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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:34 PM
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This makes me SICK!!!! wtf is with people???
Cops: Mom used hammer on son over homework
1/5/2005, 5:14 p.m. ET
The Associated Press

ST. LOUIS (AP) — A 34-year-old Ferguson woman was charged Tuesday with using a hammer and pliers to punish her son for not doing his homework.
Police say Nancy Boyd-Porter had her other sons hold down the victim while she hit him in the hand with a hammer. She then squeezed the boy's fingers with a pair of pliers and threatened to break them.

The boy said she then threw the hammer at him, hitting him in the ankle.

Police said the mother admitted to using the pliers to frighten the child. She told detectives that she was punishing her son for not starting his homework before she got home that night.

Boyd-Porter faces four felony charges, including abuse of a child, first-degree endangering the welfare of a child, second-degree assault and armed criminal action.

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Information from: St. Louis Post-Dispatch











http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/national/index.ssf?/base/national-2/1104960869139760.xml&storylist=national
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:36 PM
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1. Hey, whatever works.
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 05:39 PM by Bleachers7
She must have learned it from Gitmo.

:shrug:
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:51 PM
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7. And .. she had the other children helping her!!!!!!!!!
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:05 PM
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11. I would have thought Pulp Fiction but there was no mention...
of a blowtorch.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:20 PM
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13. You mean like, "Son, if you haven't started your homework,..
....
....by the time I get home from work, I'm going to get some blowtorch carryin' (fellows) over here to get mideaval (sp) on your ass?"

"YOU HEAR ME, HILL BILLY BOY!?!? I'M NOT DONE WITH YOU! NOT BY A DAMN SITE!"

something like that?
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:28 PM
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14. Just like that Mr. Wallace.
Think I'll be staying away from those LA pawn shops.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:37 PM
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2. Stuff like this
makes me think we should make childbirth a privilege instead of a right.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:38 PM
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3. If ONLY! I'm with you RedQueen.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:43 PM
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19. A lot of times an abusive parent will scapegoat one kid for all the
abuse, sometimes rooking others to help her. She's a sick bitch. I wonder what happened to her as a child if she thought this was all right.
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Tony_Illinois Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:38 PM
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4. And then she voted . . .
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:45 PM
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5. Spare the pliers, spoil the child, I always say.
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SariesNightly Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:54 PM
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8. An interesting article contrasting the ways children are taught,
between conservatives,

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The Strict Father Model. A traditional nuclear family with the father having primary responsibility for the well-being of the household. The mother has day-to-day responsibility for the care of the house and details of raising the children. But the father has primary responsibility for setting overall family policy, and the mother's job is to be supportive of the father and to help carry out the father's views on what should be done. Ideally, she respects his views and supports them.

Life is seen as fundamentally difficult and the world as fundamentally dangerous. Evil is conceptualized as a force in the world, and it is the father's job to support his family and protect it from evils -- both external and internal. External evils incLude enemies, hardships, and temptations. Internal evils come in the form of uncontrolled desires and are as threatening as external ones. The father embodies the values needed to make one's way in the world and to support a family: he is morally strong, self-disciplined, frugal, temperate, and restrained. He sets an example by holding himself to high standards. He insists on his moral authority, commands obedience, and when he doesn't get it, metes out retribution as fairly and justly as he knows how. It is his job to protect and support his family, and he believes that safety comes out of strength.
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and progressives,

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The Nurturant Parent Model. The family is of either one or two parents. Two are generally preferable, but not always possible.

The primal experience behind this model is one of being cared for and cared about, having one's desires for loving interactions met, living as happily as possible, and deriving meaning from one's community and from caring for and about others.

People are realized in and through their "secure attachments": through their positive relationships to others, through their contribution to their community, and through the ways in which they develop their potential and find joy in life. Work is a means toward these ends, and it is through work that these forms of meaning are realized. All of this requires strength and self-discipline, which are fostered by the constant support of, and attachment to, those who love and care about you.

Protection is a form of caring, and protection from external dangers takes up a significant part of the nurturant parent's attention. The world is filled with evils that can harm a child, and it is the nurturant parent's duty to be ward them off. Crime and drugs are, of course, significant, but so are less obvious dangers: cigarettes, cars without seat belts, dangerous toys, inflammable clothing, pollution, asbestos, lead paint, pesticides in food, diseases, unscrupulous businessmen, and so on. Protection of innocent and helpless children from such evils is a major part of a nurturant parent's job.
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http://www.wwcd.org/issues/Lakoff.html


This is the long version. I read the shorter version from some blog some time ago, but lost the link.






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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:17 PM
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12. Thanks SariesNightly
It outrages me when I hear and read about these things. I know first hand the damage that this does to children having fostered at risk kids. They need to be protected!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:07 AM
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33. That's nice to read
hubby and I must be nurturant parents, based on that description. Good to know. We aren't perfect, but we're NOTHING like the first description.
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:41 PM
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37. plenty of liberals where raised in the strict father model
and plenty of conservatives were nurtured to pieces.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:46 PM
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6. Lock her up and throw away the key. n/t
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:56 PM
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9. Lisa Whelchel? was that the mother?
I've heard how she approves of "hot saucing" and using a clothes pin on a kids tongue for punishment.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:03 PM
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10. Let's ask Alberto Gonzales what he thinks.
I heard he's looked into stuff like this.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:32 PM
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15. I really do wonder sometimes if theres a virus going around
that affects people's psyches.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:39 PM
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17. What would possess someone to do horrible things
like that?
I hope they remove the children from the home, get her some really heavy duty counselling, punish her for her behaviour too .. then, see if the family can be reunited.
It's just all sad.

What people do to their kids :cry: :cry:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 08:53 PM
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23. It's probably the way she was treated as a child...
As I understand it, the majority of abusers were victims. However, the majority of victims do not grow up to be abusers.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 08:58 PM
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24. Either that or latent hostility toward her kids and
such resentment that any ol' excuse will do. Makes ya wonder if she worked herself up to it on her way home and how hard she patted herself on the back for thinking of it.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:50 PM
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26. It's all very sad.
What amazed me as much was the fact that she had the other kids involved.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:19 PM
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36. That is the worst of it...
When she's dead and gone, the resentment will live on in her children.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:38 PM
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16. This is why I say, and I know some will agree with me:
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 07:40 PM by SmileyBoy
We need to force ALL natural parents to have a "parenting license" in order to keep their kids. If a couple is expecting their first child, they would take a series of tests like you would for driving, and recieve a parenting license if deemed fit. As long as a parent is deemed worthy to be a parent, they would keep the license, no muss, no fuss. When each subsequent child is expected afterwards, they would need to renew the license, otherwise they would need to renew it twice before their only child turns 18.

You already need a license to drive a car, because if you abuse it, it might cost a life. You should also have a license to parent a child, because if you abuse it, it could also cost a life too.

This would take the pressure off of child services, would make the notion of child services taking children (who have been with their parents all their life) away from their parents, because if a couple is deemed unfit, the child would go staright up for adoption.

It makes me sick that most of these horrible abuse cases are being perpetrated by natural parents.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:40 PM
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18. Things like this make me REALLY mad that I can't have kids
People who love children and who would be gentle and humane with them can't have them. People who think kids are their property can whomp them out by the gross.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 08:13 PM
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20. While I understand your thought
and reasoning. Don't you think that ANYONE could pass a test at anytime? When you go for your drivers license, you drive perfectly fine, they grant you a license yet how MANY idiots are out there on the highways causing road rage and accidents?
Parenting classes are a definate plus in my opinion. We have lost the whole concept of extended families too. There was a time when we were less mobile, families stuck together and watched out for one another. I'm not suggesting that would prevent any child abuse, I'm just saying that perhaps the stress level in a household would be lessened, therefore making parenting a BIT easier(?) maybe?

aA
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 08:14 PM
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21. That's the kind of crime that makes even my bleeding heart
cry for "an eye for an eye."

It makes me sick.
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 08:28 PM
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22. That is all it takes...To get hurt bad enough
from the crazy doped up drugged, sociapaths that shoot down or slaughter with knives or hammers innocent people and then you change from Life to Fry em !
Thats all it takes ! To have someone you love upclose and personal get murdered and you feel like the perpertrator does not derserve to be here and have his or her eye on aother potential victim. Life does not mean Life in Prison. It means years until good behavior comes up on a Parole board. I can't help it. I surely changed my mind about capitol punishment Nov 14th 2004.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:58 PM
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27. Sounds like you need this.
:hug: I'm sorry for you.
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:47 PM
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30. We lost a lot of dreams that day
My son will never be the same and I want whoever did that to her
to pay for not only taking a life but destroying all of the families he ravaged. Our 14 year old who not only has JD and her own problems now is having to see a Shrink and the nut stalked that girl who had been a part of our family for 5 years. Yeah, you bet I changed my mind. I have not slept one night since this all happened.
Remember I got a VN vet husband already suffering from PTSD and hearing gunshots. Now we all sleep and wake up in a sweat knowing this precious girl got multiple ones in the head. We will never ever get over this !

Please don't feel sorry for me for changing my position on the death penalty , I just woke up and saw there are just some people who don't even act human and to kill someone ...correction 2 somebodies, an old man was murdered (her boss( with her. and wreck lives deserve the ultimate penalty under the law.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:17 PM
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28. I know the pain of losing someone to murder
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 10:17 PM by auntAgonist
I know the feeling when they (murderer) get Life in Prison. Imagine the pain when they appeal and get it reduced to manslaughter, then with time served the b*stard will be out in 2 years from now.

I am still not for capital punishment.
some people call me crazy ...



kesha.:shrug:
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:50 PM
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31. That is your opinion..and your right...I just
loved this kid like my daughter. I always wondered which way I would fall on that issue...Now I know.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:05 AM
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32. I can absolutely understand. NO argument here.
I was trying to be supportive of what you said.
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:15 AM
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35. I appreciate that.. Thank you .. ..
I am sorry if I misinterpreted, I sure got hit hard on this one.
I do appreciate the thoughts.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:19 PM
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29. I think I understand
:hug:
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:05 PM
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25. mom, is that you? n/t
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:09 AM
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34. Ay-yi-yi
how old was the boy? Not that that makes a big difference but DAMN. Makes me want to use pliers on her fingers.

When I first started reading it I was afraid it would say he had died.

:cry:
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