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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:42 AM
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Watching the movie "Downfall" during times like these is scary
seriously the parallel between those most loyal to Hitler and those loyal to Bush...I mean it's one thing to read about this kind of fanaticsm to one insane man in a history book but quite another to see it AMAZINGLY acted out on screen....

BTW GREAT GREAT WONDERFUL movie, probably now my favorite WW II movie of all time at least as a film that is based entirely on true events as opposed to creating a cool story in the midst of actual events..
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 04:21 AM
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1. Was it made for that reason? I have not seen it but I do like
history and read a lot and you do see that in history but usually I read or see that these rulers seem to always have people who think like them selfs and never see the real world. It is almost like they get no taste for what the people are really like. Ruling families were all alike and only mixed with the same type people. All gone now.Almost every Royal family were gone after WW1.. FDR seemed to have new thoughts and fell out of that line for some reason.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 04:58 AM
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2. The inside circle is only half the problem.
If you go to the Holocaust Museum in Washington, you learn that the other part of the problem is that you had a very fractured opposing party. The leftist were fragmented and fought each other, weakening the opposition to Hitler. Much like we have today.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 05:53 AM
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3. I would also think that would be the same in history.
Like if the serfs wanted any thing. The business class, church and royals all were not going to help them. They always seemed to have to get help from the middle group to get any thing. It must be really hard to go out of your class in thinking. Look at Bismark. We think of him and war but he really did a lot in social stuff. Really odd for what he was.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 01:08 PM
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4. One major similarity I saw also was
When Hitler announced he would commit suicide those closest to him panicked and could not even imagine a world without his rule. They depended on him staying in power just to get the illusion that THEY had power.

The movie was made in 2002. I think the purpose was to tell the story using film of the woman Hitler hand picked as his personal secretary and the things she saw being that she had easily the best seat in the house to watch Hitler's crumbling empire and sanity (as if he wasn't insane enough).
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