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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:29 PM
Original message
Lori Price responds to rightwinger who says she will 'burn in hell'
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 04:06 PM by Lori Price CLG
Lori Price responds to rightwinger who says she will 'burn in hell'


Letter Lori Price received, 26 December 2005

----- Original Message -----
From: "snipped" charliec* (full name redacted)
To: "Lori R. Price"
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 4:03 AM
Subject: Burn in hell..............

You are a Jane Fonda type terrorist bitch!

Under Saddam's regime, if your slandered him as you do President Bush
you would have had your tongue cut out!

You will burn in hell for your devious ways!


Lori Price's reply, 26 December 2005

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lori R. Price"
To: "snipped"; Michael D. Rectenwald, Ph.D.; CLG Yahoo egroups
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: Burn in hell..............

Oh, you mean the Saddam Hussein that the CIA installed in a coup d'etat in
Iraq in 1979, after several previous failed coups?
The Saddam Hussein that Ronald Reagan (and Donald Rumsfeld) supplied with
(illegal) bacteriological and chemical weapons throughout the 1980's, to use
against the Iranians?
The '40-year veteran CIA asset' from: Saddam: We've ALWAYS had him By Eric Blumrich-- that Saddam Hussein?
Just curious.

BTW, Dictator Bush has *surpassed* Saddam Hussein in torture and terrorism -
no need to point to him regarding cutting out one's tongue.

As to you, maggot... (*I had to snip this line and the next, per DU Moderator. Please access the link, to read my full response. Thanks!)

Cheers,
Lori Price
Citizens For Legitimate Government

<snip>
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:30 PM
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1. You don't waste time mincing words, do ya?
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:45 PM
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14. I had to stop myself - I had more to say, LOL! n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:30 AM
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52. Good going!
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 01:31 AM by FreedomAngel82
I'm getting tired of these rightwingers, or as Thom Hartmann calls them reich wingers, telling me I'm anti-American and blah blah blah because I oppose an illegal occupation and stand for the Constitution. It's because of we liberals that they have everything! They're being so hypocritical with "oh we're bringing freedom to Iraq!!!" but uh not to me?
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:32 PM
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2. Way to go, Lori!
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:46 PM
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15. Thank you very much! n/t
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:33 PM
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3. That's fucking great.
You just made me feel better than I have all holiday.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:43 PM
Response to Reply #3
12. Wow, thank you very much! If you go to the webpage, you will
observe more to the trail, too!

Thanks again,
:)-Lori
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:26 PM
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26. I suppose you're familiar with this documentary, then:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0346091/

I was in Tallahassee in 2000. If you haven't seen it yet, it's guaranteed to get you pissed off about that "election" again.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:34 AM
Response to Reply #26
54. Oh yes
And Greg Palast has a great one too! You can see it at http://www.informationclearinghouse.info
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:34 PM
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4. Excellent, Lori!
Right down to the last paragraph! Do they realy think that we're all afraid of their meanie-weenie thoughts?

And just wait till their own kids backlash at them. We'll look like dessert compared to what their own kids will be saying to them.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:35 PM
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5. Good job! No backing down!
Some of these rightwingers are just too fricken easy!
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:35 PM
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6. Maggot - love it!
What we need to do is to put some massive billboards around our towns which says the following:-

UNDER PHOTO OF DONALD RUMSFELDT AND SADDAM HUSSEIN shaking hands



The Saddam Hussein that the CIA installed in a coup d'etat in
Iraq in 1979, after several previous failed coups?
The Saddam Hussein that Ronald Reagan (and Donald Rumsfeld) supplied with
(illegal) bacteriological and chemical weapons throughout the 1980's, to use
against the Iranians?
BTW, Dictator Bush has *surpassed* Saddam Hussein in torture and terrorism.

Thank you!


:evilgrin:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:37 PM
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7. You know what the response will be dontcha?
They will tell you that you just admitted that Sadaam DID have WMDs. Thus, dubya didn't lie us into the war.

I have had this argument with freepers before. It is a circular one.

Not to discourage you from trying. They are sinking and they know it. Now is the best time to argue with them.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:40 PM
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10. But Clinton bombed them and the inspectors got rid of them, too
And that's what happened to the WMD. The story doesn't end with Rummy and Raygun.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #10
18. Clinton actually did something besides Monica?
You know the freepers will NEVER admit that. LOL
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 11:25 AM
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66. Of course Hussein had WMDs
No one has ever argued that Hussein never ever in his reign possessed WMDs. He used them on Iranians in the war in the 80's, and on Kurdish resisters. The thing is, by the time 2002 rolled around, there was simplky nothing left to threaten anyone with. A decade of Scott Ritter's inspections, Clinton's targeted bombings, and the embargo essentially eliminated the threat. Bush's biggest lie was that Hussein was STILL a threat, when in reality he had nothing at all.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:39 PM
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8. Sounds like a fundy went to Dinner with the family..
and he got scared when he heard so many of them bashing der fuhrer!


He's angry and afraid and lashing out at the enemy on the internets.

:)
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:40 PM
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9. No retreat no surrender
Cmon freeps check out what's in my house, I've got no problem with the second either.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:42 PM
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11. Bravo!
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emald Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:44 PM
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13. the next civil war
BRING IT ON you asshat gopers. You support a lying empty headed shill who's stolen your comfortable country only you don't know it yet. Dumbass.
Yes, it is time for civil war.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:47 PM
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16. You Rock!!
:headbang:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:54 PM
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:47 PM
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17. Nice Job!
I love it.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:51 PM
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19. Sounds like this person is suggesting that God is worse than Saddam.
After all, Saddam will only cut out your tongue for expressing a dissenting view, whereas God will burn you in Hell for eternity.

I'd ask this person why he hates God so much that he thinks he's more evil and cruel than Saddam Hussein. It might induce some cognitive dissonance.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:52 PM
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20. Dudette! you rock
This hippie is armed too. Bring it on.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:54 PM
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21. You're a freedom-hating Rejectionist
:cheers:
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:55 PM
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23. Bravo!
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:12 PM
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24. this michael c rectenwald is a ph.d?
wow. to be a brilliant nitwit(!)....
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. Michael D. Rectenwald is the good guy - he was cc'd as he is...
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 04:17 PM by Lori Price CLG
the Founder and Chair of CLG (Citizens For Legitimate Government). (Yes, he's a Ph.D.)
He has called Bush a war criminal on Scarborough Country, and went head-to-head w. Pat Buchanan! :)

Lori
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #25
29. ah! i really outta pay more att'n! ;)
Also, Lori, great reply to the real nitwit (who probably not too brilliant, but that's neither here nor there!)...Mike Rectenwald speaks for many of us!
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #29
36. I can see why you thought that, I pasted the list from Outlook, so Mike R.
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 06:19 PM by Lori Price CLG
appeared to be the rightwinger, LOL!

:)-Lori

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:38 PM
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27. no reply after your last
letter I see. Facts can be radioactive for people who live on BS.
:thumbsup:
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:51 PM
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28. Wow! Bet his wig flew right off his ugly pointy head with that! nt
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Kralizec Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:01 PM
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30. Bravo, bravo! (nt)
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:17 PM
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31. (((((((((((((( Hugs )))))))))))))))))))) n/t
:hi:
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:46 PM
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32. I am Lori's predecessor on CLG
(former CLG webmistress)
CLG is a great resource and both Lori and Mike are awesome people who have worked tirelessly against the cabal since the original Coup 2K. Founder Mike Rectenwald is a brilliant man who has worked with others such as Greg Palast to get the truth out about the scumbags.

Great comeback Lori! Keep up the good work.
- Katie
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:48 PM
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OOOPs Dupe self delete
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 05:53 PM by kliljedahl
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:48 PM
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33. You kick ass lori
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #33
38. Thanks so much for your kind words, and Katie's, too!! :)
You guys rock, too!!
:)-Lori
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:57 PM
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34. You go girl, Lori!!!
:toast:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:02 PM
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35. I love people who refer to themselves in the third person
And people say I have a big ego.

*snicker*

Good response, by the way. William Rivers Pitt approves. :)
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:27 PM
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43. Thank you, and *peace!* --Lori n/t
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:09 PM
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37. i positively worship at your feet!
there's no smiley for that -- though there should be!
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:17 PM
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39. Great stuff.
Stick to those morans!!11 I'm series!!111
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #39
41. OMG, Rumsfeld looks just like Freiherr von Weichs, in that picture!! n/t
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Bushy Being Born Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:19 PM
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40. Is CLG advocating civil war?
You at least make it sound like you could warm to the idea. It seems a senseless thing to threaten with, and it made you lose some of the edge in an otherwise fine reply. That and 'maggot' is just sinking to their level.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #40
42. Not as an organization - but when I reply to a Freeper....
...all bets are off! :evilgrin:

Lori
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Bushy Being Born Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. Hehe... ok
When I'm in that mood, and responding to them in private, I personally enjoy to smack 'em down with an only partly faked superior attitude and hints of higher intelligence, since it plays right into their notion of us 'damned elitist libruls' and pisses them off even more. Insults are best left unacknowledged and met instead with hard facts, of which you of course had plenty here. And if it was a freeper I guess I can't blame you for hurling a few insults either. ;)

Thanks for your work Lori, I'm looking at your site now.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:09 AM
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57. And yet the ironic may be missed in the exchange
In a round-a-bout way the cusser may get to join the rest of us in the 'burn in hell' idealism. Between thermo-nuclear war and global warming I am guessing we already and all together are mostly screwed anyway. My pessimism serves me in the fact that sanity just seems so over-rated at any rate. The legend I hear is of Jim Morrison, of the Pop band Doors, upon the understanding of Einsteins theory of relativity, whaled out "Nobody gets out of here alive".

It seems that it's not where you draw line, but more of which side of the bread gets buttered.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:40 PM
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44. I shake your hand.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:20 AM
Response to Reply #44
47. Thank you for the kind words in this thread. BTW, he did write back:
Dear Jane (as in Fonda; this guy is so pathetic),

Yep, that's the one,,,,,,Saddam! But you need to deal in real time, not 1979.

Your "blame America first" attacks reach a new level of deja moo with each post. But thanks to people such as myself you have the legal right to make a fool out of yourself in public. Press on!
<snip>
_________________

My response:
Do you mean the "real time" torture going on in Iraq today under Dictator Bush, the real time gassing in Fallujah, or the real time illegal invasion of 2003? That real time? Or the real time installation of dictators around the world-- Islam Karimov, Pervez Musharraf, and Hosni Mubarak-- for example.

BTW, here's an article of interest: Rumsfeld 'offered help to Saddam' --Declassified papers leave the White House hawk exposed over his role during the Iran-Iraq war By Julian Borger 31 Dec 2002 The Reagan administration and its special Middle East envoy, Donald Rumsfeld, did little to stop Iraq developing weapons of mass destruction in the 1980s, even though they knew Saddam Hussein was using chemical weapons "almost daily" against Iran, it was reported yesterday.

Cheers,
Lori Price and MDR
CLG

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:15 AM
Response to Reply #47
48. BWHAHAHA! You are a goddess! Keep them scrambling. I salute
you!
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:42 AM
Response to Reply #48
56. You're not going to believe this, but maggot-face Charlie said he
was going to report me to my ISP, as I cc'd the Yahoo egroups, when I replied to him:

His comments:

Lori,

I sent a private email to you, and you forwarded it to the leftist "blame America first" crowd. What gives with that? Did I strike a nerve? sniff, sniff!

Some of your support coolies have emailed personal attacks against me of which I hold you responsible.

BTW; here's a link of interest: http://liberalscum.com/fonda.html

Regards,
Charlie

and, his last one:
You are a simple minded person that spins the facts! Take your political opinions and shove them!

Do not email me again with your harrassing (sic) emails. I will report you to abuse@snet!

____________________________
HE wrote to me, *unsolicited,* I replied, and he said I was 'harassing' him? LOL! :eyes:

My last replies:

***YOU*** cc'd the same egroups, moron!!
Hello, McFly?

As to 'holding me responsible,' LOL, your first ***unsolicited*** email to me was riddled with obscene language as well as threats of personal violence.

and:

Yeah, show them your DEATH THREATS against me, unsolicited, too. If you write me again, I am contacting law enforcement.
________________


:)-Lori



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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:32 PM
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46. Deleted message
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:17 AM
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49. Great reply n/t
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:22 AM
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50. Where, exactly, did you "slander" the Chimp?
I mean if these assholes are going to threaten violence (and a much warmer eternity) over such things, at least they could explain their stupid selves.
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:28 AM
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51. What a freeper FUCKTARD!!!!!!!!
Ok, let's ANALize this, shall we?!?!?! YEAH WE WILL!!!!!!

"You are a Jane Fonda type terrorist bitch!"

A. JANE FONDA WENT TO NAM...BU$Hitler and DICK and THE REST OF THESE SHITS, DID NOT! B. Some reichwinger calling ANYONE else a terrorist, gee, throw stones in your glass house much ya tuds!

"Under Saddam's regime, if your slandered him as you do President Bush
you would have had your tongue cut out!"

A. Didn't BU$Hitler and DICK run their 2000 crap campaign on being AGAINST NATION BUILDING?! Why YES, they did! B. Like we aren't all but a fucking dictatorship now under these assholes?! YES, THAT TOO IS TRUE!

"You will burn in hell for your devious ways!"

Oh please! WE ARE ALREADY IN HELL...BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SHARE THIS WORLD WITH ASSHOLE FREEPER RETARDS LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!

These freeper type losers who are probably real life incarnations of the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons make jacking off look like an olymic sport!!!!! GET A FUCKING LIFE AND CLUE YOU LOSERS!!!!!!!! Game, set, match, YOU LOSE! So just hang it up already and quit making yourselves out to look so RETARDED!!!! DUH!

Lori, you go girl! "And, not all Leftists are afraid of the Second Amendment." I 2ND THAT! So to speak...
You are by FAR a welcome addition to my yahoogroup *SHAMELESS PLUG!* http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LeftWingRadicals/join Oh yeah and Bruce Majors, EAT SHIT AND DIE SLIMEBAG!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAPPY ***HOLIDAYS***!!!!!!!!
Lu Cifer
PS 01-09-06! BA BA BOOIE TO Y'ALL!
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:31 AM
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53. Here's my response: I DONT BELIEVE IN HELL!
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:36 AM
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55. delete please
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 01:40 AM by Raydawg1234
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:41 AM
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58. how I would respond
"But I tell you 'love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you'" Matthew 5:44, and Luke 6:27

Does one become a terrorist and a b*tch because they try to stop slaughter and destruction? Yes, Saddam was not a nice leader, which is why it is too bad that our own government helped to put him in power and supported him and encouraged him to goto war with Iran. Fortunately in America we have freedom of speech which allows me to criticize Bush as it also allows Ann Coulter to Slander Democrats. In order for my criticism of Bush to be slander, it needs to be proven untrue, and you have provided no evidence for its untruth.

Will I burn in hell? Does it make you happy to believe that? Then apparently you are a clanging cymbal without the love of God "As surely as I live says the Sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live." Ezekiel 33:11 All have sinned, but my conscience is clear when I oppose Bush and his war based on lies. As Isaiah said his "hands are full of blood; wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed." Isaiah 1:15-17 Thanks for reading our website.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:05 AM
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59. This had 18 votes for greatest, but it's not listed on the page... ? n/t
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:21 AM
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60. Are you married?
I think I love you :loveya:
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:38 AM
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61. That's so sweet... :) -Lori
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:41 AM
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62. OMG, Charlie applied for membership in CLG'S 'Rev Tactics' egroup!
LOL!!!
He has as much chance of being approved as a cat with a long tail, in a room filled with rocking chairs!

I can't even let him in there for 'humor's sake,' and disable his posting privileges, as he could harvest our email addresses.

:)-Lori
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:45 AM
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63. Tell it like it is!
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 11:15 AM
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64. Foolish
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 11:21 AM by Donald Ian Rankin
You make some good points, but then you ruin it by claiming that "Dictator Bush has *surpassed* Saddam Hussein in torture and terrorism", enabling your readers to dismiss you as divorced from reality and ignore everything else you've said.

Undeniability is your friend. Hyperbole and overstatement are fatal in political debate. And while Bush has done many bad things, he's not even close to Saddam Hussein in terms of number or severity of people tortured.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:04 PM
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67. Really? I disagree. Hussein invaded Kuwait w. tacit approval...
of the US government(See April Glaspie's 1990 memos.) The US (2003) invaded Iraq with approval from NO ONE, save GOP and certain sycophant Democratic congresscritters. George W. Bush's Iraq invasion was state-sponsored terrorism. Along those lines, 'Shock & Awe' *alone* - not to mention - white phosphorous and depleted Uranium - killed (and maimed) more than Saddam Hussein ever did. Just because Faux News didn't report it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Moreover, the US government supplied Hussein w. the biological and chemical weapons that were used against the Kurds in the 1990s.

Hussein didn't ship suspects around the world to be tortured, as Bush has ('extraordinary rendition'). Of course, (CIA-installed) Saddam Hussein DID torture people, as the rightwingers can't wait to point out, every minute of every day. The point is, so do numerous dictators that the Bush regime installs/supports/funds, throughout the world.

Furthermore, the policies of Bush's corpora-terrorists are destroying the environment and killing people all over the world. Hussein never dreamed of establishing the far-reaching dictatorship - two stolen elections - that Bush has implemented.

Lori Price
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:10 PM
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68. Considering the * admin openly acknowledged torture
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 01:11 PM by kgfnally
I'd say it's accurate. The arrogance of that admission puts him far and away past Hussein's class of despotism.

Evildoers generally want their deeds hidden. * wants us to embrace the acts.

It would seem to me that doing it openly and expecting good people to go along with it is worse than "keeping it in the family."
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:13 PM
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70. Good point! Bush did acknowledge using torture; his underlings...
drafted documents to implement the policies, as well.
Lori
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 11:20 AM
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65. Hey, aren't we supposed to turn the other cheek?
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 11:21 AM by DancingBear
Hell, no - only if we want that one kicked, too.

Way to go, Lori!

:yourock:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:13 PM
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69. Touche and fantastic response!
:yourock:
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