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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:20 PM
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Tonight's Simpsons was the best episode I've seen in a while
A completely scathing commentary on the climate of fear, irrational patriotism, and intimidation of dissenting voices that Bushco has created in this country.

My only question is, why did it take so long for an episode like this?
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:21 PM
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1. I liked it too
I wonder though, how in the hell did Murdoch approve of this? I doubt he'll allow the episode to be syndicated.
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 02:49 AM
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19. Matt Groening donates BIG to Dems (details)
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:22 PM
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2. I couldn't believe it. On Fox yet
That episode should be shown in schools country wide.

Bravo, Simpsons
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taxidriver Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:23 PM
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3. of course I picked tonight to go watch troy.
oh well, they'll rerun it later.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:24 PM
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4. A superior episode
It was as good as the episodes from the Simpsons best years in the mid-90's.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:37 PM
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5. Tell Us More Please!
I had to work & missed it too!

Gimme the jist of the plot & some good lines please!
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:49 PM
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9. It was a parody of nationalist RWers... (spoiler)
...Bart "accidentally" mooned the US flag, which started a backlash against the Simpsons by a Tweety-like cable pundit, and everyone in Springfield. The Simpsons were arrested at church, and incarcerated at the Ronald Reagan Re-Education Center, along with Michael Moore, The Dixie Chicks, Bill Clinton and Elmo (from Sesame Street - the reason he was there was because "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser...").

Long story short, they were deported to France, and then re-emigrated to the US...

Possibly the best Simpsons episode ever!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 12:53 PM
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28. It was accidential. Everybody looked at the 'end' of the situation and
presumed Bart mooned the flag. (Bart was chiding a goat with a carrot, stuck the carrot in his pants, and the goat ate his pants. LOL!)

ANybody who doesn't like this episode is a repuke. This episode is outrageously delightful and accurate in its portrayal and that's got to be utterly scathing to repukes, especially Rupert Murdoch who'll likely oversee future episodes in the future.

Easily the best episode in years. One of the top 10, though its topical nature may render it somewhat obsolete in the future.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:55 PM
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10. Ok
Bart ended up accidentally mooning the American flag when a donkey ate off his shorts during the national anthem at a donkey basketball game.

A local paper picks up the story and completely blows it out of proportion.

The Simpsons become pariahs, and an irrational wave of jingoism sweeps over Springfield. Mayor Quimby renames the town Libertyville and the price of everything becomes $17.76

When the Simpsons are in church, a SWAT team breaks in and arrests them for violating the "Government Knows Best Act." They are all imprisoned in Alcatraz along with Bill Clinton, Elmo, Michael Moore, the Dixie Chicks, and other left wing celebrities for "re-education."


My favorite lines:

When Bart moons the flag, the old redneck cowboy guy shouts:

"How dare you desecrate the flag that my grandaddy rebelled against!"

After Springfield takes its jingoistic turn, the church marquee reads:

"Is God Patriotic Enough?"
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 11:24 AM
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25. there you go
It's shot day and Bart tries to evade the needle. Dr. Hibbert manages to get the job done but Bart suffers a side effect of temporary hearing loss from the shot and he takes advantage of it for all it's worth. At Springfield Elementary the annual Donkey basketball tournament is being held. During the playing of The Star Spangled Banner Bart has his shorts eaten by a donkey, leaving his bare ass exposed towards the flag. Martin snaps a picture and everyone present is outraged at this behavior. As a result the Simpson family becomes very unpopular. They go on a cable news channel and only manage to dig themselves into a deeper hole when the host manages to twist Marge's words into saying that Springfield hates America. The negative publicity causes Mayor Quimby to change the name of the town to Liberty-Ville and they make everything patriotic. The family is arrested under violation of the "government knows best act" and they are brought to a reeducation center. The last registered Democrat tells them how they can escape. During their musical number they escape through a tunnel but find they were on Alcatraz. They are rescued by a passing French freighter and taken to France. After being there a while they decide they miss their life in America and go back as illegal immigrants.
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neoteric lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:38 PM
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6. ending seemed very abrupt
but they all seem to nowadays
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:39 PM
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7. I didn't see all of it, but didn't they make fun of Tweety and Rush?
nt.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 11:44 PM
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8. We were practically on the floor laughing
And we've been pretty disappointed in this show for a while. It seemed like they'd lost much of their edge; this ep was amazing, though.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 12:34 AM
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11. I still love the Simpsons, and..
I happened to miss this one. :-(
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 01:00 AM
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12. Stupendous...I only managed to tape the last half!
Shit, it was brilliant....Stunningly funny and appropriate.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 01:22 AM
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13. It took so long because of people like this:
from the Simpson's message board:

"Tonight's Simpson's was absolutely reprehensible... nothing more than a soapbox for the extremist left to preen and pretend that they are somehow morally superior to the very people who DO defend their right to spout such idiotic, imbecilic, illogical and downright mean spirited rhetoric. Yea, like Al Franken needs to be in prison! Nope, we voted him of no consequence by ignoring Air America... no listeners, no advertisers... no advertisers, no revenues... no revenues, no Franken-babble. Trust me; the same fate will befall The Simpson's if they keep preaching from the left pulpit. They're so much better at mindless goofball hi-jinks than trying to make social commentary from a premise that is decidedly flawed. "

I haven't even seen it yet... but I somehow doubt that it's... extremist left soapboxy... You wanna talk about illogical rhetoric... :crazy:
Takes all kinds, I guess... I'd rather spend my time getting worked up about people that lie, torture, kill, steal and rape than a Simpson's episode that doesn't align with my political belifs...
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 02:12 AM
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16. Funny thing is...
that's exactly the kind of bullshit this episode was making fun of.

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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 02:18 AM
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17. I really wanna see it now
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:42 AM
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20. I think it's on CTV at the same time as in the US, isn't it???
:shrug:
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 12:35 PM
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26. I get it
on Fox and Global, I just wasn't around
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 01:28 AM
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14. Dang! After reading the posts about what the show was about,
I wish I could have seen it.

Brilliant!

And anyone on the rightwing who watches the show and was offended, I can only say, "Dude, have you not paid attention since episode one? The Simpsons, while not necessarily leftist, though it leans tht way, has never shied away from critiquing the rightwing assmunchers and standing up for what America SHOULD be like."
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 02:10 AM
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15. The part that surprised me...
Edited on Mon May-17-04 02:13 AM by DrWeird
Everybody was upset about Bart mooning the flag, some character says something like, "that was very offensive, and I'm a vet of the Vietnam war, the only war we ever lost.

Some other character says something like,"yeah, well just wait a bit."

Oh, and when they escape the US, they use the exact same ploy the Von Trapp family uses to escape nazi Germany.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:44 AM
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21. Not exactly, it was...
Homer and Skinner were talking in his office, and Skinner said that he was a veteran of America's only losing war, and Homer said "To date.":D
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 02:23 AM
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18. It was Sooooo Goooood one of the best in ages

They hammered those without critical thinking skills I mean hammered.

I'm sure the mouth breathers hated it.

It was a joy.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 06:12 AM
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23.  I havent seen it yet but...
I taped it and i can't wait to watch it!!! The inventor of the vcr should have a nobel price! :toast:
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hasbro Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 06:05 AM
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22. Couple of favorite lines
"That's the flag my granddaddy rebelled against!"

"Who can blow a story out of puprortion?!"

"I want you to make the New York Post Look like the New York Times or is it the New York times look like the New York Post I forget which is the good one."

Whole thinly veiled segment on Bill Reilly so we'll see if he gets upset or toes the company line.
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truizm Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 07:44 AM
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24. I didn't see it in its entirety, but the parts I did see weren't funny.
It seemed very forced -- like all of the new episodes although not nearly as annoying as the other new episodes.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 12:43 PM
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27. Tom Bernard HATED it
KQRS morning show dj with the IQ of -1. His show consists of toilet humor, commentary of news snippets (often not related to the mainstream news, but bigger mainstream news items get mentioned too), and interviewing guests then slamming them after they hang up (unless they're politically compatible, in which case these people they interview are the greatest people ever conceived.)

He used to be a Dem, but as his show became popular, he became more and more repuke.

Up until Wellstone's murder, he always said "I'm a Dem but I'm tired of what they're going" and so on. Now he's a puke who slanders Dems and gives repukes all the free airtime they want.

The episode is AWESOME. Tom Boatyard hates it because it speaks up against his political "mind"set.
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