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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:54 PM
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Seinfeld while stoned.
Disclaimer: Let me say in Seinfelds defense that the first time I got really fricking stoned I was watching a Seinfeld episode. It was the episode about a wedding in India that went backward, it started from the ending and ended at the beginning. I you've seen it you know what I'm talking about. Let me say, this episode is the single greatest trip ever, it beats The Wall or Fantasia or Dark Side of the Moon or anything else you stoners got.

Now. I personally believe, and have been told by many others, and I'm sure that many of you agree that the stand up routing that Seinfeld did at the beginning and the end of the show wasn't the least bit funny. I mean the material really sucked. To this day, if a character in any show tries stand-up and is bad at it they're invariably doing a Seinfeld impersonation. Now the other day I was feeling, shall we say, a little conspiratorial while watching Seinfeld when it struck me. I had never heard of Seinfeld before the show. He went on tour after the series ended and, from what I've read, got booed off the stage on several occasions; furthermore, while doing the show, it was other writers that came up with the shows best material. So what if, perchance, Jerry Seinfeld is an actually good actor purposefully playing a bad stand up comedian, and that the show itself is actually about a second rate stand-up comedian who isn't funny and the funny adventures he gets in with his funny friends. It's just that the biggest fans of the show never got the joke.

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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:58 PM
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1. The guy makes me gag
He was a terrible comic before the show; he is a terrible comic today.
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Seneca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:59 PM
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2. Saw his HBO special back in 1981
He was a fair-to-middling stand-up comedian. There was no way of knowing back in 1981 that he would take that schtick to major 90's sitcom stardom. The routines at the beginning of each episode are (slightly) weaker than his real stand-up, but in the same vein - wry observational bits.

I never got stoned to the show - Kramer was all the trip I needed.
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L.A.dweller Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 08:00 PM
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3. Seinfeld really isn't a good actor
he was so stiff sometimes. If he were a good actor he would have starred in some movies by now.
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Traje Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 08:03 PM
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4. My Opinion of Seinfeld...
...is that is about as funny as reading Nietzche, and less than 1/8 as entertaining. I HATED the show. I've probably seen two or three complete episodes (during varying seasons), and its base, simplistic humour failed to make me smile even once!

I have no doubt that Seinfeld is a second-rate comedian. Hell, if the TV show is an improvement on what he can offer, his 'skills' must be limited indeed.
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 08:23 PM
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5. That was the concept of a show about nothing
A comedian that wasn't funny
A psycho clown (Kramer)
An ugly, fat, bald, lazy liar (George)
A beautiful normal woman who waste her life hanging out with them.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 09:00 PM
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6. As a stand up, his technique was masterful...
but the material wasn't very good (kind of the opposite of Bill Hicks)

The sitcom was the absolute best half hour ever on television. "No hugs. No lessons" was only part of its brilliance.
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:06 PM
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7. Bill Hicks!
I wish he were with us now! Damn! Wouldn't he be going off on the current state of things? Loved the Rush Limbaugh bit (it's on his "Rant in E minor" CD).
Re: Seinfeld
I thought the backwards episode clever, but a gimmick, not up to par with some of the character interaction/writing of some of the earlier episodes. However, I can see the appeal of it while stoned! Hmmm.
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