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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:02 PM
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Racism? Jr. Seau, meet Fuzzy Zoeller.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/10/22/sports1623EDT0275.DTL

Dolphins linebacker Junior Seau insists he meant no harm when he suggested the way to stop former teammate LaDainian Tomlinson is to feed him fried chicken and watermelon.

Tomlinson, whose Chargers face the Dolphins on Monday night, could not immediately be reached for comment. The Dolphins had no immediate word on whether Seau would be disciplined for the remark.

Asked Wednesday how to limit Tomlinson, San Diego's running back, Seau told reporters: "You give him watermelon and load him up with fried chicken and tell him to keep eating."

Seau, who is of Samoan descent, later said he and Tomlinson, who is black, are friends and the comment was meant in jest. Seau was wearing a Tomlinson jersey when he made the comment.

"We ate that all the time. We'd have fried chicken every Friday," Seau said. "I'm sorry you guys took it that way. I should have realized it was an oversight on my part. I'm sorry it came out that way."

(snip)

When Tiger Woods won the Masters in 1997, golfer Fuzzy Zoeller created a stir by saying: "Tell him not to serve fried chicken next year ... or collard greens, or whatever the hell they serve."

Zoeller was referring to the Masters' champions dinner, when the reigning tournament winner chooses the menu.

You know, I can't help but wonder if it had been, for example, Zach Thomas who had made this remark if he'd still have a job.

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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:12 PM
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1. Will be interesting


To see how this plays out. Junior is a bit eccentric, but I take him for a good guy. I think this is just Junior's brain going on hiatus for a few minutes.

Fuzzy was a elitist golfing snob who has to be seriously questioned when taking shots at black people.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:16 PM
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2. Junior say's they are good friends
who while playing together whould get together every Friday Night and eat Fried Chicken and Watermellon... Maybe...just maybe..they actually did.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:17 PM
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3. I see zero evidence of that
Fuzzy was a elitist golfing snob who has to be seriously questioned when taking shots at black people.

I've never seen anything about him, either directly or in comments from other golfers, that indicate his statements were anything other than made in jest, or that he is an 'elitist snob' in anything.

Why would you think Jr. is a good guy whose brain went on hiatus but not Zoeller?
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:47 PM
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15. Junior is a bit eccentric.....
And he's also a bit overrated as a player. Actually, he's very overrated.
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displacedvermoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:17 PM
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4. Actually Jason Taylor, his black teammate, is also Zack Thomas'
brother-in-law. Very doubtful he'd make such a comment! I'm sure he wouldn't, but I'm also sure that if he did, he, too, would keep his job. It is just the way things go when you are a professionl athlete.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:19 PM
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5. I think you are mixing apples with oranges
Friend can and do rag each other. Zoeller didn't have this type rapport with Tiger.

Jr. and Tomlinson are friends.

Fuzzy and Tiger were competitors.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:23 PM
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6. Ah, but racist comments are racist comments, aren't they?
Jr. and Tomlinson are competitors as well, and Zoeller was reputed to be a good-natured, goofy prankster on the tour.

Rather than apples and oranges, I see this rather more as sauce for the gander.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:24 PM
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7. If a black man says "nigger" is it racist?
(insert Jeopardy theme music)
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:35 PM
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10. I'll look around here for a Samoan and ask him.
Until then, what does that have to do with Seau?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:43 PM
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12. does junior consider himself caucasion?
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:47 PM
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16. I highly doubt it; he's Samoan.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:48 PM
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18. I know he's Samoan
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 06:52 PM by CatWoman
but how would you think Samoan's classify themselves?
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 07:02 PM
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19. Not as blacks.
I've known a few when I lived in San Diego, and not one of them considered himself as anything other than Samoan.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:26 PM
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8. Yes, they are competitors
but they are still friends.

Which was not the case with Fuzzy and Tiger.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:26 PM
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9. I think they're friends
and friends are alolowed to give each other shit. For anyone hunting a reason to be offended, this'll do.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:40 PM
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11. OK, fine. So what if one of Tomlinson's white friends had said it?
Would it still be an acceptable reason?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:44 PM
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13. You'd have to ask Tomlinson
Personally, I'd say no.

But let's wait. If they do, in fact, often eat fried chicken and watermelon together, where's the crime here?
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:45 PM
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14. None, it that's the case.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 07:03 PM
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20. So we wait and see
If Tomlinson comes out angry, I'll side with him. If he laughs, then...
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:47 PM
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17. ummmmmmmmmmmmmm chicken...............................................
watermelon............................................

:9
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 07:08 PM
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21. Is this guy Samoan?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 07:14 PM
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22. goddamit, Tru
you got me good!!!!!

ROFL!!!!!!!

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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 07:18 PM
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23. Tomlinson said he laughed when he heard Seau's words.
"I wasn't offended at all," Tomlinson said. "You just have to know Junior. He's silly like that."

CASE CLOSED!

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/20031022-1612-fbn-seau-tomlinson.html
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 07:20 PM
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24. Yah Cat...
We've kind of slacked off on our OJ's...;-)
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