Fox post-mortem: William Krystol and Juan Williams?

Lydia Leftcoast

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Sun Oct-26-03 09:39 PM
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Fox post-mortem: William Krystol and Juan Williams?

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Loyal

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Sun Oct-26-03 09:40 PM
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1. Yeah

Edited on Sun Oct-26-03 09:40 PM by Loyal

They're building up Dean because they think he is a weak candidate against Bush. :mad: You'll never hear them talk about Kerry. And what the fuck happened to Juan Williams? He used to be okay.

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oceanpoetry

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Sun Oct-26-03 09:43 PM
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3. I never liked Juan Williams

I always thought he was jack-ass. Was highly disappointed when he took of Talk of the Nation on NPR a few years ago.

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jumptheshadow

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Sun Oct-26-03 09:43 PM
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4. They're saying that Dean controls the race

I agree that he has the momentum at this point. But it's still early in the campaign and we could see some dramatic shifts.

They also said that Dean is pulling the other candidates to the left and Lieberman and Gephardt have an opening on the right.

I think they are dead wrong there.

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Lydia Leftcoast

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Sun Oct-26-03 09:43 PM
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5. Not when he was on Talk of the Nation

He was such a comedown after Ray Suarez.

I didn't see Dean as the winner tonight, although he was okay. Except for Al Sharpton's right-on oratory, they were all good, better on some issues than others, but no clear standouts.

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Eloriel

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Sun Oct-26-03 11:25 PM
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18. You missed their point

It wasn't so much that Dean won the debate itself, but that he was the winner because as frontrunner he didn't suffer any crushing blows. He's still the frontrunner. He's therefore the winner as the still-standing frontrunner.

Eloriel

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Nashyra

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Sun Oct-26-03 09:44 PM
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6. Had to turn FAUX off

Great debate, IMO Lieberman, Kucinch, and CMB should fold their tent and go home. Sharpton needs to stay in, although it is unreasonable to think that he would be the candidate he has way to much baggage and the RNC would crush him, he brings up so many issues in a way that the front runners can't. He speaks like a man who has nothing to loose and everything to gain

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Lydia Leftcoast

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Sun Oct-26-03 09:47 PM
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8. I think I'm going to turn the TV off, too

These Fox whores have nothing to say to me.

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Jazzgirl

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Sun Oct-26-03 09:48 PM
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9. I'm wondering the same thing.

I used to like Juan. Seems like he is now part of the Faux agenda.

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hlthe2b

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Sun Oct-26-03 09:58 PM
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14. Juan William's sister is a real LIB and takes him to task

apparently. I heard him discussing how she thought (knew) Bush had stolen the election, etc., etc. I think she lives overseas, but she does have HIS number... He's in big time denial or just a total sellout whore. Or both.

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Lefty48197

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Sun Oct-26-03 09:43 PM
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2. Double puke

:puke: :puke: (you forgot about Tony Blow)

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IndianaGreen

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Sun Oct-26-03 09:47 PM
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7. What Kristol and Williams said...

What Kristol and Williams said is that every debate in which Dean comes out unscathed is a victory for Dean.

As all of us that are into sports know very well, the team that plays to protect a lead usually ends up losing the game.

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union_maid

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Sun Oct-26-03 09:51 PM
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10. Dean isn't pulling anything to the left

If anyone is doing that, it's Kucinich, Braun and Sharpton. Dean isn't any more liberal than any of the candidates in general.

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unfrigginreal

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Sun Oct-26-03 09:55 PM
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13. Dean pulled the candidates to the left on the War issue...

that is what the pundits were talking about.

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Karmadillo

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Sun Oct-26-03 09:51 PM
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11. Interesting how Carl Cameron (inadvertently?) pointed out the FOX lies

of Snow, Williams, and Krystal. All three had argued no one had attempted to attack Dean and, therefore, being unscathed, he was the winner. Why they would be promoting a version of the facts anyone who watched the debate would know isn't true, is beyond me, but in the next segment, Cameron noted there were serious attacks on Dean by Kerry and Lieberman.

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maggrwaggr

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Sun Oct-26-03 09:51 PM
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12. turn it off. Life's too short for fools like that.

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Lydia Leftcoast

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Sun Oct-26-03 10:07 PM
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15. Paul Krugman is on CSPAN2, so I'm watching him

:-)

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Catshrink

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Sun Oct-26-03 10:08 PM
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16. thanks for the heads up

I switched.... this is better. rational, thoughtful...

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UTUSN

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Sun Oct-26-03 10:13 PM
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17. What a Choice - Billy KRISTOL & JuanitO?

What was the question? Something Repuke????

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