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demdogg Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:10 PM
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We Should, ALL Vote By ABsentee Ballot.
Spread the word, circumvent Diebold, Squoia,and ESS/..We can do this...Think about it,Can't WE??
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:19 PM
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1. I agree. I think that's the only solution. And keep a certified copy.
We have to make our own paper trail, if our 'leaders' don't care about our right to vote.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:22 PM
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2. yup
I agree! Now, how does this get out to every dem who will vote? The media sure as hell won't help spread the word.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:26 PM
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3. Not legal.
I don't know about other states, but in IL you have to sign an affidavit saying you will not be in your place of residence, or that there will be some other reason (surgery, hospitalization, disability, etc.) that you cannot physically present yourself at your regular polling place. I can't imagine that absentee rules elsewhere are tremendously different.

Nice try, though. :)
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:28 PM
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4. In Washington State we can vote by mail
in fact we have the highest absentee rate in the nation something like 80% of all voters vote by mail.
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:29 PM
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5. I think if you volunteer on election day for the day and you will not be
at your regular polling place you can vote absentee. Good reason to get out there and volunteer!!
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:41 PM
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6. One Step in the Process
IF you can vote absentee and otherwise would have to use touch screens without a voter-verified paper ballot, then by all means do so.

Just be aware that optical scan counting programs can be hacked and that it will take a lot of people power to mandate recounts and pay for them. We have to LOOK at the paper ballots, too.

Check your state laws and make sure you can get a recount any time you want if you pay for it. Thanks to medling by The Election Center who has help states "craft" election law, in some states even IF you have a paper ballot, you're not allowed to use it.

Get those legislative changes going now!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :hi:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 07:08 PM
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19. Same here in Colorado...
I really like the convenience of it!

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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:57 PM
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10. and how can they prove that you weren't?
and let them try to verify a million people. They can't.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 06:19 PM
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16. In Fla
We can vote absentee for any or no reason at all, just personal preference.
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:50 PM
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7. No, we need to eliminate BBV and make certain all votes are counted
We need to stop reacting to Republican bulshit and start
changing what is wrong.
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Lady President Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:51 PM
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8. Need a reason to vote absentee in Ohio
Ohio is another state (and likely a pivotal state in 2004) where you need a reason to vote absentee.

In Ohio you may vote absentee ballot if…

You will be absent from the County on Election Day
You are 62 years of age or older
You are a full-time firefighter, peace officer or provider of
emergency medical services
You or a family member will be hospitalized on Election Day
You have a physical illness or personal disability
You cannot vote on Election Day because of a religious belief
You will be in jail for a misdemeanor or awaiting trial
You are an election official or board of elections employee
You are on active duty in the state with an organized militia

It is a good idea in states where you have a choice.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 03:03 PM
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11. It would be difficult to prove in a court of law...
... your word against theirs. And it's doubtful that they really take the time to follow-up and demand proof that you were really out of town.

"I expect to be out of town on election day."
"Here's your absentee ballot."
Later....
"Hey! You didn't go out of town."
"No... but I expected to. My plans changed. Sorry."

-- Allen
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Lady President Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 06:20 PM
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17. You're right, but I wouldn't recommend it
I have never heard of anyone who has had an absentee request denied, but the lawyer in me, can't recommend lying to the Board of Elections.

A larger concern is trying to convince the casual voter to vote this way. I voted absentee during college and it involved calling the Board, receiving the official request and returning it, and receiving and returning your ballot on a timeline. I'm afraid that people who rarely vote or only vote during the presidential election will say 'hell with it' somewhere through the process.

Besides, even if you keep a copy of your absentee ballot, there is no way to prove it arrived on time. Unfortunately, an absentee ballot can be tossed away as easily as an electronic vote can be deleted. (I don't think the Board allows registered letters.)
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:54 PM
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9. depends on where you live ...
In Calif. anyone can be a permanent absentee voter for any reason. I should know, I've been voting absentee for many years now. You need only come up with a stamp to do it every time.

<eom>

:dem: :kick:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 05:35 PM
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12. Hi demdogg!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Noordam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 05:37 PM
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13. I will ONLY vote by absentee ballot
I also tell all that I know to do the same.

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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 06:01 PM
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14. I've always enjoyed voting on Election Day.Made the process more vibrant.
For 2004,I'll be voting absentee.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 06:18 PM
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15. Depends on the state
In Pennsylvania, you can only do it if you are going to be absent from the municipality in which you are registered to vote, or if you have a physical limitation which prohibits you getting to the polling place.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 06:27 PM
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18. NO! absentee ballots do NOT even get counted unless it is a close race
Edited on Sun Oct-26-03 06:36 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
Check and Get Absentee Ballot Info for Your State
...
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 07:12 PM
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20. In Illinois...
Absentee ballots are opened, the applications logged into the precinct binder, and the ballots cast in the ballot box; absentee ballots are inseparable from the others when the ballot box is opened.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 07:17 PM
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21. wow then In Illinois they do it correctly...the way it should be done!
:toast:
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 07:24 PM
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22. Yeah, we do.
:toast:
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