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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:41 PM
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Is George Bush a Mad Emperor?
The Roman masses finally figured out that their highly eccentric Emperor, Caligula, was a raving lunatic when it was revealed that he was having lavish dinner parties in honor of his favorite horse and that he had even considered making it a Consul! Caligula’s reported incestuous relationships with his sisters was bad enough for them to stomach; the “horse thing,” however, became the tipping point. <2> Caligula had to go! He was soon replaced, in a palace-orchestrated coup de’ dictator, by the bookish Claudius. At that time, unfortunately for the batty Caligula, there wasn’t an “impeachment process” or “censure proceedings” in place, to hasten his exit in a peaceful and dignified manner from the then chaotic political scene in the Eternal City. <3>

There is more relevant history from the Ancients to ponder in this matter. The Roman Emperor Nero, also a seriously deranged man, was reported to have deliberately torched the city of Rome and played his fiddle while singing the ballad, “The Sack of Troy,” as it burned away. On the advice of palace intriguers (the Neocons of that era), he then scapegoated the Christians for the conflagration. Doesn’t that sound a lot like Bush’s scapegoating Saddam Hussein after that highly suspicious 9/11 tragedy? When the tide of public opinion turned against Nero, instead of hiring a fixer, (like a lobbyist Jack Abramoff or Michael Scanlon), to mount a PR counter offensive on his behalf, he took his own life. Nero’s last words, a la Woody Allen, were: “What a showman the world is losing in me!” <7> Bush isn’t a “showman” or a political leader either. He is a demigod, who is mocked nightly for his foolishness by comedians, like Jay Leno, David Letterman and Conan O’Brien.

http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/24335
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:44 PM
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1. Interesting, but I've always compared Bush to Caesar instead of Caligula
At least Bush hasnt done anything as stupid as Caligula like holding parties for his horse or making it a consul yet.

But just like Caesar, I'm waiting for the senate to rise up as one and slay him.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:02 PM
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12. actually, ceasar was a rather heroic figure....
history overlooks the fact ceasar became ceasar by recognizing that the people were being taken advantage of, and deciding to stop the 'corn barons' from ripping off the people, he, ceasar, unset the windfall profiteers, and it was agents of the profiteers among his friends who were able to murder him 'et tu brutus'? (and unleash his nephew, octavius later augustus, upon them).....btw somewhere in this early 'democratic' drama someone noticed that the 'rich' often their own worst enemy; it's better that countering forces are also at work to prevent the 'rich' from always overreaching, thus provoking civil unrest etc- julius ceasar was a classic case. Also, notice that it was ceasar whom history calls the 'tyrant' when he was really the advocate of the little people? Maybe the fact the upper class (ie the twits) are the ones who write/edit the history, the great books, and soon, and obscuring the politics which incidentally condemns the upperclass twittery might be instinctive, self servingly so(?)
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:48 PM
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2. He is Pretty Much There Right Now
This rich ignorant meritless brat is walking us into poverty, terror and further ignorance, just so he can make more money for his pals. How sick and shallow.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:51 PM
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6. you haven't seen the Bush's xmas video
where as the Bush's, Hadley, and the Cheney's are all conversing with the 2 dogs.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:50 PM
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3. He isn't cool enough to be mad.
He's just a dick with privilege and entitlement issues.
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:50 PM
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4. Was Bismarck a herring?
Chimpy is crazier than a shithouse rat. Wacked. Out to lunch. His train's gone round the bend. Nine cents short of a dime.

Julius Caesar should not be denigrated by comparing Chimpy to him. Caesar was a military genius, a solid administrator and deft politician. The Chimperor is just a dumbshit, booze and drug addled fratboy who does what he is told to do by his smarter and more evil handlers. He wouldn't have risen to the level of chamber-pot carrier in Caesar's army.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:50 PM
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5. Well, * did appoint a jackass to FEMA
So he's getting pretty close to the mark.
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:53 PM
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7. Good one!
And a pig is his chief political handler.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:58 PM
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9. have you seen this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi/newsid_4510000/newsid_4515500/bb_wm_4515524.stm


The Roman masses finally figured out that their highly eccentric Emperor, Caligula, was a raving lunatic when it was revealed that he was having lavish dinner parties in honor of his favorite horse and that he had even considered making it a Consul!
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:55 PM
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8. he did a good nero when katrina hit....
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:59 PM
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10. you bet he did
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:01 PM
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11. he is a madman but not an emperor
an emperor has to have an empire, the usa hasn't been an empire for decades since we are unable to actually invade anyone and acquire new property, indeed, we manage to lose property and wars at a pretty good clip

i'm satisfied w. he's a mad dictator, as dictators can win and lose

the family line thing muddies the waters but he is still to my mind a dictator rather than emperor

his madness is beyond question, there is nothing to be debated, the man is severely handicapped by his mental deficits to put it kindly
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:11 PM
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14. not so sure he's a complete dictator
but he sure is a dick!

:rofl:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:04 PM
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13. I've have said the same thing about Nero scapegoating
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 01:07 PM by Cleita
the Christians being the same as blaming Iraq and Saddam for 9-11 since Bush started his drumbeat to war. For more recent history, look at Hitler's scapegoating of the communists in the burning of the Reichstadt even though there is evidence that it was the Nazis who did so, helping a deranged fire bug, who also happened to be a communist, to burn it down.
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