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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:02 PM
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Constitutional Scholars See Bush's Actions as Unconstitutional &Illegal
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 01:04 PM by kpete

As a Federal Judge Resigns to Protest Secret Bush Wiretaps, Leaders of Both Parties Express Serious Concerns Over Legality of President’s Covert Domestic Spying Program
Date Published: December 22, 2005
Source: Newsinferno News Staff


Several Constitutional scholars like Prof. Susan Low Bloch of Georgetown University see the president’s actions as both unconstitutional and illegal. As professor Bloch indicated in an interview on MSNBC last evening, the president is not specifically empowered to order the secret surveillance by either the Constitution or any existing federal statute.

Moreover, the administration is not, and does not claim to be, following the statute known as the Foreign Service Intelligence Authority which gives the president certain limited authority to conduct surveillance activity.

When former presidents Clinton and Carter acted under FISA (Federal Intelligence Surveillance Act) they did so pursuant to specific subdivisions of the statute and after making the Executive Order public.

President Bush has failed to comply with the statute, and has kept the order under which he authorized the surveillance activities, secret. Had it not been for the N.Y. Times report, the activity would have remained secret.
http://www.newsinferno.com/storypages/12-22-2005~001.html

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:08 PM
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1. Oh, boy! Scholars on the record -
I hear the weather service is upping their prediction of January temps in D.C.!

:bounce:
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:12 PM
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2. The New York Times should be held in contempt for
sitting on this story for so long. They could have changed the outcome of the 2004 election. I call this voter tampering.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 02:53 PM
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7. I call it collusion and/or conspiracy to commit a felony.
I agree. NYT knew this was illegal and suppressed the activity. Whomever was responsible to secret this felony(ies) are co-conspirators.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 03:22 PM
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9. A justifiable presumption that the story WAS w/held b/c of the election
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:17 PM
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3. I guess they didn't read the footnote on Cheney's copy of the Constitution
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 01:17 PM by TahitiNut
* Null and void whenever a distant descendant of King George III, as pResident, says so.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:33 PM
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4. So, why isn't he and the rest of his buttheads being placed under arrest?
This is just insane!!!

This administration has imposed a police state, violated the Constitution, committed numerous felonious acts, even admitted so doing,...and they are walking the halls of the WH and Pentagon and Congress and Dept of State?

Damn!!!
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 03:02 PM
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8. Give it time.
This one isn't going away. And we will have Abramoff while it is building.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 03:39 PM
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10. My impatience grows along with my concerns about our near future.
They've done so much damage. They are doing more and will continue to do so.

This insanity really must end.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:44 PM
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5. The scholars are right nm
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:46 PM
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6. Suspect W and his minions don't give a flying f**k what scholars think
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 05:27 AM
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14. They never have cared; all their propaganda is aimed at Joe Sixpack...
...and Joe Sixpack pretty much holds scholarship in contempt. After all, it's those egg-headed intellectuals who keep insisting that Godless evolution be taught in science classes. And -- and everyone knows college perfessers are liberal.

The Bush administration twists the fruits of higher education and research for its own purposes -- e.g. the way they talk about global warming and stem cell research.

It's going to depend on the "news" media doing some actual objective reportage and devoting enough time to the issue for Bush's crimes to really sink in across a broad swath of the public. If MSM treats it as another he-said/she-said or titillating story it will look trivial and like more partisan sniping.

I'm pleased at the widespread discomfort shading to genuine outrage over the domestic spying. We'll just have to see where it goes.

Hekate
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:26 PM
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11. SEVERAL constitutional scholars. Several. Several n/t
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:29 PM
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12. Ann Coulter?
She's a constitumatooshional skoller. FOX News always bills her like that. I've never seen any other ones on TeeVee, didn't even know there was any 'side from her!
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 06:36 PM
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13. So, does it take a trial;
Before someone takes b*** out back and hangs the SOB?
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