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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:50 PM
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Neocon optimism on Iraq

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/northamerica/printer_1070734.php

Neocon optimism on Iraq

WASHINGTON, DC, United States (UPI) -- Happy days are here again. Or so say William Kristol and Robert Kagan, the co-helmsmen of America`s neoconservative establishment. In their upbeat Weekly Standard assessment of the Dec. 15 Iraq parliamentary elections, they ridicule 'sour experts' whom they assert are going far out of their way to explain why 'the peaceful election of a national assembly for a fully self-governing Arab democracy was not a turning point.' But the election, according to Kristol and Kaplan, was no less than an 'eruption of democracy in the heart of the Arab world.'

Meanwhile, another neoconservative fellow traveler, Lawrence Kaplan, writes in The New Republic that while Americans have an understandable affliction of 'milestone fatigue' after all previous celebrated 'turning points' -- ranging from the capture of Saddam Hussein to last October`s constitutional referendum -- failed to trigger a stabilizing cycle in Iraq, Dec. 15 'really was a milestone.' In an assessment echoing Francis Fukuyama`s yesteryear notion on the 'end of history,' Kaplan confidently writes that 'however torturous the path to Iraqi democracy may have been ... for America at least, the path ended' on the day of Iraq`s elections.

Their collective euphoria filtered up into President George W. Bush`s speech on Iraq this week. Although the election would 'not mean the end to violence', it was 'a landmark day in the history of liberty' which would establish 'constitutional democracy at the heart of the Middle East.'

Iraq may indeed end up surprising all those who doubt that democracy is an export commodity. And Kristol, Kagan and Kaplan -- as well as Bush -- may prove to be correct. Still, their respective interpretations seem more sentimental than logical -- not to mention self-serving.




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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:15 PM
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1. When we went to San Diego
to see my Son complete his Basic training with the USMC there were 538 people in his group.

It was a large group and they seemed to fill the field. The stands were filled with well wishing relatives and friends.

More that FOUR TIMES the number of American soldiers on that day have died because of these slimeballs that include Kristol and Kagan.

So I guess for them that means happy days. I'm beginning to think Ted Bundy and Jeffery Dahmer got a bad rap.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:51 PM
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2. I have so many comments on this piece, but I'll
stick with just a couple.

#1) William Kristol has been extremely critical of this war. In spite of the fact that he was one of the principal warmongers.

He has been lamblasting RumsFailed and others in the Bush administration. I think he always felt it was "great idea" but "poorly executed". Now he thinks it's great? This man swings back and forth like a pendulum. I can't understand why he feels this election was a good thing. Iraq is going to be a theocracy. Compare that with Saddam's secular government. Saddam's former government was the most progressive in the region. That's why Bin Laden hated him.

Iran is really the big winner in this election.

I wonder if even Kristol understands that.

He's such a pencil pusher.
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