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truizm Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:05 AM
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Do you vocalize words in your mind as you read?
If not, how did you learn not to do this while still retaining information?
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:06 AM
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1. Yes, When I Read I Hear The Words As If Spoken By An Actor.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:10 AM
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2. Yes, and I also teach public speaking....
so maybe there's a connection there. I always tell my PS students they have to hear what they write or else it'll sound like writing. not speech, when they say it.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:11 AM
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3. Yeah, of course
Is it possible not to? I mean, I realize I can force myself to read faster, in fact I know I read faster all the time when I was younger, but I've always heard the words in my head. Can you absorb the ideas without the words?!
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:13 AM
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6. How could a deaf person read anything otherwise?
They wouldn't know what it "sounds" like, would they? Just a thought.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:20 AM
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16. Excellent point. I think you just proved me 100% wrong.
Wow. Weird. I have a friend who is deaf, I'll have to ask her how she conceptualizes as she reads... Gotta learn something every day!
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:18 AM
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7. Or another possible example:
I can "read" some Chinese characters (the ones for "person" and "water" for example -- but I have NO idea how those characters are spoken, not a clue. So I absolutely cannot hear them. I suppose you could say I hear the word "person" -- but I don't really. I think it in a different way than hearing it.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:11 AM
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4. Is there a way not to?
I thought that's what everyone does.
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truizm Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:43 AM
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11. Supposedly...
and vocalizing words in your head allows much faster reading -- thousands of words/minute -- with higher retention.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:07 AM
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13. Funny... I thought it was the exact opposite
At least that's what Evelyn Wood would say -- that vocalizing the words in your mind slows down your reading.

I remember learning to read in school (I actually remember NOT being able to read) and the teachers were always trying to get us to not read the words aloud in our mind. Claimed it would make us poor readers or blind or something awful.
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truizm Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 12:05 PM
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17. You're right. That was a typo.
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:12 AM
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5. me, too
it is why I can't read fast. But I retain what is said in a "loop" in my head, so when I cover meetings as a reporter, I can still hear a quote even after the person has moved on to say something else. It's actually quite weird.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:19 AM
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8. Yes... And Each Person Here Has A DIFFERNT "Voice".
Weird huh?

-- Allen
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:09 AM
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14. Not weird
A very rich and imaginative way to read.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:24 AM
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9. I read very quickly
I take the words in chunks rather than one by one and process it not consciously really, it just kind of soaks in. I don't know how to tell anyone to do this. I think it's just how some brains function. My husband reads normally one word at a time and my daughter follows the same path, but my 8 year old son can complete a couple short novels in a matter of a few hours. My 5 year old son seems to be following the same path as well. I think just inherent processing differences, but maybe it's somewhat genetic.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:25 AM
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10. I do if am savoring something, if not I skim and get the info
in a visual way instead of converting it to an auditory way.

Not sure if it is something that can be learned, though. Not everyone's brain is wired to receive information in the same way.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:48 AM
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12. No
I essentially read by lines. I don't know how to describe it, really.
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truizm Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 12:17 PM
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18. How did you learn to do this?
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:22 PM
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19. I didn't learn it
I just do it.

It doesn't work quite as well for academic reading, however. If I'm not understanding what's on the page, I have to read it more methodically.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:11 AM
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15. not just vocalize, but visualize as well
Tell someone to think of a pink elephant.

In their mind, they're thinking of a picture of a pink elephant, not just the letters arranged to spell the word pink elephant.

Or at least, that what those Mega Memory infomercials said.
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:26 PM
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20. I dunno.
I don't know how read...

Poop.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:56 PM
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21. YEP, that's why I can't proofreed my own writing
because when I read what I wrote - I hear my speaking voice.

Go figure!
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thestatusquo Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 03:01 PM
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22. As a Psychology student...
I can say that the debate on whether people use subvoalization or not is ongoing. Think about this: if you can't learn without your phonological cue how do deaf people learn to read?
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