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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 11:41 PM
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Odd they might find the Holy Grail now, don't you think?
WWII Code-Breakers Tackle Inscription

LONDON - The experts who cracked Nazi Germany's secret codes are tackling a 10-letter enigma that has stumped fine minds for more than 250 years — D.O.U.O.S.V.A.V.V.M.

Former code-breakers from Britain's World War II intelligence center at Bletchley Park set out this week to decipher a cryptic inscription on an 18th-century monument at an English country estate.
Legend says it reveals the location of the Holy Grail. Some believe it is a private message to a deceased beloved. No one knows for sure.

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Some believe the monument holds the key to finding the Holy Grail, the cup Jesus Christ drank from at the Last Supper. The Anson family, who built the Shugborough estate in the 17th century, had a long-standing interest in the Knights Templar, a secretive medieval order who claimed to be guardians of the grail.

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Tucked away within the 900-acre grounds, they found their puzzle: a stone monument built around 1748, containing a carved relief of Nicholas Poussin's Les Bergers d'Arcadie II in reverse. The picture shows a female figure watching as three shepherds gather around a tomb and point at letters within an inscription carved upon it, which read: Et in Arcadia Ego! (And I am in Arcadia too.) Beneath it the letters O.U.O.S.V.A.V.V. are carved, and underneath them a D and an M.


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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 12:03 AM
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1. They'll never get past that bunny
It's got a mean streak a mile wide!
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 12:07 AM
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2. Listen, strange women lying in ponds is no basis ...
... for a system of government!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 12:08 AM
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3. You can't claim "Supreme executive power" because some watery tart
threw a sword at you!
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 12:20 AM
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4. The... cup Jesus drank from...?
Silly me, not growing up in a christian household.. can someone explain that to me?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 12:34 AM
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At the Last Supper, the final meal with Jesus and his disciples,
jesus broke bread, and blessed it, and said "this is my body, broken for you" and he poured the wine, and blessed it, and said "This is the new covenant of my blood".

It is that final meal that is remembered in communion (also known as Eucharist).

The holy grail is - theoretically - the cup that Jesus poured the wine into.

In the middle ages, the grail took on a lot of extra stories, such as that it was that very grail that the blood from Jesus, when the roman centurion pierced his side, was caught in.

And it has been assumed that Joseph of Aremithea ended up with the grial (it was his tomb that Jesus was buried in).

Also in the middle ages the story came that water drunk from the grail would cure anyone of anytyhing, or possibly bring eternal life.

And of course, it was the grial that King Arthur was looking for in order the bring England out of it's slump (and which story Monty python satirized).

One good thing about Indiana and the Last Crusade was that they showed the Holy Grail as a simple, clay drinking glass - as Indy said, "This looks like the cup of a carpenter". And all the gold, gem- and jewel-encrusted grails were false. very true!! No gold or bullshit for Jesus!
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 12:44 AM
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7. I wonder how you would know it was the cup of Jesus...
I mean, Jesus seemed like a pretty normal guy, aside from the son of god stuff... did he sign it? 'JC was here, 999bc 4 life'?

Oh well, if they find a cup... rock on. If it did belong to Jesus, supposing he exsisted, cooler still.. Maybe he left some water-to-wine power behind... I could get into that...
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 12:46 AM
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8. DNA fingerprinting
No problem for CSI Galilee.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 12:50 AM
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9. hahaha
That annoying chick who always talks about how she used to be a stripper could REALLY get into the whole Mary Magdalene (spelling? Anyone?) aspect I'm sure
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 12:34 AM
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6. According to some sects of Christianity....
The Holy Grail is the cup that Jesus drank from during the Last Supper or something like that.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 12:26 AM
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5.  Armaments, chapter two, verses nine to twenty-one.
Edited on Thu May-13-04 12:40 AM by JonathanChance


SECOND BROTHER:
And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, 'O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that, with it, Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits in Thy mercy.' And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals and fruit bats and large chu--



MAYNARD:
Skip a bit, Brother.

SECOND BROTHER:
And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.'
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