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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:13 AM
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why do Freepers hate Jimmy Carter so much?
Is it too much integrity? They wouldn't recognize a real Christian gentleman if it bit them in the face.
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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:14 AM
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1. Because he is a nice, intelligent man
Edited on Mon May-31-04 01:19 AM by aquaman
They are intimidated by nice people.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:17 AM
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3. Do you mean intimidated?
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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:19 AM
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6. thanks
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:16 AM
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2. It is funny. Clearly they've no idea who the man is or was as president.
Edited on Mon May-31-04 01:21 AM by HuckleB
Carter was a true fiscal conservative who despised pork, and actually tried to reign in genuine waste in a way no other modern president has done. But the GOP fought him tooth and nail. Basically, Carter is the president we all say we want in office: Honest, filled with integrity, and focused on doing what's right within budget. It's funny that so many forgot that once we actually had him there.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:18 AM
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4. my sentiments exactly
Carter was a straight up, honest to goodness fiscal conservative. The GOP didn't like him because he didn't fill up the budget with pork barrel projects
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:19 AM
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5. Ask that question at a freeper forum, you'll get lots of answers, ...
... all of which will amaze you.

Jimmy Carter is a good human being. They hate him. Go figure.

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leftistagitator Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:26 AM
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7. He's a Christian
Those in the service of the wicked God they worship hate true Christians.
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vajraroshana Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 03:31 AM
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14. Right on!
They hate him because he's a "librul" Christian. No doubt!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:32 AM
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8. as an added bonus
Edited on Mon May-31-04 01:33 AM by rchsod
he served under one of the nastiest people in the navys history- rickover.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 02:50 AM
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9. it was called "malaise"
-then we swallowed the blue pill.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 03:22 AM
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13. But in truth, Carter never used that phrase...eom
n/t
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 09:15 AM
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19. That by itself is reason to admire him...
I gotta admit, I never had a very good opinion of Jiimmy when he was in office. Hell, I was just a kid then,and I listened to the loudmouths who said he wasn't "doing anything" to get the hostages out of Iran.

Years later, when I read about Hyram Rickover, and then learned that Jimmy served under the King of the Martinets, I got a WHOLE lotta respect for him. In fact, I'm almost in awe of the almost Zen-like way Jimmy has lived since he was President. His involvment with "Habitat for Humanity" is another example of living a good life.

I don't understand why the freepies hate him so much..
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 02:56 AM
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10. Because he's a democrat.
If Jesus was a registered democrat they'd all abandon christianity en masse.
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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 03:00 AM
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11. Because they are stupid fucking morons
And I curse Joseph McCarthy for not exposing Reagan for the commie that he was/is.

But then, on the other hand, I do take some comfort knowing that, at this moment, Ronnie is probably wallowing in a little pool of his . . .

never mind.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 03:21 AM
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12. Because (cough/mutter 'bullshit under breath) he 'gave away'
the panama canal, which enraged the neocons of the day, and the fossil repubs like ronald reagan, who used the issue skillfully.
in truth the u.s. had long agreed to eventually return control of the canal to panama and he was honoring that pledge.
Reagan, who used simple, easy-to-remember phrases as an integral part of his campaign, said, "We built it, we paid for it, it's ours." and bullshit like that.
it gave a pretty clear glimpse of how ronald reagan, the hateful old bastard, would be as president, or at least manipulated by the puppet-masters, as (i do not say this spitefully) i think the alzheimer's was affecting him early on.)
Also, his presidency was torpedoed by a warped hateful old mullah in Tehran, who held onto the hostages (or permitted "students" to do so)despite Carter's efforts to end the whole thing.
Later we find out that Reagan's team did much the same thing as Nixon's before Lyndon Johnson left office:
Through secret contacts with our adversaries, they informed Tehran "Wait. You'll get a better deal when we're in office."
you had private citizens attempting to conduct foreign policy, which is a violation of federal law.
he got away with it, but a lot of Reagan's people got convicted & sent to jail anyway.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 09:20 AM
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20. Didn't we have only a 99-year lease on the Canal, anyway?
Yeah, "We built it", but we only LEASED the land we scooped that ditch out of. The most intelligent complaint I ever heard about "giving back the canal" was that the US was ending the lease early...
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:09 AM
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27. We also engineered a civil war (Columbia/Panama) in order to get the land.
Edited on Mon May-31-04 11:47 AM by HuckleB
Panama had been a part of Columbia since independence, and a part of colonial Nueva Granada before that. The US wanted the area used for the canal in order to push its own economic development. When Columbia refused to make a deal, the US engineered a revolt/civil war to separate Panama from Columbia, thus leaving the US with a new government willing to make a deal.

It's another ugly chapter in our history that doesn't make the history books.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:47 PM
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32. History is always written by the "Victors"...
Never the Victims.

Just like how we overthrew Noriega when he started holding out on the CIA Drug Runners. Saddam and Osama should thought about that.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:29 AM
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23. there is no doubt he had alzheimers as President
He had full blown Alzheimers, admittedly, by 1994. Many people who worked for him in the 1980s remember lapses in memory, fogginess and sometimes utter confusion. Alzheimers can develop of years, gradually getting worse.
I think some Republicans loved Reagan so much because they were able to do what they wanted without the President actually restraining them because of the fog in which he lived.
They like Bush because he is too dumb to stop them.
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loathesomeshrub Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:37 AM
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30. That is exactly the reason my husband gives when I ask.
I wasn't here then, so I couldn't answer him before, but Carter is so obviously a good man, I couldn't understand it. I will show him your answer.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 06:31 AM
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15. Because they don't want to admit they were addicted to Billy Beer :)
Seriously though, it would probably be more centered around the fact that Carter wasn't a war-mongering asswhole who actually had concern for humanity and humanitarian efforts instead of global hegemony.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 07:13 AM
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16. Too intelligent
freepers despise intelligence. They worship Reagan and Bush who are not well-read or intellectually curious. Carter is the guy who highlights their deep feelings of inferiority. He's smart, a decorated veteran, and a genuine family man. Reagan and Bush are posers. Spokesmodels. Carter is the real deal. He didn't run from military service like the hawkish Reagan and Bush. He doesn't speak in folksy homilies written by other people. He's not prepackaged, additive ridden no nutrient swill like Bush.
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 08:16 AM
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17. "He was history's greatest monster!"
To quote Maude Flanders. I think it was Maude Flanders.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 08:44 AM
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18. Because he's a "do-gooder"
It's a cardinal sin in the eyes of the repubs to help the underpriveleged. And if that wasn't bad enough, he gets his efforts to help them published in the media way too often to suit them.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 09:31 AM
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21. He committed the unpardonable sin - He beat them in 1976.
Same reason they hate Clinton.
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 09:51 AM
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22. 'cause they're all a-holes
Edited on Mon May-31-04 09:52 AM by jukes
& they resent his sincere xianity w/o their hatred embedded in it.
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:49 AM
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24. Andy the Right Wing Republican doesn't hate Carter
He doesn't think Carter was much of a President, though Andy (under some duress) will give him credit for the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel.
Andy does hate Clinton -- but you'd expect that. I have a similar view of the current Chimp-in-Chief. But Carter, through his intelligence and honesty and his simple decency towards all mankind, transcends simple politics.
You gotta be a sick fuck or a Freeper (but then I repeat myself) to "hate" Jimmy Carter.
I wish we had two or three million more just like him. And I'd vote for him again if he ran for something.
John
My born-again buddy, Chip, reminds me a little of Carter: Non-judgmental, a friend to all, hard-working and just a good decent man. Doesn't smoke, doesn't drink -- has no bad habits other than driving like a freaking maniac. I mean Chip -- I have no idea what Jimmy's driving habits are.
It is now 19 days, 11 minutes to FUNDAY.

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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:55 AM
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25. My GOP mom
likes Jimmy Carter and was happy when he got the Nobel. She said he deserved it. She didn't think he was a good Pres. but thinks he has done many good things since.

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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:07 AM
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26. He exhibits the Christian values one should follow
Humility
diplomacy
The ability to laugh at oneself
compassion and kindness
leadership


Freepers would rahter put their faith in such fine human beings as Oxy Rush and Pat "We deserved 9/11 because of our sins" Robertson.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:32 AM
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28. I don't like him either - he was nasty to Howard Dean and I will
never forget it. That Sunday Dean went down there for his "blessing' and he, cruelly, told a reporter he didn't "invite" him. Even the obnoxious Lucianne Goldberg said it was horrendous for any host to say that about a guest (and he was standing right there)- even if it was true, he could have been gallant about it but he chose not to. I always heard he wasn't a nice person.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:34 AM
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29. Wow! Honesty. How terrible.
Nevermind the reality that he didn't want to give the impression that he was favoring any candidate.

He wasn't mean to Dean. Just ask Howard.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:55 AM
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31. Because he is Good and they are Evil nt
Edited on Mon May-31-04 11:56 AM by Feanorcurufinwe
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