references and convoluted analogies. He dumbed himself down for his RW "coming out" campaign, and as a result, became attractive to the supposed "liberal" Cali audiences of The Tonight Show (which are anything but, and have cheered on Miller relentlessly).


Anyway, as much as I hate to do this, here's a link to a Hannity & Colmes transcript with Miller, before the latter became a Fox embed. I'm still looking for the transript featuring the "Next time we go to war, don't tell anybody"-line (which he did use on H&C; I remember seeing it), but for now, take a couple of Zantac and read on. His "obscure references" have descended to pro-baseball and John Grisham novels. How quaint.

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MILLER: As far as weapons of mass destruction go, to be honest, Alan, I was never sure they had them. That was not a big ticket for me. We said that to get the war machine out of port. But to be quite honest with you, I was hoping they didn't have them because I assume if they had them they would use them and we'd have a lot more dead, young, brave American boys than 125.

So to be honest, I kind of hope they don't find them. Because guess what? The war's over now. You know Mr. Sherman and Peabody aren't getting in way back in the machine and going back for a do-over here. This one is in the books, my friends. It's over.

And you know something? If it makes guys cranky like you that we didn't find them, well, that's kind of fun, too.

COLMES: I'm not cranky about it. I'm just simply pointing out that we were told...

(CROSSTALK)

MILLER: It was a McGuffin. That's what told you. Hitchcock used to always set up a subplot called the McGuffin so he could divert you from the main plot.

COLMES: Well, that was fiction too.