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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:24 AM
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(F)or (A)ll (S)ilent (C)owards (I)ndirectly (S)upporting (T)reason....
Edited on Sun Oct-26-03 01:25 AM by TruthIsAll
(R)emember (O)ur (V)ote's (E)verything...
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:29 AM
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1. (F)reepers (A)gainst (R)easoned (T)hought
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:30 AM
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2. (F)ake (U)n-(C)hristian (K)lan
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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:34 AM
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3. (D)emocrats (E)mbracing the (A)sshole (D)runk
Edited on Sun Oct-26-03 01:36 AM by Flying_Pig
DINO's. Their extinction should be encouraged.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:35 AM
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4. I wonder what the Responsible Right
thinks of the word FASCIST? Would they be offended if we accused their party of being that? To be exact, the Republican party is as far from BushInc as the Democrats are. BushCo is a party unto itself. It's just hijacked a party called the Republicans, so it can do its dirty deeds, hopefully with some support along the way.

Don't believe it? All you have to do is look up the definition of Fascism in the dictionary and it describes a party of the extreme right. Several threads have been posted here, they tell the whole story.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:40 AM
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7. Doesn't matter what they think...
They are fascism....

http://csf.colorado.edu/envtecsoc/2003/msg00700.html

The 14 Defining
Characteristics Of Fascism

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos,
slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen
everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
TOP

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights -
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in
fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in
certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other
way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations,
long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. TOP

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need
to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or
religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists,
etc. TOP

4. Supremacy of the Military -
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is
given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the
domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are
glamorized. TOP

5. Rampant Sexism -
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-
dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made
more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homo-sexuality are suppressed and
the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family
institution. TOP

6. Controlled Mass Media -
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in
other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government
regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives.
Censorship, especially in war time, is very common. TOP

7. Obsession with National Security -
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the
masses. TOP

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined -
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion
in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious
rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when
the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the
government's policies or actions. TOP

9. Corporate Power is Protected -
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are
the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a
mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
TOP

10. Labor Power is Suppressed -
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a
fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or
are severely suppressed. TOP

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts -
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher
education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other
academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the
arts and letters is openly attacked. TOP

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment -
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to
enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses
and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is
often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in
fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption -
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and
associates who appoint each other to government positions and use
governmental power and authority to protect their friends from
accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national
resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright
stolen by government leaders. TOP

14. Fraudulent Elections -
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other
times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even
assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control
voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of
the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to
manipulate or control elections.

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:17 AM
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10. I don't believe that. If they are so far apart, why are they all marching
in lock-step with Bush? This is yet more propaganda.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:38 AM
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5. (N)o(A)rmed(Z)one(I)s(S)afe
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:39 AM
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6. (N)ot (A)ll (Z)at (I)nterested
I give myself an A for effort, in my current position.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 09:31 AM
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8. THIS is fascism
The 70th anniversary wasn't noticed in the United States, and was barely reported in the corporate media. But the Germans remembered well that fateful day seventy years ago - February 27, 1933. They commemorated the anniversary by joining in demonstrations for peace that mobilized citizens all across the world.

It started when the government, in the midst of a worldwide economic crisis, received reports of an imminent terrorist attack. A foreign ideologue had launched feeble attacks on a few famous buildings, but the media largely ignored his relatively small efforts. The intelligence services knew, however, that the odds were he would eventually succeed. (Historians are still arguing whether or not rogue elements in the intelligence service helped the terrorist; the most recent research implies they did not.)

But the warnings of investigators were ignored at the highest levels, in part because the government was distracted; the man who claimed to be the nation's leader had not been elected by a majority vote and the majority of citizens claimed he had no right to the powers he coveted. He was a simpleton, some said, a cartoon character of a man who saw things in black-and-white terms and didn't have the intellect to understand the subtleties of running a nation in a complex and internationalist world. His coarse use of language - reflecting his political roots in a southernmost state - and his simplistic and often-inflammatory nationalistic rhetoric offended the aristocrats, foreign leaders, and the well-educated elite in the government and media. And, as a young man, he'd joined a secret society with an occult-sounding name and bizarre initiation rituals that involved skulls and human bones.

more...

http://www.vcn.bc.ca/srsnetbc/mar02home/thomhartman.htm
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 10:02 AM
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9. Great article!! I printed it out and handed it to coworkers who needed it.
Many don't understand how dire the situation is and dismiss urgency as unwarranted dramatics or obsession or any of the many intellectual anaesthetics dispensed by TV-world.

Articles like this detail how IT CAN HAPPEN HERE AND IT IS!!

I opened a few minds at work with this one. Thanks for re-posting.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:35 AM
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11. The vast majority of Americans have never heard of the Reichstag fire..
Anyone with an open mind who reads this will surely never be the same..
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:53 AM
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12. Also, it became apparent that the Dutch terrorist had help.
Later investigation of the incident pointed to many arsonists setting fires in many locations of the Reichstag. The fire set by the Dutch arsonist could not have spread as wide or as quickly without help. Of course it is believed that it was Hitler's SA who provided the helping hand, while he and his cadre where having dinner elsewhere.
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