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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:56 AM
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Wash Times: Blacks show interest in Dean
Edited on Sun Oct-26-03 01:10 AM by pruner
Blacks show interest in Dean

By Brian DeBose
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Democratic candidate Howard Dean's medical degree and opposition to the war in Iraq are attracting black politicians to his presidential campaign, even as analysts say he lacks the political network to win the black vote.
    
Among would-be black voters, Mr. Dean, a licensed internist, has an advantage over his Democratic rivals on health care issues, said David Bositis, chief researcher for the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, a think tank specializing in issues of interest to blacks.
    
Health care has ranked high for several years in the center's annual national poll of issues important to blacks, Mr. Bositis said.

"(The numbers have) been going up as health care issues have become bigger for the African-American community, with AIDS, diabetes, hypertension on the rise for the past four years," he said, adding that Mr. Dean's medical background made him a more credible candidate on health care issues among blacks.
    
<snip>
    
Of even greater interest to black voters is the former Vermont governor's staunch opposition to the Iraq war, said Rep. Major R. Owens, New York Democrat, who has endorsed Mr. Dean.
    
<snip>.

National polls have shown that blacks have opposed the war 4-to-1.

<snip>

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20031025-111005-2934r.htm
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:01 AM
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1. I love to hear good news about Dean...
...but would it be possible to find a source for this other than the Moonie Times?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:38 AM
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2. Wait wait...analysts say he lacks the political network
Damn, and I had just contributed money to Dean's campaign. Well it's right there in the Washington Times, that analysts say it.

And it's clear from the use of the plural that it wasn't just ONE analyst either. TWO OR MORE analysts have analyzed Dean's campaign and rendered this analysis. And although they are unnamed, the analysts could be very experienced and knowledgable on political matters. Or perhaps Analyst #1 is extremely knowledgable and #2 one is "on his way up", being mentored by #1 but unfortunately losing some critical independence in his point of view as a result.

So FUCKING IGNORING this insight could actually be foolish, in some totally and pathetically subservient parallel universe (and DJcairo could be right after all).
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:56 AM
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3. Getting the feeling that Rove and Co. would like Dean as the candidate????
Yet???

Mmmm....Washington Times(moonie paper) helping Dean along with Black voters???? The polls don't show it. I'm black, and not about to support a candidate that will lose in the General Election.

I hope someone puts on their thinking cap before it's too late.

I like Dean...but not enough to serve him up to Bush for 4 more years of Bushco.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:06 AM
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4. Um...I was being sarcastic
I don't care what Rove wants; come Jan. '05 his title will be reduced to Guest Lecturer. Dean will not only beat Bush in '04 it will be a landslide.

Ya heard it here first.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 07:12 AM
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16. sarcasm is lost on Dean haters
FYI
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 03:48 AM
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5. Good god man follow your heart.
Fuck Rove and anything he wants.
Dean is totally electable, the mood in this country has changed dramatically.

When do we follow through with a movement being created from the bottom up. Common folks are making this happen and how could we live with ourselves if we don't follow through and pussy foot around worrying what the contemporary beliefs are. We have got to see beyond the media influence. THIS IS OUR GOVERNMENT!

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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 03:54 AM
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6. From another Arizonan
I totally agree :hi: from Mesa.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 03:56 AM
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7. Could somebody make a list of "unelectable" candidates?
I'd really love to read it.
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ryharrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:12 AM
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8. I'll take a guess at their answer-
Dean, Gephardt, Lieberman, Braun, Sharpton, Kucinich, Edwards, and probably Kerry. The only way Kerry would sneak by is because he is such a macho military guy like our savior Clark.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:16 AM
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9. I was thinking more in terms of
people like Clinton, Carter, Kennedy (a Catholic can't be President!), and Truman (Dewey will beat him in a landslide!).
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ryharrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:35 AM
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11. Don't forget that socialist cripple
FDR. He'd never have a chance at a single election, let alone being re-elected(3 times).
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:38 AM
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12. How could I forget
that Neanderthal freak Abraham Lincoln?
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Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:30 AM
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10. Where's your opinion???
3. If you post an article or other published content which is from a conservative source or which expresses a traditionally conservative viewpoint, you must state your opinion about the piece and/or the issues it raises.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=463744

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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:44 AM
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13. IMO…
the article I posted comes from a conseravtive source, but doesn't display a conservative bias itself.

as such I saw no reason to comment on it.
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Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:47 AM
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14. I respect your answer, but I clicked on the thread for your opinion
Edited on Sun Oct-26-03 04:49 AM by Bushfire
as I wouldn't trust the Wash Times to wrap fish. To each their own.

on edit: it is well known the GOP is pushing Dean to win the primary.
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:57 AM
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15. minorities have been well represented at all the Dean events I've been to
as such, I dispute the notion that Dean doesn't attract blacks, etc.

I think that if the GOP is pushing Dean to win the primary it shows how dumb they are.

if you think it means that Dean is unelectable, I think you give the GOP too much credit.
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phirili Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 07:24 AM
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17. Repugs push Dean
every which way they could
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 07:40 AM
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18. Exellent!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 08:12 AM
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20. Hi phirili!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 07:53 AM
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19. A major reason Dean did not "show well" in the
African American community is due to the digital divide. But Dean supporters are constantly working on minority outreach ideas at meetups and via the get local tools. Good to see it is finally kicking in, and Black folks are finally taking a look at our man, Howie.
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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:15 AM
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21. Locking
3. If you post an article or other published content which is from a conservative source or which expresses a traditionally conservative viewpoint, you must state your opinion about the piece and/or the issues it raises
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=463744

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