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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:49 AM
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Feingold Fans -- Weigh in here. I LIKE this guy! What should I know?
Blab away!
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:09 AM
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1. I like him a lot too.
Here is some information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Feingold There are a couple of Draft Russ sites out there, too.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:21 AM
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2. I can only speak from personal feelings, but ...
... I saw a lengthy interview with Feingold about six months ago on a TV show (can't remember which one), and I was absolutely BEDAZZLED!

He has Clinton's gift of being able to speak intelligently, off the cuff, on any topic. And he does so in a down-to-earth, easily understood way (i.e. even the politically uninformed can follow his reasoning).

His manner is simple and to-the-point -- a real plus with those voters out there who are, shall we say, not the smartest people in the world.

When asked questions about how badly the country is doing under Bush, he doesn't fall into the trap of finer-pointing and/or ranting -- and yet he gets the point across that mistakes have been made to the detriment of the nation, and immediately mentions an idea or two about how that situation can be rectified in future.

All I can tell you is that since seeing him that first time, there has never been any wavering in my complete support for his presidency, should he run in 2008. There is no one I can think of (and there are a lot of great people out there) who comes close. And since seeing him that first time, I have never seen him speak that he didn't totally reinforce my initial impression.

Russ Feingold is THE MAN!
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:25 AM
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3. Every one of his opponents...
Have used fear and smear against him from day one.

The latest being his GOP opponent in the last election, a used-car mogul who used racism against Arabs (branding all terrorists as Arabs,) to smear Feingold as "soft on terrorism."
It failed completely.

Russ Feingold is one of my state's senators, and is one of the Bush/Cheney/Rove cabal's worst nightmares.
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jane_pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:35 AM
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4. He's a good guy. He does make some decisions that I don't
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 11:41 AM by jane_pippin
always agree with, however even then I'm confident that Russ has thought out those decisions well and I generally feel comfortable giving him the benefit of the doubt. (He can't please everyone all the time, you know.)

I don't know if you've heard about this, but he comes back to Wisconsin to have "listening sessions" (town hall meetings) in every county in the state at least once a year (maybe more, I'm not positive). I've been to one or two of his events and when I talked with him I felt like he really was listening to what my concerns were and was able to actually talk with me about them and not just give some talking point answer or no answer at all. And if you write him a letter he (or his office--whatever) writes you back. I had to stop adding him to the moveon contact your Senators petitions when I signed them because every time I did I'd get a letter from Russ about it and since 9 times out of 10 he was on the right side of the issue, I just started to feel bad for wasting his postage.

He also, if I remember correctly, got more votes in the state than Kerry did last time around. (Wisconsin went blue, but the northern part of the state can be pretty conservative). And, here's a fun new tidbit--my uncle just announced at dinner yesterday that Russ is the only person he'd vote for for President in '08. (My uncle is a little odd in that he votes all over the place, generally for independent candidates--Perot, Nader--but he did vote for Georgie--we're not sure why--and now he's all pissed off at him. He actually called him "the biggest piece of shit ever to occupy the office" at dinner yesterday, but I digress.)

If you have a second check out Russ' organization: http://www.progressivepatriotsfund.com/

Anyway--I like him and he's got my vote, my donations, and my time if he runs.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:42 AM
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5. He's a senator so they will twist his past votes into pretzels to
try to "swift boat" him. That's always a problem with being in the Senate. I prefer going after a governor myself but Feingold does look good, I must admit.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:46 AM
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8. does he look good on TV, is he glib, talks in sound bites? knows
how to dodge questions and pretend to answer without doing so? If so he will be a media darlin.

From what I have heard/read about him he seems to have content and integrity, which are turnoffs
to most media.

perhaps most importantly can he speak plain AMERICAN english like ordinary people or does he talk
in hundred word sentences when half a dozen effective words would be better?

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:57 AM
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14. They won't be able to swift boat him because
Feingold is able to explain every one of his votes. He votes on principles and is able to explain his actions in a clear and easy to understand way (a vast difference than Kerry).

There is a strong group supporting Sen. Feingold. Here are some links to check out...
Official Feingold sites:
http://www.russfeingold.org
http://feingold.senate.gov
http://www.progressivepatriotfund.com

National Feingold for President sites:
http://www.russforpresident.com
http://www.draftruss.com
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/RussforPresident

Other Feingold sites:
http://www.friendsoffeingold.com
http://www.njforfeingold.org
http://www.feingoldforillinois.com
http://feingoldformichigan.blogspot.com
http://tennesseansforfeingold.blogspot.com
http://www.foxforfeingold.org
http://forwardourmotto.blogspot.com

http://www.dailykos.com/user/Senator%20Russ%20Feingold


Here is part of an article recently written about Sen. Feingold. The part in bold shows why so many people support him.
On a possible presidential bid, Feingold said his decision would come down to whether he thought he could win in a general election - not just in the primaries - and then be effective in the White House.

Political watchers such as University of Virginia professor Larry Sabato point out that while Feingold's recent stands on civil liberties and the Iraq war may please liberal activists, they may well hurt his chances later on with moderate Democrats and conservatives.

The senator had a blunt answer.

"I don't care," he said. "Whatever political considerations I have are absolutely irrelevant to the decisions I make having to do with people's civil liberties and something as weighty as Americans risking their lives overseas. The day that I start think politically about those things is the day I should leave politics."
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:42 AM
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6. I had someone ask me this question
when I suggested Feingold for President...I did not know the answer...

Is Senator Feingold Jewish?
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:45 AM
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7. Feingold is Jewish
And like it or not, that's still a liability.

On the other hand, before JFK, many people were convinced that a Catholic could never get elected president. So maybe I should give the American people more credit. (It's hard to do so though, after the last few years, and remembering the Reagan years.)
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:50 AM
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12. I don't like the fact that it will affect his campaign.
He may have a good plan to over come this social barrier.......Sometimes, I think humanity is still primative....especially after experiencing the *bush administration.
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jane_pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:48 AM
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10. Yes, and bigoted idiots will have to grow up and get over it
already, or vote for whichever idiot the Republicans put up, or stay home. He's also divorced, but then, so is half the country so people will just have to deal with that too. He's also got a degree from Harvard. None of this seems to matter to the majority of people here in Wisconsin (which went blue but has many deeply red spots in it) so with any luck the rest of the country will wise up too.

(I'm not saying any of this would bother you, of course, just so you know.)
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:49 AM
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11. Feingold voted with the Republicans for impeachment trial
"Republicans, as expected, mustered all of their 10-vote majority in the Senate to defeat the Democratic attempt to dismiss the trial and approve the House managers' request for witness depositions.

Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold of Wisconsin was the only senator to cross party lines, voting with the Republicans on both motions."

<http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/01/27/impeachment.01/>

Feingold wanted to crucify Clinton over lying about a BJ meanwhile he now has 2 divorces. I hope Hillary rips this guys eyes out in the debates, if he makes it that far.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 12:07 PM
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18. It was a (almost anally) principled stance, I believe.
Let's be clear. A motion to DISMISS in any trial must be assessed presuming that all questions of fact are settled on the side of the prosecution and, even presuming that, the case does not meet a standard for conviction. Thus, to vote (in principle) that even if all the questions of fact are resolved against Clinton that the case doesn't merit removal from office would be technically unprincipled. The reason is that the standard for removal itself is not cut and dried ... i.e. it's not a matter of black letter law. As it turns out, the House Republicans weren't able to establish questions of fact on their side "by a preponderance of evidence" or "clear and convincing" or any standard, indeed. While most informed observers expected this (as I did), such an expectation wouldn't warrant dismissal, imho. In a case of impeachment, this is what the trial is all about.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 12:22 PM
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19. Be that as it may, it sends alarm bells to me
How could he not see the forest through the trees?

If he is so (almost anally) principled over that issue, wtf?

It's like being anti-war before the war: the issues were so obvious that those people who now come forward (like Hillary for example) and want to say "I was misled!" (or I was "principled") just aren't credible. Feingold is smart. He is certainly smart enough to have seen what the impeachment trial was all about.

Yet he voted for it.

I will say that if he's the Dem nominee, I'll vote for him but the impeachment vote really soured him for me.
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SkiGuy Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:48 AM
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9. I like him
Don't know much about him yet, but from what I do, I like him a lot.
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:52 AM
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13. He and Warner are my favorites right now.

I think that Warner is a bit more down with the rural voters than Feingold, but on the other hand Feingold has the lead on the civil liberties and privacy issues which I think is a big winner for whoever defends them.
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jackpan1260 Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:59 AM
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16. I agree. Warner and Feingold are my favorites too.
It is unfortunate that senators are hard to get elected lately, but his style and voting record are pretty good.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:58 AM
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15. He's a mixed bag, imho
He has a lot of pluses: an excellent speaker with real charm. He has all the right personal qualities, intelligence, and charismatic stuff to be a presidential candidate.

He was also the Senator to cross party lines and vote for Clinton's impeachment, plus he's Jewish (that still matters believe it or not to some people), and he's twice divorced, currently single.

I believe the country could get behind a Jewish candidate at this point, I'm not sure they would get behind a single guy. And real progressives will bay for his blood for voting for Clinton's impeachment.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 12:01 PM
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17. This post from Saturday impressed me
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 12:43 PM
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20. way better thean hillary !!
I like him a lot
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 12:45 PM
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21. I lub him.
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