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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:33 PM
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Rice authorized NSA to spy on UN Security Council in run-up to war
Rice authorized National Security Agency to spy on UN Security Council in run-up to war, former officials say
Jason Leopold

President Bush and other top officials in his administration used the National Security Agency to secretly wiretap the home and office telephones and monitored private email accounts of members of the United Nations Security Council in early 2003 to determine how foreign delegates would vote on a U.N. resolution that paved the war for the U.S.-led war in Iraq, NSA documents show.

Two former NSA officials familiar with the agency's campaign to spy on U.N. members say then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice authorized the plan at the request of President Bush, who wanted to know how delegates were going to vote. Rice did not immediately return a call for comment.

The former officials said Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld also participated in discussions about the plan, which involved "stepping up" efforts to eavesdrop on diplomats.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/After_domestic_spying_reports_U.S._spying_1227.html

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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:35 PM
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1. We think alike
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:40 PM
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6. Isn't this huge? These guys used wiretapping to monitor a vote
count at the UN - not spy on terrorists? Doesn't this prove that the wiretapping was used for other things than hunting for terrorists? Next, you will hear from some White House flunky who will admit that wiretapping was used against Kerry in 2004. But it is no big deal since they were protecting the country from Democratic terrorists.

God, how I hate what this bunch of candy ass, chickenhawk chickenshits have done to my country. Who on earth will ever believe anything the United States has to say as long as this bunch of asswipes are in DC? We are in more danger from our own government than we ever be from terrorists.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:44 PM
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8. It proves everything you just said
Let's also not forget that peace groups and anti-war groups were also spied on too.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:01 PM
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13. It should've been huge at the time
I remem,ber when this story came out at the time. I was shocked and disappointed that more wasn't made of it.

The fact that it may connect with the more recent controversy makes it even more shocking that it slipped under th radar.



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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:35 PM
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2. As did I, so there are at least three of them out there. N/T
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:35 PM
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3. I remember that when it was happening
they were spying on Germany and France
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:36 PM
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4. As we learned yesterday, she was National Security ADVISOR.
Another person was in charge of the NSA. Did they co-authorize it? Or did she, as and Advisor, authorize it? Or did the guy in charge authorize it?

Has anyone researched the bio of the head of the NSA at that time?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:38 PM
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5. Ouch! That's going to leave a mark!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:40 PM
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7.  Maybe she'll go down with the rest of them!
We can only hope. I have a feeling the illegal spying has no end. It's EVERYWHERE and THAT is why they went around the courts and Congress.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:53 PM
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9. Rice being involved up to her eyeballs would
make my heart take flight! She's been too suspect for too long with too many people praising her despite the web of lies she's been involved in. I want to see Condi go down with the rest of the evil cabal! :woohoo: :woohoo:
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shantipriya Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:54 PM
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10. Spying
No amount of revelation of wrong doing and other crimes is going to affect the Administration and the Shrub as long as we have spineless democrats and unbelievably loyal Repugs and of course the comatose public.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:17 PM
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16. People are waking up
when Barron's is calling for your impeachment, you know you're in deep shit.

January is going to be a very interesting month. Let's hope they don't try to pull another Pearl Harbor.


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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 01:57 PM
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11. I remember previous news about this--but Rice was never identified as
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 02:01 PM by Peace Patriot
authorizing it. Also, I think it involved the smaller countries that the Bush junta was trying to bully into agreement for its murderfest in Iraq. I'm trying to recall. Costa Rica sticks in my mind--central/south American countries, African countries and maybe eastern European countries. Somebody accused the junta of spying on them. That it was our major allies and members of the Security Council being spied upon, and that Rice was the war criminal who gave the order, is new. (I don't remember that it was France and Germany--but I could be wrong. So much was happening at the same time, in that UN situation. But Rice's involvement was most certainly not known.)

The rest of the world must be sorely tempted at this point, to remove the UN from our soil. It would be fun to see people like Bolton, Rice, Bush and Cheney, have to travel to the Hague, for instance, in order to give speeches to the UN (lecturing the UN on democracy!), or pull their other crap for undermining internation cooperation and destroying international law and order. They might just get arrested in the Hague!

(If they moved it, though, it would give the Bushites an excuse to pull out, which they may want to do. Not sure. They certainly would not want to set foot in the Hague--or in a number of foreign capitols--these days. A US pullout would be interesting--the entire world participating in the world's only democratic forum, except the U.S. Without the UN-wrecking Bushites in the Security Council, the rest of the world might just transform the UN into a collective powerhouse against our outlaw government.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:00 PM
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12. this is not new...I read about this "spying on diplomats" 1 yr. ago
I believe Paul Thompson might have had this. Spying on diplomats in hopes of finding dirt to bribe the U.N.into voting for the Iraqi war. How low would the Bush Crime Family go? So low they were willing to kill
as many as 50,000 Americans on Sept.11 2001 in order to advance their agenda.April 2001 James Baker laments,"how to shape public opinion" catastrophic and catalyzing attack was necessary,a New Pearl Harbor..
When bush declared he would allow a second U.N.Resolution vote to move forward he then released the spy dogs.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:04 PM
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14. Wow, great minds must think alike...
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 02:12 PM by EST
This creep, along with her co-conspirators, corrupts the NSA to achieve a bunch of juicy crimes, DeLay corrupts further the already slime-laden homeland security SS to pull off a contributing conspiracy.
Makes me long for those racy days when them there corrupt ol' democritturs were writing themselves expense account loans because they were too lazy to keep their paperwork caught up. Guess we need another republican revolution and contract on America.
:nuke: :puke:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:11 PM
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15. google
spying on un diplomats....lots of articles
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:35 PM
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17. I don't get it. This is Old,Old,Old news.
i remember reading about it and discussing it when it happened unless I have some serious mental illness.
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