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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:46 PM
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Movie Discussion - The House of Sand and Fog
just saw it last night....

emotionally shattering...

Anyone else see it?

First it highlights how depression can just wreak havoc in your life and what we should all do to be alert to it in our friends and family's lives....so many "what ifs"

Ben Kingsley was great as the colonel....he wanted a better life for his wife and especially his son...but his taking advantage of someone else's misfortune ended up being the greatest tragedy...

Every character was tragic...especially the young son...

I cried and cried at the end....it was hard to go to sleep.

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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:49 PM
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1. Not one to watch if you're feeling like ending it all
Tough film. Even the magnificent Jennifer Connelly barely lifted my spirits.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:50 PM
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2. Ah, yes. The House of Misery and Depression.
I honestly think that is one of the most spiritually murderous movies ever made. Kingsley's emotion at the end transcends acting.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:58 PM
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5. his reaction to his son's death....you could see the life drain from the
character he played...

The movie jarred many emotions from me....pity for Kathy's depression but also anger with her and her family for not helping her....hell for 8 months she was in the depths of depression and no one bothered to come up and check on her? then I was angry with her (which I know is wrong)...for not getting help...

Kingsley was great..and his character had both sympathetic as well as unsympathetic aspects....he did a great job...
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:51 PM
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3. i really liked it, it was tough to watch but it was very good
i loved the actress that played his wife.
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:57 PM
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4. She was fantastic
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:59 PM
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7. do you think she knew....that her son was dead?
I think she didn't...but my husband thought that yes she did....

she was a great actress...
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:01 PM
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9. i think she did know.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:59 PM
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6. The book made me want to kill myself. Movie didn't match it.
The character in the book comes from the my home town's neighbor, so I sort of got where she was coming from.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:00 PM
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8. so the movie and the book are not alike at all?
I haven't read it....but if it is a good book I would like to read it...in spite of it's sad story...
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:03 PM
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10. They are very much alike, but the movie doesn't capture the
seething resentment of both the woman who loses her home and the cop her assists her. The ending is different also. More satisfying than the movie. Makes more sense.

It's a real good read. The author, who is from Newburyport Ma, does an excellent job developing his charactors. Especially the beliefs of the family who bought the house. Probably one of the better books I've read.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:05 PM
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11. I will definitely have to check it out...
the cop was the more pathetic character in the movie...he had it all...he had the home, the family and a job he seemed to like...but his "sense of justice" and his boredom with family were his undoing...

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:07 PM
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12. Yeah, the book gets more detailed into him.
He feeds on dysfunction and hate. Real selfish guy.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:11 PM
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13. he reminds me of one of my husband's family members...
in that he seemed to want to play the role of rescuer...the kind of fellow who needs to be the hero....

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:13 PM
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14. Control freak, in a nice way. The most dangerous kind.
Read White Oleander, also. That book surprised the hell out of me. Movie sucked.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:15 PM
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15. I have added both to my reading list and will visit the library
to pick em up...
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:24 PM
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16. A superb movie that I will never watch again
I don't mind unhappy endings, but frankly the video should come with a razor to slit your own throat.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:32 PM
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17. Sexy Beast was even more....I can't find the word for that movie
Edited on Thu Dec-01-05 01:32 PM by graywarrior
Another amazingly twisted story was Transister Radio. I did not see the ending coming. It fucked up my head for months.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:35 PM
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19. I loved Sexy Beast
Edited on Thu Dec-01-05 01:35 PM by Hardhead
All the actors were going on (in the extras) about working with Ben Kingsley, but Ian McShane was fabulous as Teddy Bass. Kingsley was good, but I mean, c'mon, he chewed the scenery a bit and everyone acted like he was the second coming of Olivier. He was much more impressive in House of Sand & Fog.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:36 PM
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20. that was an excellent movie!! Kinglsey was so damn good in that role.
i didn't see the end coming on that one either. the whole underwater vault robbing thing was great.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:35 PM
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18. A good but sad movie!
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:39 PM
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21. The book broke my heart. It stayed with me for days.
Never could bring myself to see the movie, too. Perhaps someday....

You must have a tender heart, like me. Your username is appropriate. :hug:
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:43 PM
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22. One of my top 5 most hated movies
I couldn't stand it. I hated the book too. My wife had me read it and I hated it so much I blotted it out of my mind. When we went to the theater I didn't even realize what I was going to. In the first 5 minutes I realized how much pain I would be in for. I tried desperately to fall asleep but just couldn't. I didn't care about a single person in the story
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:45 PM
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24. So, what you are saying is that you didn't care for it?
:P
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:48 PM
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25. I was trapped in the middle of a full row
I couldn't escape without gnawing my leg off.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:44 PM
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23. Anyone here read
Lamb, The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal. Hilarious.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:50 PM
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26. I read the book and saw the movie
The movie is done very well, as the book is certainly as depressing.

The performances are first-rate.

It's a disturbing story.
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mattomjoe Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:53 PM
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27. Never seen it, and based on posts here, probably won't
From what I'm hearing, I don't know if there is ever the proper mood to be in to sit down and watch it.
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