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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:32 AM
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Anyone else catch "Rudolph, the Red-Nosed Reindeer" tonight?
I love that show. It's as old as I am, and everyone is either a misfit or a prick.

(BTW, ever notice the voices of Peter Parker and J. Jonah Jameson are all over the place in that show?)
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:33 AM
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1. no. i'm waging war against christmas.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:48 AM
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2. yes
I think I enjoy it more than my son does. It somehow wouldn't be the season without seeing that and Charlie Brown Christmas.

However, the sexism and intolerance that are put out by Santa and the Reindeer are hard to take in this very different age. I find myself stunned by those very archaic attitudes about " being different."

But it all works out in the end.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:50 AM
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3. Yes, I'm appalled at the message Santa and the reindeer send!
I'm not kidding!

It does work out in the end, but only AFTER Santa can exploit Rudolph's "difference." Only then.

It creeps me out.

Probably a lesson in how the real world works, sadly.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:56 AM
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5. nah, I think it was just those weird intolerant 60s attitudes
that people have forgotten about....

I think most people are more tolerant of differences now. But then I may be naive. ;)
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:27 AM
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13. Santa Claus is a total asshole in that show
I LOVED this show as a kid, but it wasn't until I became an adult that I realized that Santa Claus is almost shockingly portrayed as a fucking jerk. He only comes around to Rudolph when he desperately needs his help, and with no apologies or anything.

I keep waiting for Rudolph to tell the fat bearded man to go stuff his bag of toys up his ass, then storm off to go work for that cool lion king on the Island of Misfit Toys.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 09:29 AM
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14. When we were young,
my brother and I thought the same thing: Santa, the reindeer coach, and Rudolph's father are the biggest bunch of pricks ever.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:16 AM
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18. but since that actual radical Burl Ives was narrating
maybe that was the point! ;)
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:57 AM
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24. LOL! I would watch that!
My father always says that his family is the Land of Misfit Toys. :D
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:53 AM
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4. I watched it--I've loved it since I was tiny
I want to run away and live on the Island of Misfit Toys, but they don't let humans live there. :cry:
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:36 AM
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22. Re; the Island of Misfit Toys...
there was not a damn thing wrong with that ragdoll. I think the little trust-fund bitch was just boho slumming. How trendy. :eyes:
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:58 AM
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25. True - what was supposed to be
wrong with the doll? :shrug:
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:00 PM
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26. A bloated sense of entitlement. n/t
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 09:09 PM
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40. Everyone sing along....."We're a couple of Misfits.....


C'mon Glenn, Jerry, speak up!
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:57 AM
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6. no i missed it tonight...
i totally spaced it out ,cause i was watching season 4 of smallville "again"....:)
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:09 AM
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7. Ah, Kristin Kreuk.
You're forgiven. :)
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:24 AM
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8. forget kristen....
her character annoys me to no end, its all about Lois now...and Chloe still..i would take choloe/lois over lana any day...:) and the show is god damn great...but i'm biased, i'm a superman fan...to the core...:)
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:32 AM
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9. Yes..
Which was stupid; because I bought it in a christmas box set with Frosty and two more christmas stop motion movies..I just love it. Now I need to buy the Charlie Brown one and I'l be happy.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:46 AM
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10. Nobody wants a *Charley* in the box!
God, that thing's burnt in my brain. "Holly-jolly Christmas" will be in my head when most everything else is gone and forgotten.

And my kids are disinterested too. Animation's too low-rent. Kinda makes you sad.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:17 AM
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19. my son said
that's a boring tree! Not lit up enough I guess.

Yes, those were innocent times.... ;)
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:47 AM
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11. It's not Christmas without Rudolph!
I love that show!
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:44 AM
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12. I can't stand watching that show on TV anymore.
They chopped the shit out of it to fit in more commercials. You can find it on DVD for under $10 and see it the way God (and Santa) intended.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 09:56 AM
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15. I love the show but have to control myself around the wife
because of all the potential to make innuendo-ish comments about the various characters and scenes.

We've reached an agreement where I have to keep my comments to myself when we watch it on T.V. However, I can let loose whenever we watch it on DVD.

And, yes, even with a DVD version in the house, tradition from our childhood demands that we watch the televised edition whenever possible.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:18 AM
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20. yeah, haven't you seen the version
done by the Mr. Bill guy? That's pretty evil.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 09:58 AM
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16. No sex threads, please
Even if cleverly disguised by euphemism: "catching Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer," indeed. Harumph. What do I look like to you people: a fool? :mad:
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:08 AM
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17. Sure,
Hermie is Gay
Rudolph is Black
Clarisse is Janis Ian
Yukon C. is Jewish
Santa is a Republican
The Abominable is the Soviet Union
Rudolph's parents are Ike and Mamie Eisenhower
Sam the Snowman is Carl Sandburg
Coach Comet is Knute Rockne
King Moonracer is the Pope

This show has done more than anything else to advance the cause of equality over the last 50 years...... :eyes:

Why hasn't the RW come out against it?
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:50 AM
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23. I disagree.
Rudolph is Mr. Willard.

The Abominable is Mr. Kurtz.

Santa is the Military-Industrial Complex.

Clarisse is the French Plantation.

Sam is The Journalist.

Yukon is Mr. Colby.

All the rest are heads on stakes in Kurtz' compound.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:04 PM
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27. That's good too
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:48 PM
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36. Ike and Mamie Eisenhower had a black kid?
And the Republicans didn't shit all over them like they did McCain??
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:19 AM
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21. Very controversial .... there is some controversy about it....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x4378651
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Err Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:05 PM
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28. I watched "A Christmas Story" instead.
It was on TNT or TBS (forgot which of the two channels).
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:37 PM
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29. Oh not that bourgeois nightmare!
It has the elitist residue of christofascism masked with a childhood fable facade dripping from it's paternalistic blowhole!


I don't know what I just said.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:28 PM
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30. You said blowhole.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:35 PM
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33. ah
:rofl: Chavez!

I can't stop...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:31 PM
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31. Yes
Watched with the kids. My eldest daughter told her little sister that she didn't believe that Rudolph was real, but she believes Santa is.

:shrug:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:32 PM
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32. I showed it to Tavernertoddler for the first time
He was transfixed
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:38 PM
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35. oh it's really fun for kids
and the abominable is so scary... :scared:

my son was non-plussed by the monster, he's more scared of Dr. Who baddies.



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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:37 PM
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34. After reading that hypothesis about Hermey's sexual orientation
I can't watch that with a straight face.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:48 PM
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37. Well was there ever any doubt?
I mean really........ :P
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:55 PM
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38. Well, I can see it now....
Edited on Thu Dec-01-05 03:30 PM by Loonman
...but when I was a little welp, he just seemed like an elf dentist with a flash haircut and extremely good manners. Maybe jollier than some of the elves, and the only one with initiative to help save Santa and the misfit toys and all sorts of other humanitarian(puppetarian?) qualities.

That being said, notice how the elves in "The Year There Was No Santa Claus" bickered like an old married couple?
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 09:11 PM
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41. You mean Jingle Bells and Jangle Bells?
The two elves with the same last name who definitely did not look like blood relatives? I guess the North Pole is more progressive than we thought if they had gay elf marriages in the early 70's.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 03:00 PM
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39. But why a dentist then?
Being the early 60's, you would have thought they would go for the stereotype, like an interior decorator, or fashion designer.

Oh my GOD, Santa! You really need some Feng Sui in this workshop, girl!
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