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mkregel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:08 PM
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Anyone have a Dean/Clark Issue Comparison?
I'm guessing it will be really close...but anyone ever do a compare contrast?

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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:09 PM
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1. Just posted this somewhere. It lists all the candidates issues
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mkregel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:11 PM
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2. Kewl...here goes
DEAN


Affirmative Action

Supports affirmative action policies


Gay marriage

No public position, but opposes DOMA and backs civil unions


Gays in the military

Favors allowing homosexuals to serve openly in military


Gay adoption

Supports adoption by homosexuals


Hate crime legislation

Define racial profiling as discrimination


Compare this with all candidates


TOPIC

POSITION


National Missile Defense

Divert some NMD money for nonproliferation effort


Increase size of Army

More troops to Iraq and Afghanistan; promises world's "strongest military"


Program budgets

Raise pay, benefits of troops, veterans to previous levels


Compare this with all candidates


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POSITION


Drilling in ANWR

Opposes oil exploration in Arctic refuge


Alternative fuels

Develop renewable energy sources; foster efficiency


Energy policy

Undo Bush policies; end conflicts of interest; open energy market


Gas mileage requirements

End SUV gas mileage exemptions; give conservation incentives


Compare this with all candidates


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POSITION


Drug costs

Supports re-importation of prescription drugs from Canada


Medicare solvency

Guarantee Medicare funding for retirees


Prescription drugs benefit

Supports benefit legislation pending in Congress


Nationalized health care

Add programs to expand coverage, not full nationalization


Sue HMOs

Dismisses this issue to focus expanding health coverage


Compare this with all candidates


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POSITION


Enemy combatants

Against military tribunals, labeling of "enemy combatants"


Patriot Act

Repeal parts of Patriot Act that restrict basic liberties


Immigration

Protect immigrants' rights; allow more to become citizens


Intelligence agencies

Call for inquiries on agencies' failings, work with others


Compare this with all candidates


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POSITION


War in Iraq

Opposed U.S.-led war from the outset


Iraqi reconstruction

Increase international cooperation, role in Iraq


Pre-emption policy

End President Bush's "first strike" policy


Afghanistan

Backed invasion; calls for more resources, troops


Middle East

Become more fully engaged with Israelis, Palestinians


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POSITION


Abortion

Supports a woman's right to an abortion


Death penalty

Apply only for extreme crimes; calls for inquiry into system


Drug policy

Do not decriminalize drugs, but drug use public health issue


Gun control

Keep federal laws; improve enforcement; give states leeway


Education reform

Calls NCLB Act a "huge unfunded mandate"


Supreme Court

Appoint judges based on experience and merit, not litmus tests


Compare this with all candidates


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POSITION


Social Security

Guarantee Social Security funding for retirees


State fiscal crisis

Boost aid to states, cities for homeland security


Tax cuts

Repeal Bush tax cuts; offer health care tax credit


Budget deficits

Steer the nation back toward a balanced budget


Job creation

Invest in job-creating infrastructure (roads, schools, etc.)


CLARK

Affirmative Action

Backs affirmative action in principle; not set on approach


Gay marriage

Backs civil unions with full rights, but not same-sex marriages


Gays in the military

Reconsider "don't ask, don't tell"; let military decide policy


Gay adoption

No public position


Hate crime legislation

No public position


Compare this with all candidates


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POSITION


National Missile Defense

No public position


Increase size of Army

Consider increasing size of armed forces


Program budgets

Boost benefits, pay for members of "over-committed" military


Compare this with all candidates


TOPIC

POSITION


Drilling in ANWR

Opposes oil exploration in Arctic refuge


Alternative fuels

Push renewable energy sources (solar, wind, waves, etc.)


Energy policy

Diversify energy sources, including solar, wind, wave and nuclear


Gas mileage requirements

No public stance


Compare this with all candidates


TOPIC

POSITION


Drug costs

No public position


Medicare solvency

No public position


Prescription drugs benefit

Backs prescription drug program for seniors, no plan


Nationalized health care

Backs insurance for all but not with single-payer program


Sue HMOs

No public position


Compare this with all candidates


TOPIC

POSITION


Enemy combatants

No public position, but critical of lost liberties


Patriot Act

Act needs thorough, public review before making any changes


Immigration

Says he's "very pro-immigration," bring in world's elite to spur U.S.


Intelligence agencies

Do not mix intelligence, policy; conduct thorough reviews


Compare this with all candidates


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POSITION


War in Iraq

Offered varied positions on war resolution; says he wouldn't have "entered this campaign"


Iraqi reconstruction

Invest time, resources so reconstruction, reform succeeds


Pre-emption policy

Reserve right to strike, but military action always last resort


Afghanistan

Resolve "unfinished business" militarily, economically


Middle East

Enhance role of Egypt, Jordan, other neighboring nations in talks


Compare this with all candidates


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POSITION


Abortion

Supports a woman's right to an abortion


Death penalty

Endorsed moratorium; cases should be reviewed with DNA evidence


Drug policy

Against decriminalizing marijuana


Gun control

Supports assault weapons ban but opposes most federal gun control


Education reform

Boost teacher pay; improve student/teacher ratios


Supreme Court

Would nominate justices with moderate views


Compare this with all candidates


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POSITION


Social Security

No specific plan; opposes increasing retirement age


State fiscal crisis

$40 billion for states, cities, eyeing college costs, training workers


Tax cuts

Reduce Bush tax cuts for households making more than $200,000


Budget deficits

Balance budget; lower long-term public debt


Job creation

$40 billion for infrastructure, $20 billion for small business tax credits

Wish I could have made it prettier....

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:37 PM
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13. A clarification on Dean and gay marriage
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 06:40 PM by wyldwolf
Gay marriage

No public position, but opposes DOMA and backs civil unions


In December 1999, the Vermont Supreme Court ruled that Vermont was "constitutionally required to extend to same-sex couples the common benefits and protections that flow from marriage under Vermont law." The court instructed the legislature to grant gays "inclusion within the marriage laws themselves or a parallel 'domestic partnership' or some equivalent statutory alternative."

Given that choice, Dean took the more conservative option. According to the Associated Press, Vermont's lieutenant governor and House speaker supported gay marriage, but Dean didn't. Gay marriage "makes me uncomfortable, the same as anybody else," Dean said at the time. He did encourage the legislature to pass a civil unions bill. But the alternative he averted was legalizing gay marriage, not preventing gay domestic partnerships.

Many supporters of the bill criticized Dean for signing it "in the closet," in private and without a ceremony.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2086952

That action has prompted a few reporters to ask Dean about his support for such a law at the national level. His answer has been virtually the same in all cases -- he is opposed. Why would he oppose a national law that he felt justified in endorsing for his state? Because he apparently believes that the federal government has no right to intervene in state decision-making.

http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/8387

I believe his anti-war stance (at least at the beginning) is also a myth.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:12 PM
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3. well
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 06:13 PM by Capn Sunshine
Dean---TOTALLY Right

Clark--wrong about everything.

>the preceeding is a joke. I have to do that for the Clark supporters.]

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:13 PM
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5. Nice response
:eyes:
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:16 PM
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8. I think there's a 12-Step program for that. n/t
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:12 PM
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4. Clark hasn't articulated all his positions on the issues yet
so it's not really possible to do a comprehensive comparsion at this time.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:15 PM
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7. I think they are working on it
The Clark people indicated once they were on speaking terms with their webmasters again they would get that info posted lickety-split
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:17 PM
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9. Don't quit your day job
I don't think standup comedy is going to work out for you.
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:17 PM
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10. I'm not talking about listing the positions on the website
I'm talking about addressing them in general, though it'd sure be nice if they were listed on the website (in a form other than speech transcripts or summaries).
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:31 PM
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12. I think you are Very Funny!
:D
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:14 PM
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6. Two Big Ones
1) On their tax plans, Clark advocates for a repeal of only that portion of Bush's tax cut on the wealthiest 2%, or those making $200,000 per year or more. This creates a higher effective marginal rate on the rich while keeping marginal rates on the middle-class and the poor lower. In contrast, Dean would repeal ALL of Bush's tax cut, effectively raising taxes on the middle-class and the poor.

2) On the military budget, Clark has expressed willingness to cut up to 25% of it (mostly from the Air Force), in addition to shifting budget priorities. Dean has indicated he is only willing to shift budget priorities.

In both of these instances, Clark is taking the more liberal position.

I am not aware of any other significant differences in their positions as expressed to date.

DTH
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Bertrand Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:20 PM
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11. Clark is for lifting the embargo on Cuba
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 06:28 PM by Bertrand
and engaging them while Dean is for keeping it in place.


Edit: added "keeping it in place" for clarificiation
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:41 PM
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14. Clark's positions are up on the website now:
Edited on Wed Oct-22-03 06:41 PM by BillyBunter
http://www.clark04.com/issues/

Two left, one of them being foreign policy, the other healthcare. He is actually fairly detailed, unlike a certain other 'experienced politician' has been.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-03 06:47 PM
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15. Tax cuts cancelling- Clark would only repeal the ones for the rich
Also, today talked about closing loopholes, ending corporate welfare.
Also, I think Clark intends to work WITH the congress.
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