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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:14 PM
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My FreeRepublic awards
I occasionally lurk on FreeRepublic. I have decided to compile a list of the most extreme FReepers, or at least the ones that stick out in my mind

1. Award for pro-war, pro-Bush activism resulting in the death of an American citizen goes to....Doug from Upland.

2. Award for obsession with Hillary Clinton goes to....Mia T.

3. Award for neanderthal knuckle dragging goes to...Dane.

4. Award for most brainwashed Bushbot goes to....Peach.

5. Award for most activism on behalf of a foreign power....goes to extreme zionist Yonif. Runner up for the Likudnik award....goes to extreme zionist Alouette.

6. Award for most childish behavior goes to....Kristinn, head of the DC Freepers (the guys on C-Span)

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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:17 PM
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1. You're giving these people WAY too much attention.
Seriously. Every minute you spend reading that nonsense is a minute of your life you don't get back.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:22 PM
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2. I cannot help it
They amuse me to no end.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:22 PM
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3. I don't know who any of these people are or what they do but
Edited on Sat May-15-04 11:22 PM by The_Casual_Observer
Screw Doug from Upland
Screw Mia T
Screw Dane
Screw Peach
Screw Alouette
Screw Kristinn

From what little I have seen of the site I say God damn them too.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:22 PM
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4. a special award has to go to Arizona Joe
he's one of the thickest dumbasses over there...

He had a thing with me for awhile. He would keep asking where toughguy rumguy is...

We had a little inter-website spat going on...
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:28 PM
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5. sounds like a real neanderthal
like most of them.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:28 PM
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6. special runner up, from lucianne.com
Award for most laughable favorite response "MUSLIM TERRORIST CARBOMB THROUGH SCOTT RITTER'S FRONT DOOR!"

Any name can be used instead of Scott Ritter.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:32 PM
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7. lucianne.com
is a real knuckle dragging site
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:36 PM
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9. Ah, those people are just pissed that the terrorist thought of
doing that stuff first.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:32 PM
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8. What, specifically, does #1 mean?
Did he kill someone? Did he get them killed? What?
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:55 PM
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10. check out this article about FR and Nick Berg
by an Irish writer, Fintan Dunne

Nick Berg, 26 disappeared into incommunicado detention after his arrest by Iraqi police in March, 2004. He vanished again after his release 13 days later. His body was found last Saturday in Baghdad, and a video of his beheading --supposedly by a radical Islamic group-- was posted on the Internet on Tuesday.

The official story of his gruesome murder has many dubious aspects, not least the real reason why Iraqi police detained the young man at a checkpoint. New research by BreakForNews has uncovered a plausible explanation.


The FreeRepublic.com web site and forum has a reputation for right-wing views, fanatical Republicanism and relentless pro-war activism.

On 7th March, 2004, just three weeks before the first anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, an 'enemies' list of anti-war groups and individuals was posted on the Free Republic forum.

It began: "Here you are, FReepers. Here is the enemy."

The list had been copied from publicly available endorsements of a call to action for an imminent anniversary antiwar protest on 20th March, 2004. The protest was being organized under the banner of the A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism).


Among those listed as having endorsed the call to action was this entry: "Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc."

That's Nick Berg's father, Michael who acts as business manager for his son in their family radio communications firm, Prometheus Methods Tower Service.

Both father and son cared deeply about Iraq. But they were on opposite sides of opinion on the occupation --though you would never know that from reading the New York Times.

Michael was ardently antiwar, whereas his Bush-supporting son was in favor of the war to the extent that he had already visited Iraq seeking to help with rebuilding efforts.

Just seven days after "Michael Berg" and "Prometheus Methods Tower Service" had come up on that Iraq war 'enemies' list, his son Nick Berg returned to Iraq under the business name of Prometheus Methods Tower Service.

The scene was set for tragically mistaken suspicions --which were to end in the horrifying death of an honorable and blameless American. A humanitarian who had traveled several times to Third World countries --such as Ghana, to teach villagers construction techniques.



The web traffic to the Free Republic forum --and it's forum membership-- include significant numbers of serving and former US military.

Many members take their online activism very seriously. Some delight in causing mischief for those they think are identified as "enemies."

Within minutes of getting their hands on the antiwar names, one was boasting of having contacted the military about active service personnel who were on the list:

"I forwarded the list to the ISC (the command you listed), the district officer... the district legal office and the investigative services office."

The response:

"The poor moron is not going to know what hit him. Is this being mean-spirited? NO! Someone against our military does not belong in the military!"

Another was already investigating a member of the Coast Guard on the list:

"I took a look at his yahoo and he has a site which is not real fond of the war on drugs OR the war on terrorism.... That particular coastie needs some serious trouble to come his way...."

" I spoke on the phone to a senior chief yesterday in Virginia.... could not believe what the guy was doing. He was both astounded and angry. I think is in for some big, big trouble."


If that list could end up on an Internet forum, then it could just as readily end up with the FBI, and eventually in the hands of those in Iraq who are keen to track or harass antiwar activists entering the country.

Alternatively, the enthusiasts on Free Republic have the contacts and the clear determination to have ensured the list quickly got to the right places.



At the time the list was posted, Nick Berg had just come back from an Iraq trip lasting from late December to Feb. 1. He had reported no problems whatsoever with Iraqi police during that visit.

Yet, within two weeks of the list being posted, Nick Berg --back in Iraq on his final fatal trip-- was reportedly detained in Mosul at an Iraqi police checkpoint. The official explanation is that authorities thought his identification might have been forged and were checking his authenticity.

But a more likely reason is that by then authorities in Iraq had discovered that a 'Berg' of Prometheus Methods Tower Service was in the country, and issued a detention instruction to Iraqi police because they misidentified Nick Berg as an antiwar activist entering Iraq to work for the 'enemy'.

That could explain why he was held incommunicado for 13 days, without recourse to a lawyer; why US officialdom was singularly unheeding of his mother's pleas; why the FBI visited his family to question them; why it took a US court order secured by the family to pressure his release.

And why he was cruelly murdered soon after that release, like many others around the world who suffer such a fate at the hands of state-condoned death squads --sometimes just hours after their release from official detention.

That's the final sordid twist in this grisly story.




If the world was an uncomplicated place, then this tale would end with the mistaken arrest of Nick Berg.

We could finish by noting that Nick's father is reportedly accusing the US government of contributing to his son's death. Unable to find work in Iraq, Nick Berg's last trip was set to be a short one. He planned to return to the US on the 30th of March.

Michael Berg charges that his son's detention until 5th April, was a violation of civil rights which fatally delayed his exit from Iraq and instead left him dangerously stranded in the middle of the explosion of violence which erupted in early April, 2004.

But there are much graver aspects to all this. Another chilling perspective is best summarized by the wry cynicism of Michael Rivero at WhatReallyHappened.com

In a commentary on the beheading of Nick Berg, Rivero writes:

"How wonderfully lucky for Bush and the NeoCons that such a great piece of pro-war distract-from-the-torture-scandal event happens at this particular moment."
Rivero's world-weary realism strikes a chord with his popular website's visitors, but will undoubtedly shock unseasoned observers. However he is far from alone in questioning the official line. Others have noted the too-white hands and military at-ease stance of the hooded captors in the video.

The killing has certainly eased the international discomfiture of the US.



The problem with assumptions that al-Queda is responsible for Berg's beheading, is that Musab al-Zarqawi is mentioned in a caption on the videotape of the killing.

Al-Zarqawi came to our attention in January, 2004 when the US military claimed to have intercepted a letter of his written to the al-Queda leadership. But the content of the letter read like a US military propaganda statement on the situation in Iraq.

In the letter al-Zarqawi wrote of Iraqis coming to welcome the US presence in Iraq, and about how al-Queda was loosing ground in it's war against the US.

In February, 2004 an article "The Zarqawi Gambit," by Greg Weiher on Counterpunch was deeply skeptical of the letter:

"..if you were Karl Rove, you couldn't design a better scenario to validate the administration's slant on the war than this. That's a good reason to maintain a healthy skepticism. In fact, there are a number of good reasons to take this story with a grain of salt (maybe a three- or four-pounder)."
The US has been keen to paint the opposition to the occupation as composed of many foreign fighters tied to al-Queda. The letter was clearly fabricated for propaganda purposes, with al-Zarqawi as it's new al-Queda star.




But if al-Zarqawi is merely a flimsy propaganda creation, then what confidence can we have in the official line that al-Zarqawi and al-Queda murdered Berg?

The only plausible alternative is a covert, black operation orchestrated as part of the seedier arm of US foreign policy --which generally only come to light when candid photographs, for example, reach the public domain.

But that's an explanation which many would reject on the grounds that no force allied to the US --no matter how black its operations-- would have members so callous as to even countenance the cold-blooded beheading of a US citizen.


However, there is a mindset amplified by war passions and found among the gung-ho brutes who beat Iraqis to death; found among the thuggish mercenary death squads who roam to slay at will; and found among the cold-blooded sociopaths who have planted bombs for political strategic reasons.

It's war. And war begets a wartime mindset.

Nick Berg's detention indicates that authorities regarded him an an antiwar activist and possibly also as an 'enemy.'

That original post on Free Republic contains a telling indication of a mindset, which in the heat of war could well kill an American it regards as the "enemy."

A mindset which has now reacted to Michael Berg's loss of his son like this:

"I wonder what he thinks about his Muslim buddies now... "

A mindset displayed by the search keywords used on Free Republic to categorize the list of antiwar supporters. The keywords are:

APPEASENIKS; DAMNCOMMIES; ENEMYWITHIN; LEFTISTS; PEACENIKS; RATS; SCUMBAGS; TRAITORS; TREASONOUSSCUM; USEFULIDIOTS; WARONTERROR
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richmwill Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:31 AM
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11. Crazy
2. Award for obsession with Hillary Clinton goes to....Mia T.

Oh my God- I've seen this lady's posts- she is CRAZY with a capital C! I'll bet having dinner with her is wonderful- she invites her friends over, they sit down, someone asks "So Mia, how was your day?" Mia replies "DAMN (blanking) Hillary! (Blank) her (blanking) (blank) to (blanking) hell!!"
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 04:17 PM
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12. her posts
are certainly good evidence for her being locked up
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