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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:13 AM
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GOP Fundraiser: Clark doesn't support our troops.
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 08:17 AM by Bleachers7
This is some BS from NH. It shows how the pukes will paint the $87 billion. "A commander that doesn't support our troops." I would tell Mr. Petrone that he is a thoughtless sheep that is just a yes man for the Bushies.

http://www.politicsnh.com/archives/pindell/2003/october/10_21.shtml

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Clark repeatedly told voters that he “wouldn’t have gone into Iraq,” and he was proud of Sens. Bob Graham and John Kerry for voting against the $87 billion proposal.

Joseph Petrone, of Dublin, a former ambassador to Geneva, World War II veteran and current GOP fundraiser and Bush supporter, said Tuesday afternoon that he was “shocked” to hear a commander would deny support to troops.

“It’s really got me dismayed,” Petrone said. “I’m an old soldier. “I’ve seen a lot, but I’ve never seen any commanders who would deny resources for the troops, I’ve never run into that one.”

Clark is scheduled to give a major economic address Wednesday in Manchester.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:15 AM
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:17 AM
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2. Somebody should tell these assholes
that almost none of the $87 billion will go to help the troops in any way.
If Bush gave two shits about the troops, he wouldn't have them over there right now, and he definately wouldn't have extended their tours.

The political climate is getting FUCKING SCARY. The other day, on CNN, I heard, "How should those who voted against the president be punished?"



WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS GOD DAMNED COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:20 AM
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3. One more thing. If Bush supports our troops...
Why did he send them there short on food and water?
Why did he lie about the evidence of the war?
Why is he cutting VA benefits and closing VA hospitals?
Why will he veto a draft that will really support our troops? (I am not saying I support the draft.)
Why was he AWOL in Vietnam?

These guys are slimeballs. :puke:
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OldSoldier Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:37 AM
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7. I'll tell you exactly what the fuck is wrong with it
The God Damn Republican Party is the Mafia. They will Do anything, Say anything, to maintain their hold on power.

They will allow Black Box Voting Machines that have uncertifiable programs running them. That's right, uncertifiable. There is no way, no how, that a program which uses mechanisms that are considered trade secrets should ever, ever be allowed to be used to tabulate votes.

They will allow people who have been designated to certify elections to serve as campaign managers for people whose elections they are being asked to certify.

They will run on one platform then implement a completely different one once they're elected.

They will rig the media in this country so no dissenting opinion will be allowed access to the public.

And when all else fails, they'll just shoot the messenger. Google "Danny Casolaro." Google PROMIS. Tell me that wasn't a GOP hit.

A Republican once told me that the only thing that would save this country is a new Revolution. He was absolutely right. Only when every Republican currently working for the government or the Party, along with everyone who has ever given more than $10,000 to the Party in his or her life, is rounded up and locked away in prison will we ever get our country back. We have no prisons large enough to hold them? The British had a similar problem centuries ago; they created Australia to solve it. We have the Badlands; we could turn the whole of the Badlands into Republican Australia, move the decent people to a Republican-free section of the country, fence it off and build a replica of the Berlin Wall to keep them in.
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BJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:26 AM
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4. Just finished reading BuzzFlash Gene Lyons interview.
That's pretty much what Lyons says the Repugs will say aboutClark.

Most of that $87 bil isn't going to the troops anyway. It's going to big defense contractors.

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PeriRies Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:39 AM
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9. That's true to some degree
Companies like KBR are receiving a chunk of that funding but that's simply because of the direction the military has been heading since the last Gulf War. More and more essential support services like food and housing have been sub-contracted out to private defense contractors. It's been a good arrangement at times because it puts more highly qualified and experienced people in key logistics positions, but it has backfired too in cases where civilians have refused to enter some of the less stable areas of Iraq. I think the DoD will have to rethink this issue in the near future. You don't want to have your troops completely dependent on civilians to bring food and water to the front.
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BJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:50 AM
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11. Kellogg Root & Brown messhall service...
...has left the soldiers in the field eating MREs because as civilian workers they don't have to go in harms way. Civilian workers can also quit whenever they feel like it.
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onestepatatime04 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:33 AM
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5. misinformed?
i think that possibly patrone was misinformed to a certain extent, altho i'm sure i'm giving him a huge benefit of the doubt. i respect any individual who has served for our country to some extent, but i think patrone (among a hundred other individuals) that clark is a highly educated general and would not just say that this money is being wasted. when people like patrone are bogging down our conversations with thoughtless support for iraq its kind of comical to most of us democrats, but persuades a lot of others into beleiving without a reasonable backup. it scares me that there is a large chunk of voters like that. i think they need to be informed of more information on the matter.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:37 AM
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8. Welcome
:hi::toast:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 11:12 AM
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12. Hi onestepatatime04!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:36 AM
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6. Bush says he is going to veto the $87 billion - what the hell?
This country is screwed if people buy everything they are told by the right wing liars.
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OldSoldier Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 08:49 AM
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10. Congress apparently didn't rubber stamp it
Attention Democratic Candidates: make up a "report card" style campaign ad, put Bush's name at the top of it and write "does not work and play well with others" in the Comments block.
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