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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:31 PM
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So how do the Marlins stack up against the Yankees or Sox?
I have not paid one second's attention to that team. Fill me in.

Bereft condolences, Cubs fans. :(
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:33 PM
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1. I know the Sox don't care
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 10:57 PM by NewYorkerfromMass
'cuz they'll wail on whatever pitchers get thrown their way.


Name Team W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV IP H R ER BB SO
J. Beckett FLA 1 0 3.52 2 2 1 1 0 15.1 10 6 6 2 16
C. Pavano FLA 0 0 2.35 3 1 0 0 0 7.2 8 2 2 1 8
M. Redman FLA 0 0 2.70 1 1 0 0 0 6.2 8 2 2 4 3
U. Urbina . FLA 1 0 3.00 3 0 0 0 0 6.0 2 2 2 0 8
R. Helling . FLA 0 0 6.35 2 0 0 0 0 5.2 7 5 4 4 5
C. Fox ... . FLA 1 0 5.40 3 0 0 0 0 3.1 5 2 2 2 2
D. Willis ... FLA 0 1 18.90 2 1 0 0 0 3.1 4 7 7 6 4
B. Penny .. FLA 0 1 21.00 2 1 0 0 0 3.0 9 7 7 3 0
N. Bump. .. FLA 0 0 6.00 2 0 0 0 0 3.0 3 2 2 0 3
B. Looper . FLA 0 0 0.00 2 0 0 0 1 1.2 1 0 0 1 1

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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:40 PM
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7. The pitching makes me nervous
Urbina's the only relief pitcher I have full confidence in. I worry about Penny and Willis. And don't get me started about Chad Fox.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:44 PM
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9. Dude, the Sox dealt Urbina
and that pissed off Martinez. Some potential instant karma here. :(
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:46 PM
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11. Yeah and he just threw some nasty stuff to end the game
:scared:
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Braden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:27 AM
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26. threw a wild pitch on 3-2 that almost hit the leadoff man
and the Cubs had no patience. I couldn't believe Simon was flailing away.

Ugueth likes put the tying run at the plate, just to challenge himself. But the Cubs were really feeling the pressure.

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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:34 PM
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2. I think they'll compete
Personally, I think it will be RedSox versus Florida. The Marlins have struggled a bit offensively, but got hot these last two games. The starting pitching has been decent, but I'm getting a little concerned. Beckett is probably the ace. Pavano and Redman are decent, while Willis has stuggled as of late.

After beating two excellent teams in San Francisco and Chicago, I don't see them going away easily.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:34 PM
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3. Well...
guess we'll find out now. x(
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:34 PM
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4. maybe you should wise up
they are young, hungry and winners
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:35 PM
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5. Well, the Marlins have my favorite player ever...
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 10:36 PM by VelmaD
Pudge Rodriguez. Arm like a freakin' cannon. And he's been swinging the bat like a madman during the playoffs - has a hit in every game and a shitload of RBI.

And I'm thinking he would really like a piece of the Yankees after all the years on the losing side over in the AL with the Rangers.

I'm sad for the Cubs fans and I was really hoping for a Cubs/Sox World Series...but I'm thrilled to death for Pudge and I'm laughing my ass off that the Rangers were stupid enough to let him get away and now he's going to the World Series and they aren't. :evilgrin:
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:44 PM
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8. Hey! There was only one "Pudge"
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 10:45 PM by NewYorkerfromMass
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:48 PM
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13. Believe me, no offense is intended...
to Carlton with that nickname. When Rodroguez first came into the Rangers organization he was a little roly-poly and got saddled with Pudge as a nickname and it stuck (despite the fact that he's in tremendous shape now).

Heck, there are worse people that could bear the same nickname as Carlton Fisk. :-)
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:37 PM
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6. (Self-censored)
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 10:41 PM by blackcat77
I shouldn't post stuff when I'm angry.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:47 PM
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12. Let's hope Man-Ram get's a cold and sits a couple of games....
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:46 PM
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10. I refuse to watch a Yankees-Marlins World Series
I will boycott an watch videos of old World Series instead.

A matchup with the Red Sox would be good, but I think it would be irresponsible for anyone to call the Red Sox the favorite in a World Series.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:49 PM
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14. ?
?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:53 PM
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16. we'll see what Las Vegas says
about "favorites"
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:53 PM
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17. Boy that was one dumb ass post...
What...you gonna pull out the old black and whites of the A's world series what???....50 years ago?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:16 PM
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20. Try 1989
That may seem like a long time ago to a fan of an expansion team.
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:04 PM
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19. They're ratings would go straight in the tank w NY/FL
The Sox and Cubs both have a nationwide fan base. FL hasn't been around long enough to have any real support outside their own backyard and there are more people that HATE the Yankees than who like them.

Sox/Cubs would have been a series for the ages...

But if Boston wins tomorrow, I'll at least peek in to the games occasionally, otherwise I'll ignore it.
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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:53 PM
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15. They beat either one.
My bet is it's the Sox they beat, because it would be unfair for Chicago fans to have the Lion's share of frustration.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:54 PM
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18. If the Sox win they'll want an asterisk
but I risk speaking too soon here. there is much business to attend to yet.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:24 PM
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21. Very, very well.
This may be the best team in baseball right now. As has been stated repeatedly, they have the best record in baseball since early May. They've got fair pitching, with a couple of guys that can be overwhelming. They're incredible in the field, and it's incredibly difficult to steal a base against Ivan. Their bats are quite good in general and incredible in the clutch. Finally, their speed is sensational. Neither AL catcher will be able to stop these guys from swiping a few.

There will be no favorite in the World Series in my mind.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:27 PM
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22. The Cubs actually handled our speed pretty well
Pierre was only 1/4 in stolen bases. Castillo got 2 in one game, but none in the rest. But your point is well taken. Florida has speed that impacts the game in a lot of ways. They can make infielders make poor throws by rushing them.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:44 PM
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24. Actually, you're right.
Watching the first game, I thought the Marlins speed was going to make it a very quick series. Somehow, the Cubs did all right, and without very much behind the plate.

Congrats!
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:31 PM
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23. 30 games over .500
Shortly after McKeon took over they went on a slight slump. Then they went the rest of the season 30 games over .500. They were and still are the hottest team in baseball. They will win no matter who they face. The top of the order is hell on any pitcher, and that's pretty much all they need. Their pitching is adequate enough to win.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:19 AM
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25. The Marlins are clearly destined to win this year
If I were a Red Sox fan, I'd be dreading this potential matchup.

The Marlins win and know how to devastate the opposing team's fans in the process.

Just as Giants fans and Cubs fans. (And Indians and Braves fans in 1997, for that matter.)

If it's Red Sox/Marlins, I sense another 1986 coming on.

:scared:

--Peter
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:33 AM
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28. How can I dread the match up
when it is presently the only road to glory? :shrug:
That was so completely illogical I don't know what else to say.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:48 AM
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30. Do you remember 1986?
Edited on Thu Oct-16-03 10:49 AM by pmbryant
;-)

Illogical perhaps, but it does make sense in a strange way.

(Red Sox would have had some chance of winning against the Cubs (or Braves or Giants). But against the Marlins, I don't see it happening.)

--Peter
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:30 AM
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27. Marlins are gonna get clobbered
No matter who wins the AL pennant
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:38 AM
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29. 2 Wild Card teams, assuming Sox win...
That would be a first. I think it's uncharted waters here. The Marlins are in a dream world right now, and if the Sox win they'll have already won the REAL World Series. It kind of reminds me of the the NCAA Final Four: the best games are the semi-finals, not the championship game.
Anyway, I rate that series (Sox-Fish) as a tossup. As the Fish just experienced, ANYTHING can happen.
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:54 AM
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31. Beware the 8th Inning!
That's when they GET you!!

I hope the Sox make it, but even more do I hope that whoever comes out of the ACLS CRUSHES the Marlins!

:argh:

The Plaid Adder
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