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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:20 PM
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Am I having a vegetarian moment?
OK....this may come across as completely bizarre but bear with me.

I just finished a Peter Singer book which argues that eating animals is completely unethical. He makes good arguments, but I don't buy it.

Anyway, we have the recent prison scandal, and the Berg tape, in which humans are treated like meat.

Then there's the story about the cow who escaped the slaughterhouse and hid out as the garage. Poor little thing looked scared out of his wits.

Anyway, I make dinner - smoked pork tenderloins, greenbeans and black beans. Usually, one of my favorites. But I can't eat it.

I just can't.

Am I going crazy here? I fucking LOVE meat!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:21 PM
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1. GO read Ishmael...you'll find your neighbor much more delicious!
Edited on Wed May-12-04 10:21 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:22 PM
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2. By Daniel Quinn? Loved that book
A bit new-agey but it worked...
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:29 PM
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10. It did
and at least it wasn't Celestine Prophecy...that thing read like a See Dick Run reader!
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:27 PM
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6. great book
like solinvictus said go free range and humane. My prob isn't with the eating of meat its way its mass produced in our current society. When I can afford it I try to go organic but there are times when I can't. Then I try to put it out of my mind. We're omnivores remember that.
Scott
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:28 PM
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8. I agree....that and the fact that we toss out more than we eat
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:39 PM
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13. Loved that book
I remember seeing you say something about it before. I think what hit me the most when I read it was the Bible story of Adam and Eve was simply an analogy for mankind's emergence from hunter/gatherer societies to agriculturally based (and what that did). I liked that much better than the anti-female interpretation it gives throughout much of organized religion. Some powerful stuff there.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:42 PM
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14. And Cain v Abel was along the same lines
Cain was a farmer, and displeased God, whereas Abel represented the hunter-gatherers and pleased God...
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:23 PM
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3. No
I love steak, but I have an ethical dilemma with the sufferings inflicted on animals for my diet. I have a chihuahua that I'd literally kill for and, considering, a piglet has been proven to have the emotional intelligence of a 3 year old child; it causes me serious problems when I consider it. Poultry I have no problems with because chickens and domestic turkeys are dim, but at the same time, they should be free range.
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Angelus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:23 PM
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4. Go on and enjoy your pork tenderloins!
I had beef roast for supper and it was delicious. :)
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:27 PM
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5. I'm sure it is...that's not the problem
I look at the meat and I can't separate the life form from the food anymore....
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Angelus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:29 PM
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9. Don't worry about it...
it was only an animal. Animals are meant to be eaten.

I know you're having some strong emotions from what has happened recently--we all have--but don't let that...I don't know how to say this without offending or hurting, but...I don't know. You may know where I'm going with this. :shrug:

Just enjoy it. :)
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:44 PM
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16. you are an animal
are you meant to be eaten? I like to think I am meant to be eaten but I'm just soo darn crafty that the lions can't catch me on the way to the metro.
:silly:
Scott
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ronzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:28 PM
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7. Sometimes that's how it starts.
My sweetie started with an aversion to steaks. For her, it really started after we lost a beloved pet... you just may be having a vege moment.

Gotta love the runaway cow stories. :toast:
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:31 PM
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11. I've been a vegetarian for years
Edited on Wed May-12-04 10:31 PM by Gothic_Sponge
I don't miss meat. It's just a bitch trying to order from a restaurant.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:31 PM
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12. Actually..here's a gif if you're having a veggie moment
Best time to watch it :-)

http://www.shagrat.net/Html/cows
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:42 PM
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15. Can't view it :(
Tried IE and Zilla...I'll check it out later
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