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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 05:49 PM
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it's July 1863, where is your family?
this is an interesting twist from the others going around.

my Dad's family is in Pennsylvania with one person fighting in Gettysburg.
My Mom's family is still in Italy.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 05:50 PM
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1. Moms family is in Poland and Cuba
Probably haven't converted to Catholicism yet, so most likely theyre still Jewish at this point. The Cuban side is practicing Judaism in Cuba.

Dads side, the great uncle is working aboard a whaling ship off the coast of New Bedford, Mass, trying to raise money to buy a farm in Iowa.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 05:51 PM
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2. Back in the old country
if you go back that many generations. Not sure but probably back in the old country before coming over here. That would be parts of Germany and Poland.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 05:51 PM
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3. The family is still in Norway and Sweden.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 05:51 PM
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4. Dad's family is around Saltillo, Mexico, and mom's is in Cuba.
:)
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 05:58 PM
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12. Norteño! Cool!
My dad's family was in Hidalgo del Parral, Chihuahua, mom's was in Agua Leguas, Nuevo Leon. One to the west of you, the other to the east!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 05:52 PM
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5. My father's ancestors are farming in Norway
Of my mother's ancestors, one side is running a hotel outside of Königsberg, East Prussia.

The other side is living in a village in Latvia.
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 05:53 PM
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6. One side in Oklahoma after the ethnic cleansing
The other are wondering around Texas.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 05:53 PM
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7. Great twist!
Edited on Sat Jan-15-05 05:57 PM by intheflow
My father's family were in Italy and Lebanon.

My mother's family was mostly in Iowa, but one branch was in Maryland. They were northern sympathizers so the Confederate Army occupied thier house and used it as a military base! Not sure if this was in July 1863 specifically, but it was in 1863. My mother has the letters they wrote after the army left their house.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 05:54 PM
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8. in America somewhere
I have no idea what they were doing.
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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 05:55 PM
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9. Dad's Great, Great Great Grandfather in Gettysburg - fighting with
the NY 54th (I think. He was captured there and died at Andersonville. Mom's family, still in Italy. Dad's family came here in 1625, Mom's - in 1920. I always felt I got the best of both worlds.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 05:55 PM
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10. My Mothers family is in Germany and Ohio
My Fathers is in Italy and Georgia.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 05:57 PM
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11. East Yorkshire on my mother's side
Working in various parts of the ship industry on the north bank of the river Humber.

Not sure about my father's side, probably in Lincolnshire.

All of this is in England, apart from a dash of Scots there's nothing to suggest we haven't been here for 1000 years.
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 06:22 PM
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13. I'd like to able to say one of them was with the
Fifty-forth Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry, but I don't know that to be true. Family history is pretty incomplete until after the Civil War ended.
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 06:25 PM
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14. My great great uncle is going AWOL
He was wounded in combat, and then decided to cut and run from the army field hospital. He was a Northerner.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 06:25 PM
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15. Let's see,
On mom's side, one half is in Norway, one half in Sweden.
On dad's side one half in Slovakia, and the last bit (his father's tree is the complicated one) but there was somebody fighting on the Union side in the Civil war--however I don't know if it was before, during or after 1863.
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JordanTO Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 06:26 PM
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16. Still in Scotland, I believe.
I'd have to ask my grandparents, to be 100% sure.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 06:27 PM
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17. Presumably, they're still in Italy.
They didn't emigrate to the U.S.A. until 1916.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 06:28 PM
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18. Mine were probably living on
farms in Poland - both sides. My husband's was already in California, working as blacksmiths in Big Oak Flat near Yosemite.
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 06:33 PM
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19. My were in Prussia
Which was Poland at the time
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 06:34 PM
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20. My father's great grandfather is in New York City
moderating the draft and in the thick of the riots. His house is getting burned to the ground and his family is barely escaping.

My mother's family are in Italy where they own vineyards in Avellino.
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 06:36 PM
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21. Some are here and others are still in Europe
My Mom's maternal great-grandfather is a private in the Union army - The GAR...

My Dad's family is still in Italy, Scotland and France.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 06:48 PM
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22. In Turkey somewhere
They were Greeks, trying not to get killed by the Turks.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 06:51 PM
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23. Northern Ohio, working the underground railroad!
According to the stories.

Others in Kentucky, Upstate new york, Scotland, and Wales.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 06:53 PM
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24. California
Great-great Grandpa was a boatwright for the Pacific Mail Steamship Company. Another Great-great Grandpa, who served under Captain David Farragut at Mare Island, left his family in California to serve again under Farragut at the battle of Mobile Bay. Family folklore says that he was an old salt with a foul mouth and that he told his good buddy Vice-admiral Farragut "Damn the torpedoes! Full steam ahead!". ;)
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 06:54 PM
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25. In Poland and the USA
A large part of the American branch is about to return to the old world, though.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 06:57 PM
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26. Northwest Missouri
farming they were all here when the territory opened.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 06:59 PM
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27. Not here yet.
They were farmers in Ireland & Germany.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:01 PM
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28. Safely tucked in rural Galicia, Spain
Must've been a pretty dull life. Unless there was some unusual hardship at the time that I don't know about.

17 years later, my paternal grandfather would be born. It's almost certain my greatgrandfather was already born and started going to school. But it's very possible my greatgrandmother didn't.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:02 PM
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29. Most of them still in slavery in VA
Edited on Sat Jan-15-05 07:04 PM by fortyfeetunder
We are still trying to trace back where they were (exact location). We know they existed. We know most of them were in Virginia, but since a couple of them changed names after the Emancipation Proclamation, we don't have a straight story.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:09 PM
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30. French Canada and Europe
The US hadn't gotten us yet.
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catbert836 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:11 PM
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31. Dad's family is in Canada and Poland
The Canadians were orignally from Ireland, but the British deported them for piracy. I think a few of them went down to New York a year later and enlisted. Mom's family is still peasants in Germany and Sweden.
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:16 PM
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32. Mine is on both sides of the field
Once is a captain in a PA Volunteer Regiment, the other is leading a Virginian division.
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:19 PM
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36. wow, what rank was the virginian officer?
colonel?
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:28 PM
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39. It was actually major general
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:30 PM
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41. Early? Pickett? Ewuel(sp?)? heh, Longstreet or Jackson?????
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:37 PM
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43. It was Pickett
He was my great-great-great uncle. His brother came up north after the war and married my great-great-great grandmother. Her brother was the one who fought as a captain at Gettysburg.
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:40 PM
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45. wow, that's awome!
that's certianly something that never came up during the movie "gettysburg" that picket had a brother on the other side. learn something new everyday. :-)
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:39 PM
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44. Now my dad's side of the family I don't know what they did
I actually took a look at the enlistment rosters of NJ regiments during the Civil War and found some Emley's most of which deserted so taking in considerarion the reputation of the rest of his family they are probably my ancestors.
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:34 PM
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42. trimble? Stuart?
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:18 PM
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33. Northwest Europe.
Edited on Sat Jan-15-05 07:18 PM by Cobalt Violet
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Cooper Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:18 PM
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34. South Carolina
fighting for the CSA. i'm an authentic son of Confederate vets.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:21 PM
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37. Sherman marched through Georgia ...
... but his army really took it out on S.C. (first state to secede).
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:58 PM
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48. Sherman was hardly kind to Georgia, though. I live near

a city he occupied and burned to the ground. There are photographs of him and his officers standing in front of the house they occupied while here. The war was all around us here.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 09:53 PM
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56. War is all hell
in 1863, or 2003
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 10:28 PM
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57. Indeed. See my post #53 for more tales of war as hell. nt
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:18 PM
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35. Austro-Hungarian Empire
in Serbia and Croatia (later Yugoslavia)

All 4 Grandparents came over a year or two before WWI.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 10:37 PM
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58. The same for my family
Except they were in Galicia (now Ukraine).
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:22 PM
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38. Normandy
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:29 PM
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40. july 1663
he was being tortured to death by the indians.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:42 PM
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46. Andersonville Prison, POW
(not sure of the exact date)
He lived through it.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:43 PM
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47. Depends on which side.
My dad's side is primarily old time English that came over in Colonial times (even someone on the Mayflower).
My mom's side primarily came from Sweden in the 1870s, so I suppose back then, most were still back in the "old country".
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AlFrankenFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 08:12 PM
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49. Dad's family is fighting for the Confederacy
Mom's family is somewhere in Ireland and Hungary.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 08:14 PM
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50. well
Most of my dad's family was in America or in Ireland or Germany, and a distant relative had just been discharged from military service from the 123rd pennsylvania. My mom's family was in Slovakia and Slovenia.
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 08:19 PM
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51. Dad's family is in Indiana; Mom's family in Maryland...(n/t)
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drumwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 08:20 PM
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52. I have no idea
except that they were all in Korea.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 08:24 PM
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53. My dad's family is still in England, all or most in

Devon, where one side has been prosperous farmers and merchants for generations and the other side of the family tree has sailors (merchant seamen, not Royal Navy) climbing the branches. I know my paternal ancestors back to around 1500.

One side of my mother's family is in Massachusetts (my great-grandfather, a young boy at the time) and possibly New York (my great-grandmother) -- possibly Ireland, possibly Canada. I'm working on these lines now, trying to get confirmation of their birthdates, which will help me know who their parents were.

The other side of my maternal ancestry includes a great-grandmother who married in December 1861, just before her husband left with the Confederate Army. She was widowed within six months, and in 1863 is almost certainly living on her father's farm in South Carolina. She is about 18 now, was a bride and a widow at 16.

The man who will eventually be her second husband, and my great-grandfather, is fighting with the Army of Tennessee. They left their parents and sisters on the family farm in middle Tennessee to enlist. He and his youngest brother are in the 35th Tennessee Infantry, the middle brother is in the 16th Tennessee Infantry. In July of 1863, my best guess is that they are marching from Hooper's Creek, TN, to Chickamauga, GA, not knowing that the youngest brother will be dead in the spring of 1864, still not 20 years old.

War is always full of sorrow.
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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 08:25 PM
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54. Watching their childen starve and die
Edited on Sat Jan-15-05 08:26 PM by mr_hat
in Co. Claire, Ireland, during the potato famine.

edit -- sp.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 08:43 PM
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55. father's grandfather on his mother's side was with the 11th IA
fought at Shiloh and Corinth...his later wife's family was in Illinois (previously in MD and earlier in PA and earlier still in Germany and Ireland)...father's grandfather's family had moved to IA from the Shenandoah Valley, so they had close relatives on the Confederate side.....that family had moved to VA (both father's and mother's sides) from PA and earlier from Germany and Switzerland to PA

on father's father's side--family still in Switzerland

one of my mother's father's ancestors was an 'irregular' fighting in NC....one of her ancestors on her mother's side fought from KY in the War of 1812

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outraged2 Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 10:39 PM
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59. Georgia and Texas n/t
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 10:44 PM
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60. Mexico
and the other half maybe in Spain but it's possible they are both in Mexico at that time.

I'm in MI now. Maybe I'll get the bloodline to Canada in the near future.
;)
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:59 AM
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61. kick for the night crew
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:04 AM
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62. Uh
on both sides of my family, we are in Texas and have been for quite some time.

Sad, I know.
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:07 AM
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63. heh, it's ok, my dad's side has been in PA since the 1600s
my moms side came over from Italy in the 1910s
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:10 AM
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65. On one side of my family
we've been in Texas since *1782* Texas wasn't even CLOSE to being a STATE then.

And we're still here.

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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:08 AM
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64. Flores, Azores
my dads side
Torino, Italy...mom's side.
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BBradley Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 02:10 AM
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66. Dad's family is in Ireland, Mom's family is fighting on both sides.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 03:18 AM
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67. I think I know where I was in a former life in 1863...
But that wasn't the question, was it?

Oh yeah, my PRESENT family: My father's family was in Pennsylvania; and my mother's family was in Italy and Pennsylvania.
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