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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 11:25 AM
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Wow. Any and all JFK assassination theorists should read this
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/31/national/31NELL.html?hp=&pagewanted=all&position

October 31, 2003
40 Years After Shots in Dallas, a Survivor's Painful Memories
By RALPH BLUMENTHAL

HOUSTON, Oct. 30 - "It was a car full of yellow roses, red roses and blood, and it was all over us."

In a luxury apartment tower rearing over the city's toniest shopping district, Nellie Connally pauses, her rush of words suddenly stilled. "It's hard to explain," she continues after a moment. "You can't believe the horror of being in that car."

"I can't believe it's been 40 years," she says, "nor can I believe that I'm the last person living that was in the back of that car" - a car that carried her in her hot-pink Neiman Marcus suit, and her husband, John, the new governor of Texas with his cowboy hat, and President John F. Kennedy and his wife, Jacqueline, in a triumphant motorcade through the streets of Dallas. It was an ebullient Mrs.
Connally who gushed, "Mr. President, you certainly can't say that Dallas doesn't love you" - perhaps the last words Kennedy ever heard.

After shots rang out - and Mrs. Connally is adamant that three bullets, not two as officially established, found their mark - the president was dead, her husband gravely wounded as she struggled to stanch his blood, and the course of history forever altered.

...more...
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 11:35 AM
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1. There was more than
roses and blood all over them. President Kennedy's brain was spattered all over them. I remember reading that Jackie tried to grab a piece of JFK's skull and put it back on. Oh, dear, what a horrible day.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 11:37 AM
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2. That third bullet was just a coincidence

No different from the tragic deaths of the Jessica Lynch rescuers or Mo Atta's miracle passport or the CIA simulation.

Nothing to see here, folks.
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 11:40 AM
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3. It had to be cross-fire
just like the theorists have explained it - higher probability of success.

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 11:45 AM
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4. but, but, but,
Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 11:49 AM by Minstrel Boy
ABC has an irrefutable computer simulation. Case closed! :crazy:

Mrs Connelly's memory of roses and blood reminds me of a haunting image from Trauma Room One by Dr Charles Crenshaw, then resident surgeon at Parkland Hospital who attended to both Kennedy and Oswald:

"The room was in dead silence, except for the muffled sounds of weeping. Then I looked down into that kick bucket, and I nearly lost my control. There, mingled with the President's brain tissue and his life's blood, were someone's red roses...."
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 11:54 AM
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5. Why is it that the good ones always get killed?
From Kennedy & MLK in the 60s, to Wellstone & Anna Lindh in our own time...why is it that the progressive leadership has the bad habit of being dead just when you need them most?

Say what you want about the NeoCons...at least they have better bodyguards. Can you image what would happen to the conservative movement if Limbaugh, Bush & Gingrich all got assassinated within a few years of each other?

(Note to the Secret Service: I am not advocating anyone going out and hurting anyone.)
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BigBigBigBear Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 12:13 PM
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6. Connally himself
was absolutely certain that he and Kennedy were hit by different shots. The Warren Commission (and Posner) asserted otherwise, although the film clearly supports Connally's recollections.

Indeed, Nellie is the last survivor, although I was quite disappointed that when her husband passed away (in '99?) not allow any further forensic examination of his thigh and wrist area to search for more bullet fragments. Anything at all found there would have further sunk the WC report.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 12:22 PM
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7. If you're ever in Dallas, go stand behind the fence
behind the grassy knoll. Go to the far corner... the corner closest to the railroad tracks. Look back down into the plaza and toward the School Book Depository building. It's a perfect shot. Absolutely perfect. The motorcade is coming right at you. All one would have to do is pull the trigger.

The area behind the grassy knoll is now a big parking lot for Dallas' West End area. When I first visited it to see in 1978 it was still the far edge of a dirty gravelly, rocky railway yard. In addition to being a great shot, the railway yard was a great place to run off to afterwards.

Ever since my first visit there there's no doubt in my mind there was more than one gunman.
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