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donotpassgo Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:30 PM
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CBS' 'The Reagans' not a glowing lovefest...Freepers heads will explode
http://drudgereport.com/flash6.htm

In the upcoming CBS telefilm on President Ronald Reagan producer fail to mention the economic recovery or the creation of wealth during his administration, nor does it show him delivering the nation from the malaise of the Jimmy Carter years.

The film depicts Nancy Reagan as a pill-popping control addict, who set the president's schedule based on her astrologer's advice and who had significant influence over White House personnel and policy decisions.


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Lookie, Lookie. Looks like the Freepers will turn this into the Last Temptation of Reagan and call this a blasphemy on Ronnie's holy name. So what he took frequent naps, so what his wife was a kook, so what he believed the homosexuals deserved the 'gay plague'. Any show that doesn't show the light of heaven shining on Reagan will be considered an outrage.


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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:34 PM
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1. Hooray!
The 'cans and many others have shoved down our throats the stinking lie that the Reagan years were a shining moral high point in this country. The Reagan administration was by no means short on corruption, scandal, incompetence, cowardice, and hypocrisy. It's time to start the Great National 12 Step Program and admit the truth.
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Midwest_Doc Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:36 PM
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2. Asking for Boycott!
The Freepers are trying to organize a boycott of CBS and its advertisers. I will make of point of SUPPORTING all who advertise during the airing of this film.
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donotpassgo Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:53 PM
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9. They're all full of shit COWARDS
Edited on Tue Oct-21-03 12:59 PM by donotpassgo
If they boycotted everything that offended them, they'd be living in a dark dank hole eating saltines and sleeping on a floor mat.

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agates Donating Member (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:19 PM
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28. Aren't they??
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CarinKaryn Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:42 PM
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3. They were awful people.
Let's make a point of supporting advertisers.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:46 PM
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5. I my self am still trying to get over the Reagan years.
:grouphug: Us sane people need each other.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:27 PM
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18. what if
wal-mart advertises?
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 04:36 PM
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23. it could happen
many big advertisers buy airtime in bulk
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:44 PM
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4. Epilogue: Reagan: The Bitter Years
Scene: Back room in Rancho O'Reagano, sun porch.

Reagan, tied to chair, drooling into a cup.

"Mommy? When can I go fly bomber runs over Bremen like I did during
WWII? You know, The Big One."

Cut to Mommy, dressed in long slinky scarf things and smoking a
doobie on a cigarette holder.

"Ronny, you never served in WWII. <Reference to The Big One cut here
due to the fact that this is a family bulletin board.>

Mommy turns and flings a scarf over her shoulder.

"Mr. Scaife! I'm ready for my close up!"

<Any further references to Norma Desmond are purely coincidental>

CUT to Morning In America (tm)

Bombs away over Iraq
Heroin fields charmingly growing in Afghanistan
Poverty proliferating everywhere, including America.

George W. Bush drives toward No. 10 Downing Street past the bared
bums of hundreds of protesting Brits.

Yes, the world is a much better place for having had the both of them.
Don't you agree?
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:46 PM
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6. or Drudge could be full of horse hockey
The movie could be one big love fest for all we know. Drudge isn't exactly known for fair reporting.
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swinney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:46 PM
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7. reagan greatness read on
--------------------------RONALD REAGAN RECORDS AS FIRST---------------------------
(1900-1989)

(Peggy Noonan pay attention)

1.First to turn America into a DEBTOR nation
2. First to increase DEBT faster than growth of national income in eight years
3. First to increase DEBT faster than growth of gdp over eight years
4. First to double the deficit in just eigh t years
5. First to “almost”: triple the national DEBT in just eight years
6. First to increase SPENDING by 80%--over 8 years.
7. First to SPEND more in eight years than was spent in prior 50 years.
8. First to have “real” INTEREST RATES of 8% after averaging 1% over 35 years.
9. First to keep PRIME INTEREST RATES at 20%.
10.First to over value the dollar to the yen at rate of 262 yen to 1 dollar.
11.First to have served as Governor and increase STATE SPENDING by 112%
12.First to have HOME LOAN INTEREST RATES as high as 16%
13. First to CUT TAXES by 60% for his rich pals
14. First to allow the SAVINGS AND LOAN INDUSTRY to be raided after signing a deregulatory bill and proclaiming “I think we have hit the jackpot”. Come and get it the vaults are unguarded.
15. First to deal with TERRORISTS
16. First to send an AUTOGRAPHED BIBLE to a man he called “The Satan of Terrorists”.
17. First to have an ADMIRAL plead the Fifth Amendment.
18. First to have a stealing, lying, gutless wife abusing MARINE LT. COLONEL plead the Fifth Amendment.
19. First to have a “sitting” CABINET MEMBER INDICTED
20. First to have an ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE INDICTED.
21. First to have an ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE SENT TO PRISON.
22. First to have over 100 MEMBERS OF AN ADMINISTRATION CHARGED WITH CRIMES..
23. First to have more members of his administration charged with crimes than CUMULATIVE TOTAL OF ALL OTHER PRESIDENTS in the twentieth century
24. First to set a record for the LARGEST ONE DAY PERCENTAGE DECLINE in the DOW in history. 10-19-87
25. First to have over $10,000,000 INCREASE IN WEALTH from serving for 8 years as president.
26. First to testify ”under oath” 130 times that ”I DON’T REMEMBER” .
27. First to have an Admiral with a photographic memory testify 128 times “ I DON’T REMEMBER”.
28. First to undergo BRAIN SURGERY a few months after leaving office. No pain no gain.
29. First to, repeatedly, FALSIFY HIS WIFE’S AGE. As tho anyone cared.
30. First to promote his religious faith and never have an ACTIVE CHURCH MEMBERSHIP.
31. First to never use the term JESUS CHRIST in speeches.
32. First to seek GUIDANCE FROM THE STARS not from God
33. First to have had a SHOTGUN WEDDING.
34. First to have worked as a SHILL in Las Vegas.
35. First to call a Stealing, Lying, Psychotic, wife abusing Marine a “LIAR.
36. First to have been OPENLY ALIENATED from his children.
37. First To have served with ALZHIMERS
38. First to have UNEMPLOYMENT AT 10.8% since great depression.
39. First to attack a small unprotected nation with 88,000 inhabitants and 10,000 bb guns then PROCLAIM -“America stands tall again”— “we have whipped the Vietnam Syndrome”-we have defeated communism”. Gosh! What if we had whipped Cyprus?.
40. #1-in FARM FORECLOSURES
41. #1-In BANK FAILURES
42. #1-In SAVINGS AND LOAN FAILURES
43. #1-In Percent increase in PERSONAL BANKRUPTCIES
44. #1-In recorded MISSTATEMENTS
45. #1-In never having a single press conference in which he did not make at least one or more INCORRECT STATEMENTS.
46. #1-In needing a staff person standby during press conferences to tell the press “WHAT HE REALLY MEANT”.
47. #1-In having SERVICEMEN KILLED during peacetime.
48. #1-In largest DROP IN POPULARITY in one week.
49. #1-In being first to HONOR NAZI STORM TROOPERS by calling them” Innocent Victims”
50. #1-In being first to be labeled “BRAIN DEAD AFFABLE DUNCE’ by this writer.
51. First to lie-over and over-to reporters “I DO NOT DYE MY HAIR my barber uses a special shampoo”
52. First to have a wife who ”forced” him to WEAR THREE SUITS in one day
53. First to boast “Not bad for a DUMB GUY who worked only 20 hours per week”.
54. First to have his wife sit nearby and WHISPER ANSWERS to questions
55. First to FALL ASLEEP while the Pope spoke
56. First to invite the Pope to visit the White House and “BRING THE WIFE AND KIDS”
57. First to have his press secretary remove him from the microphone because he could not answer questions. Then, as the reporter
yelled out “answer my question” he replied “MY HANDLERS WON’T LET ME SPEAK”. Quick get the white coat.
58. First 20th Century president to have historians RATE HIM BELOW every president of the 20th except for Richard Nixon. 1994 Poll.
59. First to give us a First Lady with a past reputation for giving the BEST BJ in Hollywood.
60. First to suggest his eldest son undergo PSYCHIATRIC examination
61. First to have been voted in British polls (twice) as the ”MOST FEARED LEADER IN THE WORLD” sic em Rambo.


62. First to serve as Governor on a ”conservative” platform and INCREASE SPENDING BY 112%.
63. First Governor TO INCREASE personal income taxes by 60%, tax increase on cigarettes by 200%, state tax collections by 152%.
64. First to have a Special Assistant say on national TV “sometimes you had to HIT HIM ON THE HEAD with a 2 x 4 to get his attention”
65. First to have his official biographer state on national TV ‘After he was shot in 1981he GOT SLOWER AND SLOWER EACH YEAR. His speech got slower. He deliberated more and he hesitated more when he spoke. He lost his physical quickness and would not make decisions on the spot. It was a very, very slow and steady mental and physical decline”.
66. First to have a POPULARITY RATING OF ONLY 35% after his first two years in office.
67. First president to have been DIVORCED
68. First president to have the Geriatrics Department of a major
university study his behavior and conclude that AFTER THREE YEARS IN OFFICE HE HAD ALZHIMERS.

------------------------------------ THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE---------------
cwswinney@netzero.net
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:06 PM
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13. First to undergo BRAIN SURGERY - so was it to insert or remove?
nt
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:12 PM
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15. Disregard this message.
Edited on Tue Oct-21-03 01:16 PM by mac56
I posted that I thought Gerald Ford was actually our first divorced President. Upon further research, not so. Betty had been married and divorced before, but not Jerry.

Carry on.
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:30 PM
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19. Impressive, but "our" George can do better.
During the Reagan years I was in Europe, where he was depicted as a senile idiot, sleeping with the "full nuclear attack" button next to the snooze button of his alarm clock by the BBC series Spitting Image.

I think American leadership lost all credibility overseas at that time. Some of it was restored during Clinton, but at the expense of the American people during the Lewinsky-thing.

I hate to imagine what they think of us these days. lol
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 05:10 AM
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36. The sucessor to Spitting Image is '2DTV'
cartoon animation, and even more scathing about Bush than Spitting Image was about Reagan. He's depicted as a complete idiot, who can't understand anything his assistant general (not based on anyone in particular, as far as I know) tells him - until the general makes a sock puppet called 'Professor Liebstrom', who treats him as a petulant child - and Bush gleefully behaves that way. See for instance:
TV advert banned for 'offensive' cartoon of Bush
"The seven-second cartoon sketch advertising a Christmas video of the award-winning series showed Mr Bush receiving the video as he sits in the Oval office.

Exclaiming, "My favourite - just pop it in the video player", he walks across the room but instead slots the video into a toaster and burns it to a crisp."

Their website has some video and sound clips: www.2dtv.co.uk
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:34 PM
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30. Oh so that's why the wing nuts want to put him on Mt. Rushmore
I dread the day Reagan dies. They will canonize him before he is cold and name every frigging street, interstate, bridge, building and school after him.

Honoring Reagan is just fits with the great hypocrisy party
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agates Donating Member (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:38 PM
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33. Luckily
There is no room on Mt. Rushmore for another likeness or they probably would have gotten this done. Shudder. I was prepared to move to another state. I will never fly in or out of "Regan" International Airport.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:02 AM
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40. Reagan International Airport...
named after the @#%&* who fired all the air traffic controllers for daring to strike!
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:50 PM
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8. Wonder if they're gonna highlight the fact that homelessness
in the US today is a result of his presidency and his cutting of social programs for those who could not care for themselves. He did the same thing in California when he was governor. IMHO, he was the first of the puppet presidents. If he didn't know what to say Nancy'd tell him. There's a famous clip they sometimes run where he says to Nancy "What should I say?" and she replies "Tell them we're doing the best we can".

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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:54 PM
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10. They should call it "American Idolatry"
It's positively eery the way conservatives have built that fool into a hero.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:57 PM
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11. sounds fairly accurate so far
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:57 PM
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12. It was hard enough to live through, now it's entertainment?
Maybe they go into Iran-Contra. It will expose a lot of these criminals that are working in the bush adm.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:07 PM
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14. Reagan set the stage
for the current dictatorship. He was a truly awful president.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 07:18 AM
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38. yeah but i have a problem with something i heard about this movie
i hear there is a scene in which ronnie tells nancy some bible quote to cut homosexuals.

where did they get that? i'd bet my best dog that if such a converstaion happened, neither ronnie or nancy talked about it.
so where did it come from?

i really don't like that much creative liscense when making a movie about historical figures. just imagine the dialog they could create between bill and hillary to spice up a movie.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:13 PM
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16. You should hear what Jane Wyman had to say about him
she used to be embarrassed to have him meet her friends. He had a problem with four letter words. His mind was mostly gone in the fifties and if he weren't saying what someone else had planned for him to say, he was usually embarrassing himself.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:23 PM
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17. Ronnie Raygun classics
6/16/81
At his third press conference, President Reagan responds to the following:
· The Israeli attack on Iraq - "I can't answer that"
· Israels' refusal to sign the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty - "Well, I haven't given very much thought to that particular question there"
· Pakistan's refusal to sign the treaty - "I won't answer the last part of that question"
· Israeli threats against Lebanon - "Well, this is going to be one, I'm afraid, that I can't answer now"
· The tactics of political action committees - "I don't really know how to answer that."
When faced with skepticism about his administration's grasp of foreign affairs, the President declares "I'm satisfied that we do have a foreign policy."

1/19/82
At his seventh press conference, President Reagan:
· Claims there are "a million more working than there were in 1980," though statistics show that 100,000 fewer people are employed. (see 2/24/82)
· Contends his attempt to grant tax-exempt status to segregated schools was to correct "a procedure that we thought had no basis in law," though the Supreme Court had clearly upheld a ruling barring such exemptions a decade earlier.
· Claims he has received a letter from Pope John Paul II in which he "approves what we've done so far" regarding U.S. Sanctions against the USSR, though the sanctions were not mentioned in the papal message.
· Responds to a question about the 17% black unemployment rate by pointing out that "in this time of great unemployment," Sunday's paper had "24 full pages of ... employers looking for employees," though most of the jobs available - computer operator, or cellular immunologist - require special training, for which his administration has cut funds by over 30%.
· Misstates facts about California's abortion law and an Arizona program to aid the elderly (see 2/24/82)
· Responds to a question about private charity by observing, "I also happen to be someone who believes in tithing - the giving of a tenth," though his latest tax returns show charitable contributions amounting to 1.4%. (see 2/24/82)


3/1/82
Sen Bob Packwood (R-OR) claims President Reagan frequently offers up transparent fictional anecdotes as if they were real. "We've got a $120 billion deficit coming," says Packwood, "and the President says, 'You know, a young man went into a grocery store and he had an orange in one hand and a bottle of vodka in the other, and he paid for the orange with food stamps and he took the change and paid for the vodka. That's what's wrong.' And we just shake our heads." (see 3/24/82)

10/9/82
Jobless Rate Is Up To 10.1% In Month. Worst In 42 Years. 11 Million Are Idle - The New York Times

10/19/82
During a White House meeting with Arab leaders, President Reagan turns to the Lebanese foreign minister. "You know", he says, "your nose looks just like Danny Thomas's." The Arabs exchange nervous glances.


10/3/84
A House Intelligence Committee report finds "no logical explanation" for the lapse in security at the embassy in Beirut, since State Department and embassy officials had plenty of reason to suspect that a bombing attempt was not only possible but probable.

10/5/84
"I don't think he's read the report in detail. It's five and a half pages, double-spaced." - Larry Speakes responding to the question of whether President Reagan has read the House report on the latest Beirut truck bombing.

10/7/84
President Reagan engages in his first debate with Walter Mondale. He does so badly his wife confronts aides afterwards, demanding "What have you done to Ronnie?" Some "special moments":
· Talks about a law he signed in California as if it had been signed by his Democratic predecessor
· Reprises his "hit" line, "There you go again", only to have it thrown back at him with a sharp rejoinder by Mondale, whose handlers knew the President would use it.
· Blanks out completely in the middle of an answer, bringing up subsequent questions about his mental fitness
· Claims that the increase in poverty "is a lower rate of increase than it was in the preceding years before we got here," though in fact it is higher
· Explains that a good bit of the defense budget goes for "food and wardrobe", becoming the first US President to so refer to military uniforms
· Says "I'm all confused now." as he prepares to deliver his closing statement.


4/11/85
The White House announces that President Reagan will lay a wreath at the Bitburg, West Germany, military cemetery housing the graves of both American and Nazi soldiers. It is quickly noted that there are, in fact, no Americans buried there.

4/16/85
As the contra aid vote approaches, President Reagan claims he "just had a verbal message delivered to me from Pope John Paul, urging us to continue our efforts in Central America." The Vatican quickly issues a denial.

4/18/85
While Michael Deaver is in West Germany searching for an "appropriate" concentration camp for the President to visit, President Reagan defends his visit to Bitburg by claiming the German soldiers "were victims, just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps."

4/29/85
President Reagan defends the Bitburg visit as "morally right," adding, "I know all the bad things that happened in that war. I was in uniform for four years myself." President Reagan spent his time during World War Two in Hollywood, making training films.

5/5/85
After having visited the Bergen-Gelsen death camp, President Reagan makes an eight minute stop at Bitburg. During the ceremony, he cites a letter from 13-year-old Beth Flom who, he claims, "urged me to lay the wreath at Bitburg cemetery in honor of the future of Germany." In fact, she urged him not to go at all.


6/11/86
During his 37th press conference, President Reagan:
· Responds to a question about abortion with an answer about an unrelated case
· Displays confusion about whether or not the SALT II treaty exists and about whether or not he plans to order construction of another space shuttle
· Claims that the government is providing 93 million meals a day to hungry Americans. That would amount to one in three people.
He later explains he spent too much time concentrating on which reporters to call on. "Next time, I'm going to concentrate not on who I'm calling on, but what I'm going to say."


4/1/87
A White House official admits that President Reagan has never discussed AIDS with Surgeon General C. Everett Koop and has yet to read Koop's six-month--old report, which predicted 180,000 deaths from the disease by 1991.


8/31/88
Sen. Orrin Hatch calls the Democrats "the party of homosexuals," then denies he said it. A radio station produces the comment on tape.

9/4/88
"Perestroika is nothing more than refined Stalinism." - Dan Quayle


12/22/88
President Reagan - whose tenure has coincided with a huge increase in the homeless population - uses his last interview with David Brinkley to again claim that many of these unfortunates are homeless by "their own choice," as must be many of the jobless, since he again points out that the Sunday papers are full of want ads.


1/5/89
The Reagans return to the White House for the last time, with the President having spent a total of 458 of his terms in office in California. This equals a little over 8 weeks per year.

1/17/89
"We found that the independent counsel's report far from vindicates Mr. Meese; rather, it details conduct which should not be tolerated by any government employee, especially not the attorney general of the United States." - Justice Department report on the ethics of Ed Meese.

1/20/89
President George Bush and Vice President Dan Quayle are sworn into office. As the Reagans depart, the backwash of their helicopter blows the small blue "sailor" hat off Marilyn Quayle's head.



This information was originally collected and printed as part of the book "The Clothes Have No Emperor" by Paul Slansky, Fireside Books, published by Simon & Schuster. ISBN # is 0-671-67339-4. There are many more incidents in the book, but it may be out of print. Mr. Slansky deserves the praise of every American for keeping a fastidious record of the events of the 80's, a difficult task given the slanted coverage that seemed the standard at that time.


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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:57 PM
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22. 37 press conferences by the middle of 1986
At least had the courage to face the cameras, unlike Shrub.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:31 PM
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20. Scary Reminder: Ronald anagram is Arnold!!!
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Some Moran Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 07:32 AM
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39. Wow...
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 07:32 AM by Some Moran
Give that its own topic.
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CityZen-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:41 PM
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21. Nazi Lover Raygoon
Screw the Goon! How fortunate for him that today he can't remember the evil he spread upon our nation.
Do any of you remember that one of his first gestures abroad was to lay a wreath on a Nazi SS soldiers grave! Right there and then I knew that May Brussels was right about his Nazi allegience.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 05:19 PM
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24. Will the Wingnuts Make CBS Cave? (BROLIN as Raygun Pic)
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:04 PM
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25. Tweety Is "Setting the Record Straight" Already
Right off the bat he's got 2 RAYGUN biographers and Ed ROLLINS and gets them to say, no, none of them were consulted for this film. He's already used the phrase "the nonsense in it" and that "It sensationalizes aspects of his life". Tweety sez, "I don't think much of this project from what I've heard."
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:09 PM
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26. Tweety: "Liberals Don't Even Know Their Own Biases"
ROLLINS sez, "Everybody in the WH was concerned about AIDS." Lou CANNON, biographer sez it's unfair to slam him as anti-Gay. Tweety's headline: "Smear Job on (RAYGUN)?" Martin ANDERSON, author, sez, "He sat us down and told us 'Leave them alone'." Tweety, "Did (RAYGUN) use words like 'Commie'? Lou, did you ever find that he testified against anybody?" Lou, "He testified at HUAC, but didn't name names. Liberal publications of the day praised him." Tweety, "The kind of crap that goes on in Hollywood."
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:12 PM
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27. ROLLINS, "Myth of Nancy Deciding Everything with Astrologers"
Tweety, "They always do this crap, stick the knife in NIXON."

Yes, folks, Tweety has come to this, even defending NIXON. He's on to his next big goal: electing Shrub-=---will the economy improve enough to help (Shrub) get elected?????????
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donotpassgo Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:24 PM
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29. ahhh....Im sure the 9/11 Bush movie sensationalizing was OK
or the Guliani sensationalizing is OK.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:40 PM
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31. Chris Matthews' take (surprise)
'It should be probably not shown.' (sic) What a charmer, that Tweety.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:43 PM
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34. When did Chris Matthews become a right wing creep?
I mean, was there a certain point when he became a loudmouth conservative?
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donotpassgo Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:37 PM
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32. Newsmax's scoop
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2003/10/21/105759.shtml

SO LIES DISTORTING THE EVENTS AFTER 9/11 in the Bush TV MOVIE ARE OK?
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 08:22 PM
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35. Do you think Babs would let Brolin do a movie. . .
that made Old Ray Gun look good?
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:51 AM
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37. maybe, she has dabbled in fiction before
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