Hands up who hates other people's kids

Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy!

We were due for another one of these. :-)

Hate? No. Sometimes irritated by? Sure. Advocating explosion? Nah.

I was thinking of starting a thread like this, but I'm too fragile to handle the flames today.

the smiley face exploding another smiley face.

How do you reconcile those two images?

Joker: Our side, sir.
Colonel: Don't you love your country?
Joker: Yes, sir.
Colonel: Well how about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and c'mon in for the big win?
Joker: Yes, sir.
Colonel: Son, all I've ever asked of my Marines is for them to obey my orders as they would the word of God. We are here to help the Vietnamese because inside every gook, there is an American trying to get out. It's a hardball world, son. We've got to try to keep our heads until this peace craze blows over.
Joker: Aye aye, sir.
:toast:

But I know many more "adults" that can be a hell of a lot more irritating. And I don't think I could ever "hate" any child. They are just little people with big mouths. If I see them doing the "mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy" thing in public, it just gives me pleasure knowing they will have to go home with them and I will be going home to peace and quiet.

and brings his family over when he mows the lawn, slaps patches of paint on the walls, recements the front steps, and brings an entire collapsible playpen for his fucking kid.

I want landmines, lots of them, to hell with Princess Di

private space... not with all the kids of the world.

You have rights as a tenant. Talk to the landlord if having his/her kids underfoot is a problem for you.

:eyes:

I'm not usually irritated by children and look forward to seeing them.

here's some :eyes: right back at ya

:hi:

You're the one with the avatar.

At least I only have to say I don't smoke or drink nearly as much as mine does. :D :hi:

Definitely to the point too!

(not that I've tried)

You could easily have a hammer in the other hand!

Hey it works for me too! :hi:

I was just following orders!!!

You pay attention.

I use it for everyone. I also use "kid", "pal", "dude", and "guy" pretty interchangeably.

You're Number One!

Of course, I am blessed with rather well-behaved little men and usually get compliments on how sweet they are. ;) But yeah, they've pitched a public fit or two in their day. But so have a lot of adults.

Truth be told, I'd rather hear, and have more sympathy for, a kid screeching and whining than some adult flipping out about high prices and going off on some poor waitress or sales clerk or gas station attendant who have no control over the situation.

I hate everybody. I can't leave out other people's kids. That would be discriminatory.
The Professor

I wonder if these people are forgetting that they too were children once. I wonder if their parents felt that way. Some of the people that I hear make such statements, were also "rotten" children.
Sometimes children's behavior says more about their parents, than it does the children.
Besides, where would we be without them???

I can always guage in a grocery store, etc, that about half the public thinks he's adorable, the others want to duct tape his mouth shut. To the latter I can only say 'fuck you.' He's the greatest little guy in the world, I can't imagine my life without him, and his repeating his favorite line from Shrek 2 ("Cough..Cough..Hairball.")is just the latest in a long line of developmental leaps that make my heart swell.

And unlike you, he at least has the fact that he's four to blame.

well to all you parents are there that think your kids are truly something special for us all to behold 'fuck you'

The three groups that need to ZIP IT:

1. Doting Parents
2. Golfers
3. Wine Enthusiasts

Nothing you have to say is interesting... NOTHING.

But since I have a child and my lifestyle requires that I take him with me on errands like this, you have to put up with him the same way I have to put up with your self-absorbed cellphone conversations, your idiotically loud rap music pouring out of your penis-extension car, your "Dude I was so fucked up last night" conversations in the check-out line (it's called Tinnitus, pick up a fucking brochure), and your complete lack of manners.

Thoroughly sorry your mommy didn't breast feed you. Dr. Melfi on line 2.

I don't listen to rap, let alone gangsta rap since gangsta rap seems to bother you more than regular unleaded rap, you must be a fan.
My car is quite fuel effecient, practical, but can beat yours up and down the block, so if that's an extension, so be it.

Dr. Melfi, I'm a caring, sensitive soul who hates kids - Oh, that's normal...

feel their kids are special, periodcause I think most parents think their kid's are God's gift.. to themselves. :)

But I am not wild about parents who have to praise up every little thing their kid does, not because they are excited (that I can handle, though, I know it's boring to non-kid-oriented folks). But I really can't stand the one-uppers. You know. "Oh. Your little sweetie can't read yet? My Johnny's been reading Doystevsky since he was 2."

Man that burns me up almost as much as the parents who let their kids just run wild. Moderation, people. Please. Don't ignore them. Don't smother them. Just parent them, already.

That means keep them quiet in public places where screaming is inappropriate. Anything that can't keep quiet, or that shits on itself, doesn't need to be in a restaurant that has actual waiters and waitresses. Go to fucking Burger King.

Oh, yeah... and keep the milestones to yourself. Nobody cares.

but there are actually family restaurants with waiters and waitresses.

And in some cases, you can't get a kid too "shut up" if it is too young to understand that issue, no matter how great a parent you might be. Esp if it is sick or hurt.

If your kid isn't ready to behave in public, get a sitter. Or, better yet, stay home and spend some time teaching the kid how to behave. Don't ruin my night out. If your kid is sick or hurt, what the fuck are you doing dragging it all over town and torturing the rest of us?

I don't know how many times my husband and I planned and prepared to have an all too rare night out alone without children at what was a more adult restaurant, only to have to deal with someone else's child interupting our meal.
I mean, if you're at a family type resurant like IHOP or Friendly's, it's to be expected, but some nicer restaurants, especially if you're dining later (like 8pm or later), the last thing you want or should see is a cranky, overtired, loud child. It's not the children though, it's parents with little skills.

edit: spelling

I never blame the child. NEVER. It's entirely due to parents who are unwilling or unable to properly discipline their children... and discipline does NOT mean "punish," it means "INSTRUCT."

I have a gaggle of nieces and nephews whom I adore, including children of my friends, wholly unrelated to me by blood. As often as I can, I am pleased to take these kids off their parents' hands for a trip to the beach, to Disneyland, or just to hang out with Uncle Farmer for the day. There is nothing more beautiful than a happy child. Even an asshole like me, who made a CHOICE never to have children can see that. But an ill-disciplined child is an ugly thing. When the kids spend time with me, they know they're going to behave, or I'm going to turn this car around RIGHT NOW.

I don't hate kids... I hate bad parenting. Keep your kids away from me, until you are willing to take the time and effort to get it right.

of emergency runs to Wal*Mart to get cough medicine or a sudden onset of teething pains. That sort of thing.

Sometimes kids aren't sick when you leave the house with them, you know. They get sick after you arrive at wherever it is you are going. At which point, yea, you're going to take them home if you are a decent parent. But in that _short_ time that you are there before you realize this kid is not going to calm down and that something is wrong, there's an off-chance the kid's noise over their discomfort is going to destroy someone else's peace and quiet for a while.

To that I say: oh well. Drink your wine. My kid's sick, we'll be gone soon enough. Live with it.

Why should I have to live with it? Why? You've ruined my night out, why must I live with it? I did nothing to you, why should I suffer? When I'm sick, I don't start screaming. If I did, someone would take me to a hospital... or at LEAST take me home. Why is your brat allowed to scream somewhere where MY screaming wouldn't be tolerated? If anything, I should have MORE rights than a child, not FEWER.

If your kid is sick, take it home. You decided to have kids, now do your fucking job.

I just explained to you they sometimes get sick AFTER you've arrived somewhere. And are you so sensitive the 5 to 10 minutes that the parents take to get their things together and leave after the crying starts is really going to ruin your whole evening?

Why are they allowed to scream? Because they are young, that's why. I'm not talking 9 year olds here, I am talking about the 6 and under crowd. Really, they don't have much control over that sort of thing despite what you think. Or did you never cry when you got hurt or sick when you were a tiny child? In which case, your parents were very lucky.. but they were an exception to the rule.

But really, I look forward to the day when my kid breaks his arm in the middle of a crowd and some jerk says, "Hey, shut that stupid kid up. He's ruining my outing!" :eyes:

1. I'm not talking about 5 or 10 minutes, I'm talking about the ENTIRE MEAL.

2. No 6-year-old belongs in a real restaurant. Go to Burger King, go to IHOP, stay away from real restaurants. When I walk into Burger King, I KNOW what I'm getting into. The problem is self-indulgent perents who think their kids belong EVERYWHERE. Guess what? They don't.

3. Nobody is talking about broken arms. I'm talking about your spoiled brat who didn't get Chicken Fingers, and is going to scream about it for the next thirty minutes, while you change your infant's shitty diapers in the booth next to mine. Inexcusable. Get a sitter or stay home.

but I did take a later post of yours to mean any crying whatsoever, emergencies included.

But please stop saying "you" in these statements. I am not that kind of parent. And don't call my kids spoiled brats. You've never met them so how would you know? Don't buy into generalizing or stereotypes. I don't assume all people who choose not to have kids are hard-hearted and unnatural monsters. Don't assume all kids (you don't know) are brats.

didn't mean YOU you, meant "you parents who refuse to properly raise your children."

No, I never meant any crying. But any emergency means URGENCY, as in "get that kid to a doctor NOW." If the kid is sick enough to be shrieking in a restaurant he shouldn't BE in in the first place, the kid needs to see a doctor. And if he's shrieking over nothing important, why is he allowed in a nice restaurant?

It's very simple; I won't disturb your dinner; don't disturb mine.

The worst mine do is the little one will stand on a chair to look around. Usually if there is a kid on the other side of the booth wall to look at. But a firm "Sit" will generally nip that in the bud. And if he does it again, a trip to the bathroom for a talking to works things out.

FWIW, I don't like to have other people's kids running laps around my restaurant table any more than you do. :)

They behave themselves, and act like a young lady and gentlemen. Often, they are the center of other diners' attention because they are something of a rarity.

In fact, I have never been in a Burger King or other fast-food restaurant with them.

Not that I ever have, but if I want to, too bad for you. Don't read the post. You aren't the only one sharing this board, this internet, this world. Quit your self centered bitching.

most of us realize that not everyone else thinks so. Sure they can be annoying, and they can be wonderful. For me, as long as people hold the door for the stroller, that would be fine. I suspect that your parents thought you were special to behold at one time, too. Not sure we deserve an f-u though. :)

:shrug:

If your damn kid can't find its way home, how's it gonna ever learn anything?

while I was at the hair salon. He was 8 and waiting for his mom. I struck up a conversation with him. He and I talked until it was time for me to sit in the chair to get my hair done, and then again while my color was setting into my hair. We had a terrific little conversation. He spoke articulately (for an 8 year old) and given that I was keeping him occupied, he didn't get bored enough to get into any trouble.

Kids need to be kept busy, and one of the best ways to keep them busy is to give them some of your attention.

I imagine if the kids parents never gave him any attention, my efforts would have been useless, but thankfully you could tell that the youngster knew how to interact w/ people... which means that someone takes the time to interact with him.

MissMillie.

Most kids who are acting out in public are one of two things, too

- tired
- hungry

The parents have simply kept them away from home for too long for reasons that the parent may or may not be able to control.

Like anyone, I do hate sharing public space with unruly children. They make everybody's life difficult. They are interferring with my ability to enjoy the concert/play/movie/restaurant. Take your pick. And the parents really need to go home in that case.

But sometimes you can't go home; babysitters aren't always available. In that case, I feel for the parents.

in our neighborhood.

But it is annoying, I agree. Especially on an airplane--behind you---"whaaah! whaaah! whaaah! whaaah! whaaah! whaaah! whaaah! whaaah! whaaah! whaaah! whaaah! whaaah! whaaah!"

-- Allen <-- would not make a good daddy.

(Meaning PARENT... you silly goose. Not *that* type of "daddy"... so just stop it.)

There's a triad of asshole dogs around me, 2 seperate houses and the ones 2 rooms down the hall.

They're currently going nuts because said kid is going "Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! as he runs circles around the house"

Anyone have a rope they can loan me?

is not a good place for you to be in.

Any chance you can afford to move?? There are plenty of condos and gated communities that don't allow kids or pets.

OK, because of some asshole dog owners who can't or won't control their dogs, and asshole parents who can't or won't control their kids, DS1 has to move? How fucked up is that?

If I could afford my own place in a nice quiet area that allowed a single cat per renter, I'd already be there *sigh*

But no, no 'gated communities' for me if that's what you're implying.

But you never know. Maybe the folks you find bothersome will move out and quieter people will move in. *keeping fingers crossed*

But in any case, here's a an early "Happy House Warming" for you. :^)

I'm still brushing up on my carpentry skills so I can migrate to the mountains like the unabomber

Not necessarily head for the mountains, but hubby and I would love about 5 acres of our own land with a solar house we designed and built. And we can put as many gardens in wherever we want, and if we don't feel like mowing the lawn all summer, that's fine too.

*lol*

Being a kid is tough and raising kids is tough. Give the kids and their parents a break already. Show some kindness to a kid had he/she will reward you with a beautiful smile most of the time. And if that isn't enough to melt your heart, then you have a hard heart.

Put your stone here

hug them. (Scary, I know)

But I never saw anyone shake him off or yell at him. The worst he ever got was a sort of bemused, "Hey, I'm not your dad/mom".

kids are very outgoing. The ones I've ever known always want to hug and kiss everybody. LOL!

And I understand that yeah, they make noise, they don't always behave, etc. They're kids -- of course they do.

My problem is with parents who bring kids where they shouldn't be (an R-rated movie, for instance) or who are completely oblivious when their kids are bothering others.

often those of others irritate me if I am to confess. I cut slack to anyone under the age of 3 or 4 though, but there's too many parents who are selfish and do a crappy job and have monstrous brats as the children get older.

Even my own are tough, but at least they're smart and funny and well-behaved when they're old enough to venture out in the world more.

on edit: I should note I had been teaching young children because overall I really love children, but as time went on, I realized not every parent has what it takes to have children and the children end up with behavior and/or learning problems (I know bad parenting isn't always the cause either, but frequently it is). Often it's the teachers who end up caught between a rock and a hard place trying to help the children learn and behave, while parents get angry at the teachers for doing their job. I had to get out. I was at a crossroads with either continuing my education in that field or moving on. Between money (teaching doesn't pay well) and the types of stressors involved, it just wasn't worth it for me sadly.

Children though in stores are no worse than old people who are slow and in my way. I may not like it, but part of what we put up with in a society. :shrug:
I also hope that you personally, have had your vasectomy to not risk this yourself. Nothing wrong with not liking or wanting kids, just make sure you do what it takes not to bring any into the world then. Other methods can fail and you would have no legal say in what a woman decides to do and regardless, you would have an emotional and financial responsible in that case.

OK in small doses, but the drooling and noise and constant demands for attention get tedious.

As a divorced empty-nester, I've done my time. I like children and dogs but prefer the company of adults and cats.

Seriously, though. Not all people were meant to have kids. And I don't think it's evil of them to feel that way.

I do, though, think it's evil of them if the have kids anyway and make their lives a living hell.

So I respect you for deciding not to have kids and sticking with that plan.

I don't think you HATE other people's kids, but I think what you meant to say was that you HATE what they DO. Right?

So you're saying that you HATE the kids?

that's beneficial.

That's the answer to your question. Now mine: Just because I don't know what they do that's beneficial, does that mean that you HATE the kids, or simply hate what they do?

I see these two statements as two very different thing:

"I hate that child.

"I hate what that child says (or does)."

One is saying that you hate that child no matter what he or she does, has done, or can do. You hate the person of that child. The other is saying that you hate what that child is DOING or SAYING rather than hating the child him/herself. I hope that makes it a little more clear. :)

new way. Cheer me up when I'm grumpy. Ask really silly questions. I could go on. Isn't this axe getting a little dull, DS? I think you have made your point. Don't expect everyone to applaud though. All of us were kids at one time.

I used to work as a hotdog vendor...... "Mommy I want a hotdog!.. MOMMY I WANT A HOT DOG!"
I almost felt like yelling "WELL YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE YOU LITTLE BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!" ABout a million times.

I would have broken in about a week and done it.

In fact, I wish I could have had some.

But I do have a hard time with over-indulgent parents who let their kids disturb other people (like playing "slam the kneeling bench" during a meditative part of a church service or talking loudly during a classical concert that they're too young to sit through anyway). It is especially irksome when the parents get angry at other adults for being upset by this behavior.

In my former parish, there used to be a family whose two little girls were completely out of control and ran up and down the aisles during the service. The parents used to laugh it off and say that they wished that the pews had lockable gates. (The priest we had at the time was too wimpy to say anything.) This was particularly irritating to the older women in the parish, who knew from experience l that two parents should be able to keep a three-year-old and a five-year-old from running loose. (Hey, people, it's like this. One parent hangs on to each kid, get it?)

They were also super-sensitive about anyone doing anything but being totally indulgent to their children. Once when we were remodeling the social hall, there were chairs piled every which way in a corner, and the three-year-old started trying to climb the pile. As the nearest adult, I pulled her off the pile and told her gently but firmly that she could fall and hurt herself. Her mother appeared out of nowhere and started scolding me for suppressing her child.

This kind of nonsense went on until the children's grandmother visited. Sitting up front in the choir loft, I could see her getting increasingly angry and embarrassed. The next week, the little girls sat in the pews and played with drawing tablets and crayons.

If the parents can't instill basic standards of behavior in a preschooler, they shouldn't be surprised when the child is out of control at age thirteen or fourteen.

my favorite is when i'm in a restaurant and there's a brat at the table next to me screaming its head off and the adults at the table...IGNORE it! THANK you!

walk through the door in the evening and get attacked with hugs and kisses. If you have never experienced the unconditional love of a child, you may not understand that. If you are ever fortunate to have that experience, you will never ever say you hate kids again. If you don't ever have that experience, you are missing one of the great joys of life and have my sympathy.

My heart aches whenever I hear of a child being mistreated. The stories of abuse of children from Abu Ghraib are unbearable for me. Reading about the poor little girl abandoned by her parents this week made me want to get on a plane and fly to Maryland just so I could give her a big giant hug.

Anyone who says they want to do harm to a child or who "hates" children is despicable IMO.

I have two kids . I punish them when they misbehave. It works wonders .

God, what a pathetic little rant.

"Oh, woe is me! The world isn't perfect! Things don't always go the way I want them to! Mommy, make the big bad parents go away! Never mind that those kids will be protecting, feeding, and serving my decrepit ass when I am old an feeble! Wah! Wah! Wah!"

And I am sure you are the most lovely, inoffensive person in the world, with no character flaws, and everyone is just buried in joy the minute your august personage appears in any setting. :eyes:

All hail the one and true vision of perfection, DS1! All bow before his mighty and refined sense of perspective! All hail his witty repertoire and stunning arguments! Worship at the feet of his mighty whine! Revel in the fact that you share the same planet as such a shining example of human perfection! Sacrifice sheep in his honor -- just make sure they are quiet sheep!

on a public internet messageboard and have written all that in complaint, instead of just breezing by and calling me pathetic all in the same breath.

Fucking hilarious!

Gimmie a break, and keep quiet.

Thank you that is all.