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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:43 AM
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How About Your Favorite Gangster/Mob Movies?
I have 5. 2 are standards, 2 are OBSCURE, and 1 has a devoted cult following of which I am a member.
Here they are.

The Godfather. Surprise!

Goodfellas. Surprise again!

Miller's Crossing. The Coen brothers cult film about the Irish mob in an un-named city. The Machine gun fight between Albert Finney and some gunsels while "Danny Boy" plays in the background is the highlight for me, but the whole movie is great.

The obscure ones are;

The Brotherhood. Kirk Douglas (don't laugh) is a mob boss who kills the wrong person and his brother has to kill HIM or the whole family will be wiped out.

The Long Good Friday. Bob Hoskins is a London mob boss who gets on the IRA's shit list through the actions of his underlings and his world falls apart. Helen Mirren is great as his girlfriend and you'll miss a very young Pierce Brosnan if you link close to the end of the movie. FANTASTIC music, too!

How about yours?
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:45 AM
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1. Stander
Absolutely great gangster movie that's the true story of a South African cop turned bank robber
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:00 AM
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16. Sounds Good,...
...I'll have to check it out!
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MsAnthropy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:46 AM
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2. White Heat
Anything with Cagney in it
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:59 AM
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14. I'm Sorry In Advance, but...
..."Top of the World, Ma!"
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:47 AM
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3. Goodfellas or Casino
Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 10:47 AM by LSK
Joe Pesci is the ultimate gangster actor.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:58 AM
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13. Casino!
For me, it's a very under-rated movie.

As crazy as Pesci's charabter is, I'm most scared when the cheater is confronted by DeNiro. Perfect underplaying!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:39 AM
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38. Yes, I think it's superior to "Goodfellas".
And that's saying a lot, because Goodfellas is a great film.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:49 PM
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45. Sharon Stone...
...giving the performance of her career!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:37 AM
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58. I agree!
She was amazing in that. It just goes to show what a great "actors' director" Scorsese is.

"I AM CALM!!"
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:59 AM
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60. I saw "Casino" just before I moved to Vegas. According to people I know
here who've worked on The Strip since the '60s and '70s, it's basically very true to the true story of "Tony the Ant" Spilotro (Joe Pesci's character, who actually looked a lot like Pacino) and Lefty Rosenthal (De Niro's character, who ran the Stardust and a few other casinos and was apparently quite a character). Tony the Ant and his brother did end up beaten to death and buried in a cornfield. One of my friends left Tony Roma's just a few minutes before Rosenthal left and survived (miraculously) the car-bombing of his Cadillac. Oscar Goodman, who appeared as himself in the movie, was lawyer to both Rosenthal and Spilotro and is now Mayor of Las Vegas...yep, we got a Mafia lawyer in charge here.

Some of these old-time Vegas people have some amazing stories to tell, and most concur that Vegas was a better place for casino employees and for guests before the IRS drove the Mafia out of town (or underground) and the corporations took over. At least they knew the rules, and if you stayed within those rules you were okay -- both employee and guest got treated betetr than is the case now, with the new corporate face of Las Vegas dominating.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:19 AM
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66. My father thought that Vegas was ruined...
...when the mob was tossed out!
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:50 AM
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4. I go back & forth, I just know it isn't anything Guy Richie or Richie-ish
That stuff is just the most overrated waste of time.

What I do know is I can't fucking wait for Scorsese's next movie "The Departed". If only DiCaprio wasn't in it I think it would be perfect, on paper anyway.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:57 AM
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10. What Did Guy Richie Do?
I'm not as familiar with directors as I used to be!
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:03 AM
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18. I actually mispelled it, it's Guy Ritchie, and he's the whole British gang
ster guy.

He directed:

Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
Snatch.
Revolver


and his producer on all of his films Matthew Vaughn directed:

Layer Cake

- which is just more of the same
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:05 AM
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21. I Was Never Interested...
...in any of those.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:02 AM
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69. I hate mob movies, except for Guy Ritchie stuff.
I don't know why. They all seem so ridiculously pretentious and gratuitous that I can't get into them. Ritchie's stuff is so silly it's almost a spoof of itself, so I can laugh at it and be so pissed off.

I've never even watched Miller's Crossing, even though the Cohens are my favorite movie makers. Just can't get interested.

I'll except Godfather I and II, but that wasn't just a mob movie. That was a work of art ranked up with Hamlet.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:50 AM
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5. Angels with Dirty Faces
Cagney, Pat O'Brien, Bogart, Ann Sheridan and the East Side Kids (who later became the Bowery Boys). Cagney is HOT in this one!:loveya:
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:56 AM
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9. Jimmy Cagney!
Isn't this the one where he panics before going to the electric chair because Fr. Pat O'Brien asks him to?
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:34 PM
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50. Yep and no one would tell if he really panicked
Or if it was so that the kids would think he was "yella" and wouldn't see him as a hero.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:38 PM
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53. The Uncertainty...
...was what made it a great moment!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:51 AM
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6. Donnie Brasco
True story that is still reaping benefits 25 years later than the events in the film. FBI agent Joe Pistone went undercover as jewel thief "Donnie Brasco." He eventually worked his way up in the Bonano family and fed the FBI a lot of basic info about mob family structure and organization.

Stars Johnny Depp as Pistone/Brasco and Al Pacino as a mob guy down on his luck who sponsors Pistone.

Features the hilarious "fuggeddabouddit" sequence. :-)
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:54 AM
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7. I Only Saw Bits and Pieces.
I want to see it all one day.

The scene where Al Pacino is leaving his home knowing that he's going to be killed is rather touching.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:58 AM
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12. Al Pacino is so good in this movie
He's so understated, believe it or not. And it's fun to watch the two of them interact.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:06 AM
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22. Pacino and Anybody!
I think that Johnny Depp is an under-rated actor.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:40 AM
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39. I know. And even though he had done some horrific things, you
feel sorry for him as he goes to die. That is the thing with mob movies, you have some sympathy for these cold blooded killers. Like the Sopranos for instance. I don't want to see Tony die or go to jail in the final season, but that would be fair and justified if he did!! And that is what he most certainly deserves.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:31 PM
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47. I Think it drives law enforcement crazy...
...with the facination over gangster movies.

Great actors make bad people seem sympathetic.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:19 PM
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44. That scene is an example of Pacino at his best...
while many people think of him as the vein-popping, arm waving, shouting hothead, I always think that he shows his true brilliance in scenes where he says nothing, but conveys a wealth of emotion in small gestures.
There is a beautiful moment in the otherwise wretched Godfather III, where he leans closer to his ex-wife with an old familiarity, realizes what he is doing, and withdraws. It is heartbreaking.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:33 PM
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48. He does do subtlety very well!
BTW, We're forgetting "Heat" with he, DeNiro and Val Kilmer!
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:55 AM
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8. All of the classic ones.
Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 10:56 AM by Shell Beau
Goodfellas
Casino
The Godfather (all of them)
Scarface
Donnie Brasco
A Bronx Tale
Road to Perdition
The Untouchables
Bugsey
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:02 AM
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17. Yes, All Good.
I forgot "A Bronx Tale"!
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:55 PM
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46. those aren't classic ones
Public Enemy, White Heat and Little Caesar

those are classic ones
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:34 PM
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49. I Ain't So Tough!
Mother of Mercy! Is this the end of Rico?
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:26 AM
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59. A lot of people would disagree that the Godfather's aren't classic.
And these are the classic ones to me!
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:57 AM
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11. The uncut/unedited version of Once Upon a Time in America
It was excellent before it was butchered for American theaters, I believe the currently available DVD has the original uncut version.

Obviously the Godfather 1 and 2.

Donnie Brasco (LOVED Pacino in this).

Casino.

Goodfellas (of course).
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:03 AM
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19. Another Goodie!
I miss Elizabeth McGovern. What ever happened to her?
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:26 AM
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32. That's my favorite
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:00 AM
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15. The Krays
Another Lonely Hitman

Onibi: The Fire Within
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:04 AM
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20. I've Heard of "The Krays",...
...but not the other 2.

I love obscure movies!
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:09 AM
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23. The other two are great gangster films by
Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 11:12 AM by BigMcLargehuge
Rochiro Mochizuki. Mochizuki started his career in the "pink cinema" industry, i.e. porn. He has an amazing eye for capturing the subtle beauty of his characters, almost a softness. The writing is top notch too.

Another Lonely Hitman review -
http://www.horrorview.com/Another%20Lonely%20Hitman.htm

Onibi review-
http://www.horrorview.com/Onibi.htm

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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:22 AM
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29. Thanx!
Pink Camera. Interesting.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:24 AM
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31. if you do watch them, I'd love to know how you felt about each title
:hi:
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:40 AM
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40. Hey, get this...
My dad worked for the Krays :scared: .
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:36 PM
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51. Holy Moses!
Doing what?

BTW, given that, if I've ever offended you, I'm very sorry! :hurts:
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:35 AM
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57. Collecting.
But that was before he had a family and an air of respectability (such as it was). One of the reasons my mom moved us (her and I) to Canada when they split-up is because he had an outstanding bench warrant here, and would be arrested on sight if he ever set foot in the country.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:10 AM
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24. Wiseguys
and does Sopranos count?
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:19 AM
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27. Why Not?
Even though it's a TV show.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:10 AM
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25. Goodfellas, hands down
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:21 AM
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28. What do you mean I'm Funny?
Like I'm a clown?
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:19 AM
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26. You must mean both 70's Godfather movies
well, I think you do. Lee Strasberg's scene where he just about accuses Michael of whacking Moe Greene is awesome.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:23 AM
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30. Part 2 was very good,...
...but I like the first more.
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:26 AM
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33. Fair enough
nm
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:37 AM
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36. I'm glad you say that!
Now I don't have to ask, "Why do you treat me with such disrespect?" :hi:
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:41 AM
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41. and I don't have to tell you...
"Now go get your fuckin' shinebox."

I know, different movie, but it is in the spirit of the thread.



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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:37 PM
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52. All For a Good Cause!
:hi:
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:27 AM
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34. Scarface, original and remake...
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:36 AM
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35. I Was F***in Wondering...
...if you were F***in' talking about the F***in' remake ot F***in' not! :hi:
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:38 AM
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37. I don't think they allowed the F word in the 1930's!
Probably couldn't even say it in the stag reels...
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:40 PM
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54. If I Didn't Know Better...
...I'd say that back then they didn't know what it was!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:44 AM
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42. Reservior Dogs, Lavender Hill Mob, Gangster #1, Snatch, Casino
Also a foreign film I saw a few years ago. I think it might have been Danish, but I forget the title. Very bleak and depressing. The lead character is indebted to the Mob, and has to get some money together in a fixed period of time. He's kind of a prick, and at some point in the movie he ends up with this streetwalker as a sidekick. In the end, she steals all the money he's raised, moments before the deadline, and the final scene of the movie is the mobsters laying our rolls of plastic sheeting in the guy's kitchen... :scared: .

I wish I could remember it; I'd like to see it again.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:41 PM
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55. I Never Heard Of It,...
...but it sounds good!
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:00 PM
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43. Big fan of "The Long Good Friday"
saw it when it first came out, making Hoskins a star.

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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:44 PM
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56. A Funny Thing Is...
...that when I saw it in the theatre I didn't like it. I remember saying that the music and Helen Mirren's performance were the only good things about it.

About a year later, my father and step-mother wanted to see it on cable and the second time around I loved it!
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Ron Mexico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:00 AM
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61. State of Grace (n/t)
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:03 AM
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62. Wise Guys.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092226

With Joe Piscopo and Danny DeVito. Hilarious 80's comedy.
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dback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:08 PM
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63. "Married to theMob"
I don't care much for gangster/mob movies--there's something about the relentless violence, the machismo, etc. that I find disturbing and annoying. But "MTTM" is a black-comedy classic, with Alec Baldwin, Mercedes Ruhl, Oscar-nominated Dean Stockwell, Matthew Modine, and the glorious Michelle Pfeiffer (who looks edible with a brunette color and perm).

Immortal line: "Everything we own fell offa truck!"
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:12 PM
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64. There are the first two Godfather movies and everything else
There are a lot of other good ones - from the old Little Caesar to the newer Goodfellas. But, none of them compare to the first two Godfather movies. Every gangster movie and book since has been influenced by those movies, and will continue to be influence by them for the next 100 years.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:04 AM
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70. I said above, Godfather I & II are works of art, not just mob movies
Comparing them to the rest is like calling Hamlet a swashbuckling play.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:26 PM
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65. "Say hello to my little friend!"



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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:38 AM
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67. Here we go.
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 01:40 AM by Lone_Wolf_Moderate
The Godfather, Parts I and II
Scarface
Goodfellas
Carlito's Way
A Bronx Tale
King of New York
Heat
True Romance
Reservoir Dogs
Pulp Fiction
New Jack City
Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels
Sugar Hill
Road to Perdition
Casino
Sin City
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:41 AM
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68. I definately gotta go with Scarface on this one. Then the Godfather.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:20 AM
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71. Godfather II.
Honorable mentions to Godfather I, Goodfellas, Donnie Brasco and Blood Simple.
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Dees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 08:01 AM
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72. A Bronx Tale...
Lillo Brancato and De Niro. Brancato, you're in a whole lot of trouble now boy.
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