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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:05 PM
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Jon Stewart would kick Joe Trippi's ass....and he should!!
http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vptri274126303jan27,0,6197121.story?coll=ny-viewpoints-headlines


Shooting itself in the foot
How 'Crossfire' mirrored our devolving political discourse, and how the show's end is actually a bad thing

Joe Trippi

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Jon Stewart, the comedic host of "The Daily Show," got it all wrong. Stewart, as everyone knows by now, went on "Crossfire" last October and declared it "bad for America." Well, I love Jon Stewart - he is one of my favorite people on TV today - but I dare say there are people in this country who would say his show is bad for America. Just as I am certain there are people who believe Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews and even Judy Woodruff are bad for America.

What Stewart got wrong is that it is the current state of our politics, our leadership and our discourse that is bad for America - "Crossfire" just reflected that better than any other show on television. Watching the show's slow decline had become the best way to watch the slow poisoning of our politics.

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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:06 PM
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1. also stewart is not the real reason they are stopping crossfire
jon does not have that kind of power
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:07 PM
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2. He did play a role in the cancelation of "Tough Crowd With Colin Quinn,"
though. For that alone, he deserves eternal gratitude.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:08 PM
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3. he did?
yay for him!
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:10 PM
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6. what did he do?
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:14 PM
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8. I'd read - though I can't find a link right now - that Stewart
pressured Comedy Central to put a different show behind The Daily Show. That, combined with the fact that Tough Crowd wasn't pulling the kind of ratings that The Daily Show was, led to its demise.

As you can now see, The Daily Show is followed every night by... another episode of The Daily Show.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:27 AM
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17. Jon & Colin Quinn are old friends from the comedy clubs...
...I think "Tough Crowd" died because it was unfunny and uncomfortable to watch. I have a hard time believing JS would do such a thing to an old friend (like using his pull to destroy the show).

However, I do believe JS had something to do with the demise of Battlebots and that horrible bowling show that was on for a few weeks.
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Darknyte7 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:11 PM
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7. I agree...
Tough Crowd had to go. Thanks to Jon for whatever his role was in having that awful show canceled.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:09 PM
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5. That's right... the exposed truth is what stopped Crossfire
that it was a big joke was exposed.
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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:09 PM
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4. crossfire is coming off the air?
harrumph. why?

what am i gonna watch now to see Fucker Carlson's whiny little complaints? or Bob NoFact's complete dissregard for the truth?

-LK
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:48 PM
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9. Feel like a jerk replying to my own thread...
but doesn't anyone feel a touch of anger that the seemingly self-professed 'King of Everything'has placed judgment on Jon Stewart and the Daily Show?

If Trippi's such a great producer of shows why doesn't he get on the air and do one? (and stay away from Stewart..whom he seems to be jealous of!)


He also has had plenty of chances to opine on Crossfire and waits until the show gets axed to say something...what is he gonna do...bring it back as the Joe Trippi show? ASS!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:50 PM
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10. Jon Stewart was 100% correct imo and Joe Trippi has sold his soul
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:54 PM
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11. Thanks!
:hi:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:55 PM
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12. i can't have smack talk about Jon
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:57 PM
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13. Whatever else I may think of Trippi
I can't say I disagree with the quoted passage:

it is the current state of our politics, our leadership and our discourse that is bad for America - "Crossfire" just reflected that better than any other show on television. Watching the show's slow decline had become the best way to watch the slow poisoning of our politics.
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:58 PM
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14. Trippi IS an ass...
and an arrogant, self-important one at that!

Good thing he's delusional about the grandeur of his importance.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 03:56 PM
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15. Did you say impotence?
politically I mean....
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 03:58 PM
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16. Well Debi, YES I DID! How nice of you to agree! n/t
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:04 AM
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18. Crossfire is being cancelled for one reason...
Carville and Begala routinely make their Republican counterparts look foolish. There's simply no way CNN was going to allow that to go on indefinitely -- if it were the other way around (Hannity & Colmes), the show would be on the air forever.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:29 AM
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19. I agree with you Jeff
Crossfire was really one of the few, if only, shows on the air where an outspoken Democrat (and, not even liberal Democrats at that!) was able to get in a few words without the host being able to control things...
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:58 AM
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20. *Everybody* WIshes They'd Said What Stewart Said
So they're saying shit like this instead.

Jon Stewart has been bitching about Crossfire for years.

Doing a quick search to see just how long he's been bitching about Crossfire, I checked the archives of the Columbia Journalism Review, where Jon Stewart is often mentioned - usually, as the only one asking any real questions. Press watchdogs like CJR think Stewart was on the money; I think Trippi may be a little out of his element here.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:11 PM
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21. More like a little out of his league!
I think the only reason for the article was to get Trippi back in the news...Maybe we should start a new show and Joe Trippi could be the moderator, Yeah, that's the ticket (sorry John Lovitz). His ego is too big for CNN (Trippi, not Lovitz).
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m_welby Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:22 PM
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22. how completely stupid that is
Trippi must be stupider than I thought. If (as he says) "What Stewart got wrong is that it is the current state of our politics, our leadership and our discourse that is bad for America - "Crossfire" just reflected that better than any other show on television."

Doesn't that mean the crossfire should have been pointing that out and refocusing the discourse on real issues? shouldn't they have been putting those who are 'poisoning' politics in the 'hot seat'? Isn't it journalism's job to point these things out?

What an ass!!
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