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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 02:13 PM
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Does anyone remember the joke about the Texas Hitchker in a hailstorm ?
Told by Bill Moyers once about what Johnson said about the vietnam war
something about He felt like a hitchhiker in a texas hail storm,
to far to go back nothing ahead and ?????????
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 02:40 PM
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1. Here ya go
As you do the readings and watch the video, you should remember that several related dramas are taking place. First, the decision makers in Washington are trying to devise acceptable strategies and tactics to carry out those strategies in a political environment that is growing hotter and hotter. President Lyndon Baines Johnson (LBJ) is in the middle of a civil rights revolution and social welfare revolution with his Medicare and Great Society programs. Vietnam is the last thing he wants to be distracted by, yet he cannot escape it. As he tells his Press Secretary, Bill Moyers, who later resigns in protest over war policies, he feels like he is caught in a hail storm in Texas, he can't run, can't make it stop, and has nowhere to hide. His insecure personality as well as political pressure from the right wing will not let him run and no perfect policies exist that will let him hide. Things become hotter and hotter for him as his advisors, most specifically Defense Secretary McNamara, and former congressional friends conclude that the war cannot be won at an acceptable cost. He is attacked from the left by Robert Kennedy, and feels betrayed by the family that he supported when John Kennedy escalated our involvement. By the end of 1967, the public is turning against the war and more and more journalists are following the lead of public opinion and being more and more critical. All of this is well covered in Karnow.

http://www.usca.edu/polisci/apls345/a8.htm
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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 02:57 PM
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2. Thanks a ton and a half, owe ya one.
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 03:08 PM
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3. I see no joke here.
The link works, but there is no occurrence of the words "Texas", "hitchhiker", or "storm" on that page.

So what's the joke? Being both a youngster and a NotAmerican, I probably won't get it, but I'm curious.
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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 03:43 PM
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4. Sorry for the confusion C_eh_N_eh_D_eh
It's been years since hearing Bill Moyers tell the story as an analogy while interviewing some other famous person. Bill used the term hitchhiker and because it was a comparison the two had a slight chuckle over LBJ's colorful description of the hopeless situation.

moof is quite willing to admit that the memory of the details of this conversation may not be reliable.

It came to mind because the current resident of 1600 Penn ave. happens to call Texas home and would appear to be headed to the same position in the middle of nowhere.

So it may not have been a joke but just then fact that they both laughed or maybe Bill told it with more detail either way it sounds like you may be in the same boat with moof now wondering what if any is the punchline.

Almost everythinbg Bill ever did is repeated on PBS when it's on again
you'll be thought of, and if the chimp hasn't incinerated us all by then we'll try to get a line to you.
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